2024-2025 Blues Trade Proposals Thread.

[Spektre]

It’s fun to think about Marner etc.. but c’mon, he’s not going to be a Blue.

As much as I want to see Leddy, Faulk, Texier, and Joseph off the roster next season, I highly doubt all 4 are gone.

I’m expecting a trade for a tweener 2c/3c. I’m not expecting a trade to replace Faulk. I think they will ride it out.

They probably keep Joseph and get rid of Texier somehow.

One semi big decision is whether they sign Faksa. I know it’s a popular decision but I’m leaning towards they won’t.


Buch Thomas Snugg
Holloway Schenn Kyrou
Neighbors X Bolduc
Toro Kaskimaki Walker
Sunny Joseph

Fowler Parayko
Broberg Faulk
Leddy Tucker
Kessel

Binny
Hofer


There’s your lineup with perhaps Schenn bumped to 3C

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

I’ve always liked Marner’s hockey sense and two-way ability but he’s always had compete issues in the playoffs, is undersized, a winger and will command huge money. Just not the guy I would go after.

Is Claude Giroux too far gone to help us in the middle-6? 50 pts this season but he’s clearly slowing down. 61% on draws though which is pretty phenomenal.

I’d kick the tires on Tavares but he’s also very slow. Would love to have Matt Duchene but as of now, I expect he’ll end up back in Dallas. Granlund is in Dallas too but plays more LW these days. I feel like Brock Nelson is the sort that’s going to command too much term and start to go downhill fast. But I l’d at least kick the tires on him. Pius Suter is a C but more of a 3rd liner and he’s bad on the draw.

Trade route may be the way to go for this “200 foot scoring player.”

Is giroux still a center? He takes a lot of faceoffs bc he is great at them, but I got sense he has been winger for a while.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

It’s fun to think about Marner etc.. but c’mon, he’s not going to be a Blue.

As much as I want to see Leddy, Faulk, Texier, and Joseph off the roster next season, I highly doubt all 4 are gone.

I’m expecting a trade for a tweener 2c/3c. I’m not expecting a trade to replace Faulk. I think they will ride it out.

They probably keep Joseph and get rid of Texier somehow.

One semi big decision is whether they sign Faksa. I know it’s a popular decision but I’m leaning towards they won’t.


Buch Thomas Snugg
Holloway Schenn Kyrou
Neighbors X Bolduc
Toro Kaskimaki Walker
Sunny Joseph

Fowler Parayko
Broberg Faulk
Leddy Tucker
Kessel

Binny
Hofer


There’s your lineup with perhaps Schenn bumped to 3C

I think this is likely mostly right, but Kaskimaki is a winger. He hasn’t played center since juniors or maybe even earlier.

 

[Majorityof1]

Is giroux still a center? He takes a lot of faceoffs bc he is great at them, but I got sense he has been winger for a while.

He plays with Stutzle and Brady most of the time. He may take a lot of faceoffs for the line but Stutzle is the C. I think he shifted to wing in Philly as well when Coots broke out.

 

[STL fan in MN]

Is giroux still a center? He takes a lot of faceoffs bc he is great at them, but I got sense he has been winger for a while.

Does he? I watch a S ton of hockey but admittedly the Sens are a team I just don’t watch.

 

[SirPaste]

It is still unlikely we land Marner imo but I think it’s possible so until that changes I’ll keep on it.

I feel a lot of his reputation comes from his output as a growing player in top minutes. He’s grown now - imo will be among or the best winger in the league for multiple years. His flaws can be evaluated all day: what matters to me is that everybody else has worse flaws and they all have to deal with the problems we would create nightly. I care about the moments in hockey where it’s our 5 best versus theirs - and if we aren’t going to draft in the top 3 then…if we can low key nab a top winger then we can move from being a little weak in the area to being one of the strongest in the league.

