2024-2025 Blues Trade Proposals Thread.

[greybush314]

Jordan Kyrou and our 1st for Alex Tuch(8yr/8.5m) and Ryan Mcleod (8yr/6.5m) with extensions

Buchnevich-Thomaa-Snuggerrud
Holloway-Mcleod-Tuch
Neighbours-Schenn-Bolduc
WTF
Sundqvist

Move Joseph, Texier and Leddy
Sign Ekbald 7yr/9m

Fowler-Parayko
Broberg-Ekblad
Tucker-Faulk
Suter

Leaves us about 8m to extend Hofer

With the cap increase in 2026 we have enough for a Broberg and Holloway extension too

 

[Brian39]

Jordan Kyrou and our 1st for Alex Tuch(8yr/8.5m) and Ryan Mcleod (8yr/6.5m) with extensions

Buchnevich-Thomaa-Snuggerrud
Holloway-Mcleod-Tuch
Neighbours-Schenn-Bolduc
WTF
Sundqvist

Move Joseph, Texier and Leddy
Sign Ekbald 7yr/9m

Fowler-Parayko
Broberg-Ekblad
Tucker-Faulk
Suter

Leaves us about 8m to extend Hofer

With the cap increase in 2026 we have enough for a Broberg and Holloway extension too

Not a chance I make that deal if I'm Buffalo. Tuch is possibly the only player in the league who actively wanted to go to Buffalo (he's from Syracuse and grew up a Sabres fan) and he's exploded as a player there. Moving him and McLeod for Kyrou opens a hole, they have the cap space to overpay guys, and failing to reach a deal with hometown Tuch would likely be the end of the front office.

I also would hesitate to sign that contract if I'm Tuch and absolutely wouldn't sign that contract if I was McLeod.

But if Buffalo says yes and those extensions are in place, that is a package I'd move Kyrou for.

Absolutely zero interest in giving Ekblad $9M x 7. He's missed 20+ games in 4 of his last 5 seasons. He missed 11 games in that 5th season. The most recent year was due to suspension, but that suspension was PED related, which certainly suggests that the player felt he needed a bit 'extra' recovery to stay in the lineup. How confident are you that he can stay in the lineup AND avoid a 2nd PED suspension? Because the next PED suspension would be a 60 gamer (that can't be placed on LTIR). I'd be totally willing to gamble on Ekblad at the right price/term. My concerns aren't high enough to label him "avoid at all costs." But the number I'd be comfortable with is a hell of a lot lower than $9M through his age 35 season.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

I'm fine with us kicking the can down the road to the next trade deadline or summer of 2026. For us to go on a run, we probably do need to upgrade Faulk, but I also think we'll benefit by finding out what type of dman Broberg will be developing into. My view of him is that he leans more defensive than offensive, but he does have great skating ability and some offensive skills that allows him to produce a solid amount. I think one area we lack outside of Fowler is in-zone offensive IQ among the dmen. Fowler is the most skillful and can create things, Parayko has been playing to his strengths and using his body and shot more, but he's not much of a creator. Broberg and Faulk are both decent at times, but I don't think either are skillful enough for what we are lacking.

I don't think it's a super urgent need, and I don't think Dobson has to be that guy. I think it would benefit us to see what else Broberg has in him because I would expect further development from him, and that can help inform what our true need is next to him.

I mean, he's paired with Faulk. Not exactly the player he can fully activate in the offensive zone with.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

I disagree on Broberg needing a defense first partner.

I don’t think he needs it as he defends quite well, but if he had it he seems to have more offense he can unleash.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Right, he wouldn’t extend. So that tells me either he wants out but didn’t want to leave mid-season because he wife was pregnant, isn’t sure if he wants to return and wants to see his options this summer, or he wants to return but the Leafs offered him much less than what he feels he’s worth.

I think there’s a good chance he stays in TOR but at least an equal chance he leaves.

I do think he wanted to let season unfold, but he is Toronto kid who always wanted to be a leaf. I think staying is his first choice. I expect he signs massive deal with leafs.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

I don’t think he needs it as he defends quite well, but if he had it he seems to have more offense he can unleash.

My exact thoughts. Broberg clearly has a much higher offensive ceiling that he can build towards. Pairing him with a Dobson will force him into a more defensive role where I feel it could hurt him fully reaching his potential.

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

My exact thoughts. Broberg clearly has a much higher offensive ceiling that he can build towards. Pairing him with a Dobson will force him into a more defensive role where I feel it could hurt him fully reaching his potential.

I think specifically targeting a defense first guy is a mistake. If you’re able to get a better overall player, you don’t pass on it just because he’s not a stud defensively. Plus, I think Dobson’s defensive woes are a bit overblown. He’s certainly not a Parayko defensively, but I think he’s an adequate defender similar to how a younger Faulk was. At 5v5 this season, Dobson was the only one of the Isles top 4 D to have a positive GF/GA. He really only got torched by ENGs against, but given Roy’s penchant for pulling the goalie at absurd times, it makes sense.

Overall, I don’t think being paired with Dobson would affect Broberg’s ability to activate offensively too much if at all.

