2024-2025 Blues Trade Proposals Thread.

[Blanick]

After sitting on the end of the season and watching alot the content come out not only from our St. Louis media but other eliminated teams/podcast/youtube ect.

To me I think addressing our RHD depth is more important than upgrading 2C. I think the Blues are going to give Dvorsky every chance to make the team out of camp next year. If he shows he is not ready, Schenn has shown he is still serviceable in that role. This makes me think that if needed they can address this "issue" mid season.

I think the team Army should target is New Jersey. Their management has publicly announced their will be changes next year. They have a glut of RHD defenseman and RHD prospect ready to stick in the NHL. Hamilton, Pesce, Kovacevic, Nemec and Casey. With Nemec there was already some smoke of unhappiness, who knows if it's true or not, but where there is smoke their is usually fire. Some fans think that perhaps they will promote Nemec to full time duty next year and try and trade Hamilton. Obviously I would prefer to target Nemec, as he is younger but Army has also been seemingly interested in Hamilton in the past. I just feel like their is something here that could work out between the two teams.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

I’m with Morty. These guys need to get better at being centermen and being adequate on face offs. FFS

Dvo must be forced to develop himself as a center or he will be shipped out.

I know, hot take. Whatevs.

 

[Mike Liut]

I just hope one of Neighbours, Bolduc, or Snuggerud can break out into a 35 goal scorer by next year if we trade Kyrou.

We're already a pretty meh offensive team. Subtract Kyrou’s goals from last year's team and we would have the 3rd worst offense in the league. He was also tied for 5th in the league in 5v5 goals.

I’d be happy with 25g from all 3, and I think it’s very do-able all 3 do it.

 

[Blanick]

I’m with Morty. These guys need to get better at being centermen and being adequate on face offs. FFS

Dvo must be forced to develop himself as a center or he will be shipped out.

I know, hot take. Whatevs.

Blues are committed to developing Dvorsky as a center. Go look up Robert Thomas' faceoff percentage the first few years of his career. Very few kids come into the league good at faceoffs.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

I’d be happy with 25g from all 3, and I think it’s very do-able all 3 do it.

Getting only 25 goals from each of them still doesn't cover the loss of Kyrou unless Thomas learns he can shoot the puck (which I have completely given up on) and Buch returns to form from two years ago.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Blues are committed to developing Dvorsky as a center. Go look up Robert Thomas' faceoff percentage the first few years of his career. Very few kids come into the league good at faceoffs.

Understood. It’s just that I don’t want any pre-plan to put him on the wing if he fails. His future is as a NHL center. Fly or die.

 

[Mike Liut]

Getting only 25 goals from each of them still doesn't cover the loss of Kyrou unless Thomas learns he can shoot the puck (which I have completely given up on) and Buch returns to form from two years ago.

I get it, but I’d be very happy if all 3 score 25g next year.

 

[Mike Liut]

Faulk + 2025 1st for Nemec?

I personally view Faulk as having negative value… maybe I’m wrong

 

[MissouriMook]

Faulk + 2025 1st for Nemec?

I personally view Faulk as having negative value… maybe I’m wrong

They’re not going to want a RD back if they’re trading Nemec because they have too many RD. I would give our 1st and their pick of any LD in our system not named Broberg or Fowler.

 

[Mike Liut]

They’re not going to want a RD back if they’re trading Nemec because they have too many RD. I would give our 1st and their pick of any LD in our system not named Broberg or Fowler.

Lindstein?

 

[Linkens Mastery]

I get it, but I’d be very happy if all 3 score 25g next year.

My only point is we just made the playoffs and we are all excited that we are a playoff team again. Quickly moving out the guy who has lead the team in goals 3 years in a row, with 30-35 goal seasons and had actually shown multiple times he's willing to change his play to become a better more well rounded player (this year he lead the team in plus/minus, started making visible improvements defensively, in the forecheck, and the backcheck, and had multiple instances where he started to play more physicality) could end up being a move that is more detrimental than good especially when you are counting on rookie and sophomore players to replace him.

 

[TruBlueFan1970]

Getting only 25 goals from each of them still doesn't cover the loss of Kyrou unless Thomas learns he can shoot the puck (which I have completely given up on) and Buch returns to form from two years ago.

Better chance Buch continues to decline vs finding the fountain of youth. I’ll get flamed, but the time to trade him was the 23/24 deadline. That extension was a mistake. If Snuggs, Bolduc and Neighbours can all score 25 goals, Buch should be on the 3rd line with Dvorsky and ??
Jake-Thomas-Snuggerud
Holloway-Schenn-Kyrou
Buch-Dvorsky-Bolduc
Walker-??/Sunny-Toro

Lines assume no trades.

 

[Mike Liut]

My only point is we just made the playoffs and we are all excited that we are a playoff team again. Quickly moving out the guy who has lead the team in goals 3 years in a row, with 30-35 goal seasons and had actually shown multiple times he's willing to change his play to become a better more well rounded player (this year he lead the team in plus/minus, started making visible improvements defensively, in the forecheck, and the backcheck, and had multiple instances where he started to play more physicality) could end up being a move that is more detrimental than good especially when you are counting on rookie and sophomore players to replace him.

