Speculation: 2024-2025 General Discussion III

[DistantThunderRep]

You guys should really just listen to what he said before getting excited about this.

It was just him speculating about a hypothetical situation about WOULD Carolina actually trade him after already trading for him. Then he casually throws the Lightnings name in the mix with a bunch of good teams he would ASSUME would be interested. Including: Dallas, Vegas, Winnipeg, Toronto etc.

It was nothing more than that.

BUT RANTANEN AND MCDAVID TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING 2025 and 2026!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Rschmitz]

You guys should really just listen to what he said before getting excited about this.

It was just him speculating about a hypothetical situation about WOULD Carolina actually trade him after already trading for him. Then he casually throws the Lightnings name in the mix with a bunch of good teams he would ASSUME would be interested. Including: Dallas, Vegas, Winnipeg, Toronto etc.

It was nothing more than that.

You’re no fun

 

[bov]

I do think TB would push hard for Rantanen if available, but Carolina is also a contender so a package of mostly futures wouldn't do the trick unless there was some other plan with a 3rd team. I don't see Cirelli or Hagel being traded mid-season, especially for a guy who could hit UFA. It would have to be a trade where TB empties the cupboard.

 

[LTIR Trickery]

Why would you trade Hagel to make space for Rantanen? Like whats the point

 

[creg]

Cirelli is not getting traded and there is not a chance in the world that Hagel is getting moved, JBB has already said like 3 times that going forward is about adding to the roster without subtracting

(not to mention the fact that it would be insane to move a young, amazing player locked up on a great contract to sign a free agent who literally left the contending team he was drafted from because he wanted more money)

 

[Rschmitz]

I had to triple check just to make sure that no one here was actually suggesting we trade Hagel for Rantanen. I wouldn’t trade Hagel straight up for anyone else in this league.

 

[Master P]

You guys should really just listen to what he said before getting excited about this.

It was just him speculating about a hypothetical situation about WOULD Carolina actually trade him after already trading for him. Then he casually throws the Lightnings name in the mix with a bunch of good teams he would ASSUME would be interested. Including: Dallas, Vegas, Winnipeg, Toronto etc.

It was nothing more than that.

Every party needs a pooper thats why they invited you. Party Pooper.... Party Pooper.

 

[Flat Ronnie]

I had to triple check just to make sure that no one here was actually suggesting we trade Hagel for Rantanen. I wouldn’t trade Hagel straight up for anyone else in this league.

Nobody in the league?

 

[JTBF81]

Yeah, Rantanen is a very unlikely acquisition. Unless it was 100% guaranteed that he was extending in Tampa, and at an aav that Tampa could actually afford and still make other improvements (which isn't happening given what he's likely going to want), Tampa should not trade the amount of quality assets it would take to get him. Even if he doesn't want to re-sign in Carolina, I don't see why a legit contender like Carolina moves him at the deadline after what they traded to acquire him. Unless some team just offers them an insane overpay for what could be a rental, they should just keep him as their own rental.

 

[Rschmitz]

Nobody in the league?

Quinn Hughes is the closest but still not close

 

[Rschmitz]

Yeah, Rantanen is a very unlikely acquisition. Unless it was 100% guaranteed that he was extending in Tampa, and at an aav that Tampa could actually afford and still make other improvements (which isn't happening given what he's likely going to want), Tampa should not trade the amount of quality assets it would take to get him. Even if he doesn't want to re-sign in Carolina, I don't see why a legit contender like Carolina moves him at the deadline after what they traded to acquire him. Unless some team just offers them an insane overpay for what could be a rental, they should just keep him as their own rental.

If we signed him in the off-season, would we really need to make any other improvements? Depending on how much stock you put in Geekie and Howard, looks on paper like the best lineup we’ve ever iced

 

[Major4Boarding]

My FIL was a business associate and close friend to one of the other minority owners in the OK Hockey group.

There was no love lost for Barrie, who was trying to run the show despite not ponying up like the others. There were multiple cash calls and Barrie couldn’t or wouldn’t (IIRC his wealth was tied to the prospects of a real estate project in B.C.) muster his share of the funds.

They were all in over their heads, but Koules (who might have been going through a divorce at the time — some of the details escape me after so long) was trying to do right by the franchise and certainly put a lot of his own dough on the table.

Vinik, of course, was a godsend.

Accurate

 

[DFC]

Kind of makes sense. And falls in line with what we did last year with Guentzel. He's the right age and the right kind of player. Contract would put us back in handcuffed territory, but wow what a top six for a couple of years.

If we signed him in the off-season, would we really need to make any other improvements? Depending on how much stock you put in Geekie and Howard, looks on paper like the best lineup we’ve ever iced

I think it's our best top6, but it's still not close to our 2020 line up depth-wise, and in terms of two-way play.

But yeah the top six is a legit all star team.

 

[Master P]

 

[AlwaysSunnyInTampa]

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