 

[WeWentBlues]

Thomas-Larkin-Schenn-Faksa down the middle with our winger depth would be so filthy. Make it happen Doug!

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Thomas-Larkin-Schenn-Faksa down the middle with our winger depth would be so filthy. Make it happen Doug!
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Eww Leddy.

 

[Eldon Reid]

Personally there isn't a ton FA wise I would be interested. Trading is the route to go to fill 2nd line center spot. There are 2 different thought processes on this for me.

#1 How far is Dvorsky? Year from full time or 2 years from being full time
#2 Do we see him as top 6 center or 3rd line? Hopefully top 6.
#3 What happens with Faska? If we resign him, it makes a little more of a jam at center which is a a good thing.

If I was GM, I would be talking to the following teams:

Devils
Kings
Avs (not as much)
Sabres

2 older players to fill in the gap as stop gap
Danault 2 years at 5.5 mill Solid 2 way player with good history in playoffs (personally I like him)
Colton 2 year at 4 mill (Not as big on him), but with all of the trades Avs have done I can see them getting rid of him

Sabres have perfect center for us
McLeod (this one is about perfect)

Devils
Glass (what happen to him)? I think Vegas screwed up his development personally. Just wonder if he is ready to make turn for the better
Can Mercer play center? It says he plays all 3 but never can believe that stuff

 

[Renard]

We aren’t getting Marner. No sense even wasting energy thinking about it

I just watched a You Tube video suggesting that the Blues have decided to part with Kyrou and the Rangers are frustrated with La Freniere.
Both players are under contract long-term. We don't have to lure a snotty free agent here.

But is this proposed trade one in which two teams are just exchanging problems?

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

I just watched a You Tube video suggesting that the Blues have decided to part with Kyrou and the Rangers are frustrated with La Freniere.
Both players are under contract long-term. We don't have to lure a snotty free agent here.

But is this proposed trade one in which two teams are just exchanging problems?

Kyrou: 36g, 24a, 70p, +23, $8.15M per season
Lafreniere: 17g, 28a, 45p, -13, $7.45M per season

I'll keep our "problem." Are we serious??

Joke of a proposal to be honest. I'm glad our GM is smarter than that.

 

[STL fan in MN]

Thomas-Larkin-Schenn-Faksa down the middle with our winger depth would be so filthy. Make it happen Doug!
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Adding Larkin with the only current player on the roster leaving being Faulk would be quite the feat. Also, why would Detroit even consider trading their #1C?

 

[STL fan in MN]

I just watched a You Tube video suggesting that the Blues have decided to part with Kyrou and the Rangers are frustrated with La Freniere.
Both players are under contract long-term. We don't have to lure a snotty free agent here.

But is this proposed trade one in which two teams are just exchanging problems?

First off, that’d be a pretty horrible deal. I’m not a big Kyrou fan but I still take him over Lafreniere quite easily. Secondly, some guy on YouTube making a video means nothing. It’s as official as someone here saying they think the Blues are fed up with Kyrou, want to trade him and throwing out some random trade proposal. Unless there’s some source behind it, it’s just his opinion. He just made a video whereas someone here would just use words. Carries the same amount of weight though - none.

 

[Renard]

First off, that’d be a pretty horrible deal. I’m not a big Kyrou fan but I still take him over Lafreniere quite easily. Secondly, some guy on YouTube making a video means nothing. It’s as official as someone here saying they think the Blues are fed up with Kyrou, want to trade him and throwing out some random trade proposal. Unless there’s some source behind it, it’s just his opinion. He just made a video whereas someone here would just use words. Carries the same amount of weight though - none.

I am not advocating that we make this deal. Did you get the impression that I was?

 

[Linkens Mastery]

I just watched a You Tube video suggesting that the Blues have decided to part with Kyrou and the Rangers are frustrated with La Freniere.
Both players are under contract long-term. We don't have to lure a snotty free agent here.

But is this proposed trade one in which two teams are just exchanging problems?

Yeah. Let's trade one of our only two players with more than 25 goals for another guy who makes less than 1 mil less and has 1/2 the amount of goals and 25 less points. That's going to totally help our offense.

 

[Mike Liut]

I just watched a You Tube video suggesting that the Blues have decided to part with Kyrou and the Rangers are frustrated with La Freniere.
Both players are under contract long-term. We don't have to lure a snotty free agent here.

But is this proposed trade one in which two teams are just exchanging problems?

Are the Rangers adding their 2025 1st?

 

[WeWentBlues]

Adding Larkin with the only current player on the roster leaving being Faulk would be quite the feat. Also, why would Detroit even consider trading their #1C?

Oh I don't know. Maybe something to do with the fact that Larkin and Yzerman have gone back and forth in the media about the front office standing pat at the trade deadline. Looked a lot like a player that wants out.

Otherwise I agree. Larkin would not be available and maybe he still isn't even with the animosity on public display in the media.

 

[Beauterham]

I just watched a You Tube video suggesting that the Blues have decided to part with Kyrou and the Rangers are frustrated with La Freniere.
Both players are under contract long-term. We don't have to lure a snotty free agent here.