I’m on the fence with him. Does lots of good things, but the avoiding contact so many times in the playoffs rubbed me the wrong way.

 

[MissouriMook]

Lindstein?

Yes, even Lindstein. Nemec is ready for 18-20 minutes a night in the NHL next season, so he immediately opens our contention window a little sooner. Lindstein probably won’t ever be as impactful, and might not start helping the cause for 3-4 years.

 

[TruBlueFan1970]

I’m on the fence with him. Does lots of good things, but the avoiding contact so many times in the playoffs rubbed me the wrong way.

Agree. We don’t make the playoffs without his regular season performance, but he is a fragile player in big boy games, who kills plays in the ozone with his lack of grit/courage. Don't need him to fight or even increase his hits. Just be willing to battle for the puck in the hard areas. I’m on the fence with him.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

I’m on the fence with him. Does lots of good things, but the avoiding contact so many times in the playoffs rubbed me the wrong way.

If rumors are right he had a shoulder or rib injury, and definitely played like he did. Before that Stanley hit he was buzzing around and making plays while playing with some physicality and Jets fans were saying he was the only player actually putting any threat onto the Jets the first two games.

 

[Spektre]

After sitting on the end of the season and watching alot the content come out not only from our St. Louis media but other eliminated teams/podcast/youtube ect.

To me I think addressing our RHD depth is more important than upgrading 2C. I think the Blues are going to give Dvorsky every chance to make the team out of camp next year. If he shows he is not ready, Schenn has shown he is still serviceable in that role. This makes me think that if needed they can address this "issue" mid season.

I think the team Army should target is New Jersey. Their management has publicly announced their will be changes next year. They have a glut of RHD defenseman and RHD prospect ready to stick in the NHL. Hamilton, Pesce, Kovacevic, Nemec and Casey. With Nemec there was already some smoke of unhappiness, who knows if it's true or not, but where there is smoke their is usually fire. Some fans think that perhaps they will promote Nemec to full time duty next year and try and trade Hamilton. Obviously I would prefer to target Nemec, as he is younger but Army has also been seemingly interested in Hamilton in the past. I just feel like their is something here that could work out between the two teams.

I hate Faulk. I’m all for upgrading the RHD but it seems like Army is more concerned with getting a 2C. He missed out on Norris.

I don’t know who he will get but I think Army will get another center this offseason.

If I was betting, that would be my only wager. I think they will keep the same D.

 

[Mike Liut]

If rumors are right he had a shoulder or rib injury, and definitely played like he did. Before that Stanley hit he was buzzing around and making plays while playing with some physicality and Jets fans were saying he was the only player actually putting any threat onto the Jets the first two games.

Good point

 

[MissouriMook]

I’m on the fence with him. Does lots of good things, but the avoiding contact so many times in the playoffs rubbed me the wrong way.

Buchnevich is inarguably better on board battles, but I don’t understand why he doesn’t take the heat that Kyrou does for avoiding contact. Buch avoids physical play just as much as Kyrou, he’s just learned to use his stick and positioning better to be more effective along the wall, something that Kyrou can certainly learn to do better.

 

[Mike Liut]

Yes, even Lindstein. Nemec is ready for 18-20 minutes a night in the NHL next season, so he immediately opens our contention window a little sooner. Lindstein probably won’t ever be as impactful, and might not start helping the cause for 3-4 years.

Lindstein + #19 for Nemec? Seems like a good offer to me.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Better chance Buch continues to decline vs finding the fountain of youth. I’ll get flamed, but the time to trade him was the 23/24 deadline. That extension was a mistake. If Snuggs, Bolduc and Neighbours can all score 25 goals, Buch should be on the 3rd line with Dvorsky and ??
Jake-Thomas-Snuggerud
Holloway-Schenn-Kyrou
Buch-Dvorsky-Bolduc
Walker-??/Sunny-Toro

Lines assume no trades.

I would move Buchnevich before Kyrou. Kyrou even with his warts has been the most consistent player on the team WHILE transforming himself into a better two way player. The fact he has been able to go from -38 to -12 to +23 in a 3 year span with very minimal drop off in production is not an easy task.

Buchnevich has made multiple bad plays in the final minutes of games that end up costing up the game. All while his offensive game has fallen off every single year and he has become less effective.

 

[Mike Liut]

I’d love to move Buch

 

[Mike Liut]

Lindstein + #19 for Nemec? Seems like a good offer to me.

I’d include Buch as part of a bigger deal

 

[LetsGoBooze]

Kyrou doesnt even board battle during the season, i dont think an injury changed his performance. His game just doesnt translate well to playoffs. He's no Vladdy, gets pushed off pucks too easily while attempting to go around defenders and out right refusing to go into the corners. Fingers crossed for a hockey trade.

 

[MissouriMook]

Lindstein + #19 for Nemec? Seems like a good offer to me.

Absolutely. Even if it is a bit of an overpayment it is a good investment to open the contention window sooner and we likely have 3-4 other LD in our system that will be NHL players in 3-4 years besides Broberg and Tucker once Fowler hangs them up.