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Speculation: 2024-2025 General Lightning Discussion II: New year, same Cooper shell

LordStanlersCup said:
Dumba's ATOI was 20:04, just because they are getting a lot of TOI doesn't mean they are good. Both Raddysh and Perbix have an equal or better ppg than Provorov playing in a 3rd pair role right now. Provorov is probably marginally better than Dumba, should maybe get a 3rd/4th rd pick but nowhere near a 1st.
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I'm sorry, but expecting a top 4D to be worth 3rd/4th is bizarre to say the least. I remind you that we paid 1st for Savard.
 
LordStanlersCup said:
Dumba's ATOI was 20:04, just because they are getting a lot of TOI doesn't mean they are good. Both Raddysh and Perbix have an equal or better ppg than Provorov playing in a 3rd pair role right now. Provorov is probably marginally better than Dumba, should maybe get a 3rd/4th rd pick but nowhere near a 1st.


Marchenko is one of my favorite players in the league he is so underrated
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Yes it surprises to me how he went unseen by Russian hockey media and now at NHL, dude plays really well scoring a lot of goals for Columbus, having good heght hands shot hockey IQ, I agree very underrated
 
I remember hearing we were "rumored" to be in on Provorov last TDL and it makes as little sense then as it does now. I'd be pretty shocked if we trade for a defensemen at all, but if we do target one (or sign one in the off-season) I would much prefer someone like Gavrikov who can allow us to not run 35 year old McDonagh into the ground over a purely offensive focused defensemen like Provorov.
 
Rschmitz said:
LD is definitely not an area of need, a long term answer at top 6 RW is the biggest move we can make. A top line LW that could push Guentzel down to #2 RW also accomplishes this IMO. Preferably our top 6 guy can shoot right as well, and we could use some size.
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Kreider?
 
Can we stop talking about Kreider already, just look at his damn contract. It’s not gonna happen.

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Combo deal with Anaheim for Dumolin and Vatrano? Dumolin provides a very solid 3rd pairing defender who can play up in case of injury and has considerable playoff experience. Vatrano can slide in on the 2nd or 3rd line as needed and adds additional scoring and versatility for an improved top 9. Neither Kreider nor Tuch is realistic at all, whether it's cap, acquisition cost, or simply not being g available most likely.

As long as Tampa can get retention on Vatrano, I think it could work. I do think Lilleberg is improving, but adding an additional 4-6 type dman to the group of Lilleberg, Perbix and Raddysb wouldn't be a bad thing for the playoffs imo. Vatrano is more needed and will cost, but as long as Tampa is planning on extending him, paying the price is likely justifiable.
 


Team is also second in the league with +40 goal differential. Only trail the Jets with +46 and we have 4 games in hand on them.

Team is 8-2 in their last 10 and and holds multiple games in hand over every team in the division.

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The team also seems to be flying under the radar imo.

I'd say things are going pretty well.
 

He's apparently been a quite good bottom6 forwards this season.



Would like for us to pick him up.
 
Zwui21 said:

He's apparently been a quite good bottom6 forwards this season.



Would like for us to pick him up.
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If he can't make it on a Penguins team that is perhaps the most desperate in the league to somehow remain relevant, he ain't making it here. Chaffee is already better in half a season than JP has in years
 
Is he better than Gonclaves as our 12th forward?

We could also waive Atkinson if we wanted him as a 13th forward. Obviously an enigma and we have been linked to him subtly in the past, haven’t seen him play much to have an opinion.
 
Rschmitz said:
Is he better than Gonclaves as our 12th forward?

We could also waive Atkinson if we wanted him as a 13th forward. Obviously an enigma and we have been linked to him subtly in the past, haven’t seen him play much to have an opinion.
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Honestly I'd rather see if either guy can turn it around. We all know Jesse is getting waived by us at like the end of February. It was never his hip issues. He needs to just go back to Finland and live his best life and make the most money he can
 
Last time I got a good look at him he was in Edmonton, he had two elite snipes one game that made you see why he was a top draft pick. I’m still intrigued all these years later but I don’t think we have room for projects. Size, speed, shot, no risk, I’m not going to hate it if we pick him up, he’s developed a decent enough two way game to play on the bottom two lines
 
Rschmitz said:
Last time I got a good look at him he was in Edmonton, he had two elite snipes one game that made you see why he was a top draft pick. I’m still intrigued all these years later but I don’t think we have room for projects. Size, speed, shot, no risk, I’m not going to hate it if we pick him up, he’s developed a decent enough two way game to play on the bottom two lines
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I mean... we do have an open slot that's kind of perfect for that. Or at least a competition.
 
So what does Pulju actually do besides licking his own nostrils?
 
Why'd Poolparty get waived if he was so effective? Why didn't Sullivan utilize him?
 
I think the expectation, if we were to take him on, should be that he doesn't work out. Given that he hasn't worked out elsewhere, on teams that need guys to step up. It's just so low risk that it might be worth a shot to see how he compares to the guys we have in that role now.
 
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