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Hockeyville USA

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Except Cirelli, Hagel, Geekie, Paul and Hedman have also been much more good than bad. The McD-Cernak pairing has had some early struggles, and the injuries to Cernak haven't helped, but they should only get better as they get more games together. The 3rd defensive pairing likely needs an add or the defensive pairings need to be blended, and a middle 6 F needs to be added. The team isn't winning or losing because of the 4th line's struggles offensively, so if they can add one RW to provide 3 solid lines, they should be fine there.
You're way too optimistic. All of them would have been more good than bad until this 4 game skid. And it's a costly skid.

McDonagh and Hedman are showing age, no way around the truth of it, sorry. Hagel and Cirelli have looked worse since the Point injury because the lines are f***ed & Cooper doesn't know what he's doing at the moment.
 

Stelio Kontos

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Random question but Did we have the most brain dead bottom 6 in nhl history last year with Watson Sheary and Jeannot? Good god man
 

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You're way too optimistic. All of them would have been more good than bad until this 4 game skid. And it's a costly skid.

McDonagh and Hedman are showing age, no way around the truth of it, sorry. Hagel and Cirelli have looked worse since the Point injury because the lines are f***ed & Cooper doesn't know what he's doing at the moment.
And you're extremely doom and gloom, sky is falling pessimistic over a bad 4 games.
 
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Tampa22

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Random question but Did we have the most brain dead bottom 6 in nhl history last year with Watson Sheary and Jeannot? Good god man
Never like Sheary, but you can use Jeannot and Watson and I'm pretty sure they have more points last season than the actual 4th line plus bring more entertaining hitting than watching Atkinson and the Latvian doing nothing...
 

FinnLightning26

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Never like Sheary, but you can use Jeannot and Watson and I'm pretty sure they have more points last season than the actual 4th line plus bring more entertaining hitting than watching Atkinson and the Latvian doing nothing...
I get wanting tougher guys for the fourth line but Watson and Jeannot weren't tipping the scales. When we had the school bus line, they had a clear identity and were fun to watch. Last year, and even more this year, the fourth line has no identity. They don't do any particular thing that well. Glendening and Atkinson are cooked and Girgensons is just a guy. You can even stretch it to our whole bottom six. It's just a collection of guys who get on the ice and get off the ice and pretty much nothing happens in between. Sadly, that's pretty much all you can expect when they're all making under a million and you rarely get quality guys for under a million unless they're a young guy and we don't have those either.
 
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I get wanting tougher guys for the fourth line but Watson and Jeannot weren't tipping the scales. When we had the school bus line, they had a clear identity and were fun to watch. Last year, and even more this year, the fourth line has no identity. They don't do any particular thing that well. Glendening and Atkinson are cooked and Girgensons is just a guy. You can even stretch it to our whole bottom six. It's just a collection of guys who get on the ice and get off the ice and pretty much nothing happens in between. Sadly, that's pretty much all you can expect when they're all making under a million and you rarely get quality guys for under a million unless they're a young guy and we don't have those either.
Of course you are right, money is the main problem but comparing last year line with the actual line was like water and oil. If you can choose, of course school bus line was a better option, anyway the problem clearly is not only the 4th line and that line is not in the NHL to score goals, but my point is instead of having just players to skate and playing few seconds shifts to do nothing, bring some tough guys to at least have some emotion to the game, can't understand pay a ticket to watch mediocrity.
 

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