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Speculation: 2024-2025 General Lightning Discussion II: "Atlanticly" challenged



Big news, honestly lower than what I was expecting and was wondering whether it would be smoothed out over 2 or 3 years and they chose 3. I am guessing teams not being able to pay that much had a lot to do with it.
 
DFC said:
We also heard that about Shattenkirk, McDonagh, Duclair, and probably 9 other guys.

If the contract is small enough, it doesn't matter. It's a stab, and has no impact on other moves.
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The word on those guys were they had warts, not that they were AHL players. Regardless you're right, it's not like it's going to stop us from doing anything else.
 
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LordStanlersCup said:


Big news, honestly lower than what I was expecting and was wondering whether it would be smoothed out over 2 or 3 years and they chose 3. I am guessing teams not being able to pay that much had a lot to do with it.
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Its lower and more smoothed out because the volatility of the Canadian Dollar. Its in the shitters more than usual and its going to take a hit due to Trump's tariffs. This smoother curve and slightly lower number than expected is probably due to that.
 
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LordStanlersCup said:


Big news, honestly lower than what I was expecting and was wondering whether it would be smoothed out over 2 or 3 years and they chose 3. I am guessing teams not being able to pay that much had a lot to do with it.
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“We know the players don’t want escrow to the extent they can have it reduced,” Bettman said. “So the higher you make the cap, the more likely you’ll have an escrow. If you nail it just right — which is hard to do with precision because you’re projecting revenues — ideally you find a place where the escrow is as little as possible and/or the clubs aren’t writing a check to make up the 50/50 (split). It’s a little science, but it’s a lot of work.”
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Larger cap jumps makes hitting that 50/50 mark tougher.
 
I have to admit I have slightly warmed up to the idea of Saad since I trashed it at first. It says something about his mindset and motivation to leave 5 mil on the table. That is probably a good sign for any team who picks him up.

More importantly, it narrows down the type of player we'd actually have to deal significant assets for. For league minimum to 1 mil-ish, consider me somewhat on board.
 
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Yeah, we are definitely signing/trading for some top6 wing with the cap increasing so much.
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I'd honestly let this season circle the shitter and miss the playoffs entirely or just get bounced round 1 than chase after the wrong players who aren't gonna help us when the cap goes up

That cap space is the greatest weapon and opportunity we have had in years
 
Goddamn that's a lot of money. I truly believe this puts Stamkos at 50% back on the menu as soon as this offseason. We go after another right handed top 6 forward and get Howard and Duke into the lineup by the end of next season


Or maybe Stamkos really is gone for good
 
These Are The Days said:
It depends on your definition of "small contract"
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The Atkinson contract is small. I don't think anyone wants to pay this guy 4m.

Rschmitz said:
The word on those guys were they had warts, not that they were AHL players. Regardless you're right, it's not like it's going to stop us from doing anything else.
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Shattenkirk was 100% called not an NHLer anymore. And quite often. He was also coming off a buy out.
 
DFC said:
The Atkinson contract is small. I don't think anyone wants to pay this guy 4m.


Shattenkirk was 100% called not an NHLer anymore. And quite often. He was also coming off a buy out.
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Well that's better for me. If we're doing an Atkinson style contract then absolutely. I am not exactly chomping at the bit to pay someone like $3 million for a "prove it" deal. Saad walked away from some decent change and may try to recoup at least most of the $4.5 million he WAS making

If it's like 900k it's no big loss if it doesn't work out. I just dont want us doing more than that if Blues fans are saying he fell off a cliff. He's looking for work elsewhere and I figured there's some sort of truth to it at least
 
creg said:
We'll have just shy of $13mil with our only pending free agents being Atkinson, Glendening, Eyssimont, Goncalves (rfa), and Perbix.

This is going to be a huge off-season for us.
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Does this mean our bottom six won’t be horrible any more ?

Flat Ronnie said:
Tampa is just not "the place to be" like they were a few years ago.
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Saad don’t want any part of the lightning were a 1st round and done team
 
Todd1a said:
Does this mean our bottom six won’t be horrible any more ?


Saad don’t want any part of the lightning were a 1st round and done team
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I mean, the other side is players will be more expensive. So 13m is still a good chunk, but it's not two superstars anymore.
 
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Yup. Sure enough. We got used for a better contract. We probably made an offer, the agent leaked it and the VGK signed. These insiders need to just stop trying to report on us until we have finally finished whatever we are doing
 
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