Speculation: 2024-2025 General Lightning Discussion II: Oh no! We dont suck again!

[These Are The Days]

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[T REX]

Anyone know our record after 5 or more days off?

I feel like it's pretty bad... any ideas?

 

[Sky04]

Anyone know our record after 5 or more days off?

I feel like it's pretty bad... any ideas?

Terrible, just like all the other tropes around here. Bad on afternoon games, bad on back 2 backs, bad after 2 days off, bad coming off spring break, bad every 2nd week of January, bad everyday that ends in y.

 

[Rschmitz]

I don't know what any of this means but for me it's simple. When what you are doing isn't working change the things that are easiest to change first. Coop isn't going to be here for the coming rebuild anyway and the team is stuck in neutral and has been for years. Take a shot on a new voice and some different energy. What does the team have to lose?

You think changing the coach is the easiest change, and that the team has nothing to lose in doing so?


Please explain this nonsense

 

[Felonious Python]

Anyone know our record after 5 or more days off?

I feel like it's pretty bad... any ideas?

Oh, we're absolutely going to get smoked.

 

[Peacefool]

We recalled Gage,that means Point still out that means we gonna struggle that means we gon lose. Go Bolts!
Honestly hopefully they just recalled him to have 13 healthy players at roster

 

[DFC]

I'm gonna guess being down our 1C and biggest play driver has something to do with the recent struggles. Just a guess.

 

[barriers]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1856737869680800147

 

[Sky04]

You think changing the coach is the easiest change, and that the team has nothing to lose in doing so?


Please explain this nonsense

I think there are plenty of examples of a coaching change turning a season around.

 

[Rschmitz]

I think there are plenty of examples of a coaching change turning a season around.

We have different definitions for easy. A new coach changing structures and wanting to hand pick his players doesn't sound like an easy change to me.

We also aren't 0-15, we don't need to turn the season around.

 

[T REX]

Terrible, just like all the other tropes around here. Bad on afternoon games, bad on back 2 backs, bad after 2 days off, bad coming off spring break, bad every 2nd week of January, bad everyday that ends in y.

Honestly, I was asking bc it feels like we struggle after long layoffs under Coop.

But as my avatar says...I'll eat it anytime.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1856737869680800147

"I have a great idea, lets try what hasn't worked in the last few games!"

Guentzel - Paul - Kuch
Hagel - Cirelli - Chaffee
Goncalves - Geekie - Essyimont
Girgensons - Glendenning - Atkinson

This can't be worse than what we've seen in the last 2/3 games.

 

[JFleegs]

Cooper being very short about Points status is not a good sign.

 

[The Gongshow]

Anyone know our record after 5 or more days off?

I feel like it's pretty bad... any ideas?

0 - 320

I think there are plenty of examples of a coaching change turning a season around.

Look at Pittsburgh. We're struggling, changed their coach and won b2b cups! It can definet inject new life into a stagnant team. It's been shown before

 

[OffBy1]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1856737869680800147

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

 

[JTBF81]

If Point is still out it's hard to see them beating anyone good. The lack of any information or even rough timeline on his projected time missed is also a joke. If it's just another few games, fine, but if it's going to be several weeks or a couple months, the team is in serious trouble if they don't make some moves.

 

[Tampa22]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1856737869680800147

Atkinson doing the same line moves of Sheary last season! Not a good signal for him...

 

[Lightning1995]

Seems pretty clear this team is screwed without Pointer or Kuch. I’d even suggest both are more important than Vassy at this Point.

I really hate the lack of information on injuries. Atleast he’s not on LTIR? He’s already missed 3-4 games so hopefully that means no more than another week or so.

 

[EmptyNetAssassin]

I'm gonna guess being down our 1C and biggest play driver has something to do with the recent struggles. Just a guess.

Well we know Cirelli isnt a number one or two. So we have a A+ 3rd line center below average 2nd line center playing top line center.

 

[JTBF81]

Cirelli has been a good 2C so far this season, and him and Paul are fine as the 2C-3C set up. Neither is a 1C though, and when a team loses a player of Point's caliber, the team is going to struggle.

 

[Soul Assumption]

You think changing the coach is the easiest change

Yes, it's obviously easier to change the coach than to constantly change players and hope that this player will be able to over-perform (or at least not under-perform) under Cooper.

and that the team has nothing to lose in doing so?

It's a wildcard team for a while now. It's hard to believe that things will get worse under the new coach. Anyway this team has little time left, you can't trust Cooper forever just because he won cups in the past.

 

[JTBF81]

Tampa's been a wild card team once in the last few seasons, and it's far too early to say whether that's going to be the case this year. I doubt changing from Cooper to some (likely) relatively unknown coach with far less success at the NHL level is going to result in some b2b Cup success like Sullivan in Pittsburgh. The assistants will get overhauled more than likely if Tampa fails to get out of the 1st round or worse, but Cooper isn't going to face any serious pressure until next season at the earliest imo.

 

[Sky04]

Took Sheary 5 games to outscore Groshev on the season already

 

[Peacefool]

Took Sheary 5 games to outscore Groshev on the season already

At which lines did Groshev and Sheary played at Syr?
But I dont know who is expecting that Groshev will score much,or is a scoring player,he is and always was 3ed 4th line player,his playstyle is so,winning board battles take puck deep etc. He is more like Killorn,Goodrow,but not Palat or Hagel,and he would be much usefull as 3rd 4th line player as Bolt than Sheary,and I think he wont be worse than Goncalves as Bolt.

 

[Hoek]

Who's out there to switch to coaching wise? Do we just promote from Syracuse again?