But is this proposed trade one in which two teams are just exchanging problems?

To be honest, anyone can make a YouTube video suggesting whatever they want. When I googled for 'Kyrou' and 'trade' It mostly got linked to something Jeremy Rutherford mentioned in the Athletic. Which is... basicly what I posted underneath. It's nothing.

Decide on Kyrou before no-trade clause kicks in​

Kyrou’s eight-year contract started in 2022-23, but his full no-trade clause doesn’t kick in until July 1, 2025. So if the Blues have any intentions of trading him without his approval, they have approximately two months to do so.

This season might’ve been Kyrou’s best all-around season. He scored 36 goals — one shy of his career high — and he led the Blues with a plus-minus rating of plus-23. He was on the ice for 63 five-on-five goals for, according to Natural Stat Trick, the most of any Blues player, and just 35 five-on-five goals against, which was the fifth-fewest among the team’s forwards.



In the playoffs, Kyrou had three goals, two of which were on the power play, and no assists in the seven-game series. He was on the ice for three five-on-five goals for and five against.

How do the Blues feel about him? Well, it’s hard not to like a player who’s led your team in scoring the last three seasons and made a concerted effort to improve his defense. But does he match the vision for the future, specifically GM-in-waiting Steen’s vision? That remains to be seen.

If the Blues wanted to move Kyrou before the triggering of his full no-trade clause this offseason, one fact is certain: While there’s been interest in him around the NHL in recent years, his stock might be a little higher this summer after the season he just had.

 

[TruBlueFan1970]

I’ve been pushing the McLeod route for a while. Only way that the Sabres let him go though is if he doesn’t want to sign long term with them. Also, they have the 9th pick and may get a good one in O’Brien or Desnoyers in the draft. They also have Helenius in the system, who looks like a player.

I’d give any one of Dvorsky/Stenberg/Ralph and our 2025 1st for McCleod. If they don’t want futures, see if a bigger deal could be made that allows them to MAYBE sniff the playoffs next year.

Kyrou, Stancl and #19 overall for McCleod, Helenius and #9 overall.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

I’ve been pushing the McLeod route for a while. Only way that the Sabres let him go though is he doesn’t want to sign long term with them. Also, they have the 9th pick and may get a good one in O’Brien or Desnoyers in the draft. They also have Helenius in the system, who looks like a player.

I’d give any one of Dvorsky/Stenberg/Ralph and our 2025 1st for McCleod. If they don’t want futures, see if a bigger deal could be made that allows them to MAYBE sniff the playoffs next year.

Kyrou, Stancl and #19 overall for McCleod, Helenius and #9 overall.

Now I am seeing some value in this trade.

 

[shpongle falls]

Mcleod would be a nice c option for us. I wonder what Buffalo’s needs are?

 

[TheDizee]

kyrou must go

 

[MortiestOfMortys]

I’ve been pushing the McLeod route for a while. Only way that the Sabres let him go though is if he doesn’t want to sign long term with them. Also, they have the 9th pick and may get a good one in O’Brien or Desnoyers in the draft. They also have Helenius in the system, who looks like a player.

I’d give any one of Dvorsky/Stenberg/Ralph and our 2025 1st for McCleod. If they don’t want futures, see if a bigger deal could be made that allows them to MAYBE sniff the playoffs next year.

Kyrou, Stancl and #19 overall for McCleod, Helenius and #9 overall.

I don't understand the point you're trying to make here. You say that the only reason Buffalo would trade McLeod is because they know they won't re-sign him, i.e. they don't have leverage. Then, you say you want to trade two of our most valuable assets for him straight up. Then your final proposal has Buffalo sending us more value than we're sending them.

I at least agree with two things you're saying: McLeod would be a good fit here, and the only reason we get him is either we wait until he's a free agent, or Buffalo bails early because they know they can't keep him.

I don't agree that he would be such a good fit, that he's worth skimming off the top of the asset pile to get him. I also don't see what good Kyrou would do them, especially not at the expense of dropping 10 spots in the first round of a shallow draft. They overpaid for him in the first place because their center depth is bad. Swapping him (and a high-end center prospect) for a winger (and a winger prospect) puts them right back at square one.

 

[Xanadude]

The sticking point with going after McLeod is that Buffalo badly needs players just like him: defensively responsible players, regardless of position. If you look at their numbers last year, they could score quite a bit but were utterly disastrous defensively. A whole season of Norris and McLeod in the middle six would likely help. (although my hot take is that Owen Power living up to his potential is the thing that has to happen).

Us getting McLeod is contingent on Buffalo being strapped with too many RFAs and/or McLeod either refusing to stay in Buffalo and/or demanding more than Buffalo can afford.

They have somewhere around 18 million available with McLeod, Byram, Quinn and Peterka up as RFAs and they do not have a backup goalie if Levi plays in the AHL. Unless they bridge them all and face a UFA fire sale next year, you have to think they have to make a trade somewhere. Peterka and Byram combined, if paid market value, should take up most of that 18 million.

Now that I think it, maybe another offer sheet might be on the table.