We likely wont ever know what motivations cause marners future. Maybe he explains his priorities when the dust settles, maybe not. Wherever he signs I’m sure there’s some real good reasons and good for him. Over a lifetime of being a blues fan I guess I’ve learned the following: it isn’t your turn until it is. You don’t usually get a heads up. Gretzky played here - weirder stuff has happened. Marner probably isn’t even interested in our market but until I’ve heard it from a good source then it is what it is.

There are a lot of guys who have their name on the cup who are as physical as Marner - but he obviously doesn’t thrive in that area. IMO he more than makes up for it with his ability to disrupt plays with his stick and to constantly make great choices - he’s good enough to play a step faster than the best in the league and that’s the measuring stick that counts to me. Hes better at most of what Kyrou does while also being a guy you’d put on defense for a game if you had injuries and didn’t want to risk a call up. He’s reliable so far: despite an elevated role hes been able to skate in 70 or more games more than half the time. 4 times at 80 games or more. That’s the toughness meter that counts to me.

I’d be all in on an effort to lure him if I were in the ownership group and I’d be willing to make a deal with Toronto involving Kyrou to jump the gun on the deadline and get a sign and trade. But I think I’d always be like this if a guy of his caliber came due. I’d say more or less the same stuff if Rantanen were the one with question marks.

Gretzky came here because his wife is from here, they still own a home here. He also wanted to play with his buddy Hull. Marner has no such connections to STL.

 

[AyeBah]

It’s fun to think about Marner etc.. but c’mon, he’s not going to be a Blue.

As much as I want to see Leddy, Faulk, Texier, and Joseph off the roster next season, I highly doubt all 4 are gone.

I’m expecting a trade for a tweener 2c/3c. I’m not expecting a trade to replace Faulk. I think they will ride it out.

They probably keep Joseph and get rid of Texier somehow.

One semi big decision is whether they sign Faksa. I know it’s a popular decision but I’m leaning towards they won’t.


Buch Thomas Snugg
Holloway Schenn Kyrou
Neighbors X Bolduc
Toro Kaskimaki Walker
Sunny Joseph

Fowler Parayko
Broberg Faulk
Leddy Tucker
Kessel

Binny
Hofer


There’s your lineup with perhaps Schenn bumped to 3C

Barf

 

[Stealth JD]

Gretzky came here because his wife is from here, they still own a home here. He also wanted to play with his buddy Hull. Marner has no such connections to STL.

Marner and Robert Thomas won a Memorial Cup together with the London Knights in ‘15-‘16. Perhaps they’re pen-pals still.

 

[Xanadude]

IMO the quickest 2C fix, outside of a Nelson or Bennett signing, is to trade with Buffalo for either Krebs or McLeod, McLeod preferred.

McLeod had a ridiculous year but Buffalo is flush with centers (Thompson/Norris/Krebs/McLeod and Kulich and Helenius in the minors) and badly needs defensively responsible wingers on the cheap. McLeod is also an RFA and Buffalo has 4 major RFA players to sign this year: Peterka, McLeod, Quinn and Byram. If this year was an outlier, Buffalo could have an anchor on their hands.

My offer would be a one for one: Bolduc for McLeod. Bolduc is defensively responsible, showed great PP skills and is on an ELC with a number of cost-controlled years moving foward (no way to block the trade, either). We would miss him, but we would be trading from a position of strength (winger) to shore up a major weakness (middle six center)

On our side, McLeod, if last year is his norm moving forward, can either add a ton of speed and a good shot to a second line or play shutdown minutes on a third line. Or both! We can easily afford to overpay him a bit on a bridge to find out. McLeod has played with Holloway and Broberg and the speed on a Holloway-McLeod-Kyrou line would be utterly overwhelming. McLeod pushes Schenn down to 3c immediately and, if/when Dvorsky is ready, can be a permanent mismatch on the third line.

Of course, maybe Buffalo sees that potential too and won't trade him, in which case we offer a lesser package for Krebs, who IMO is a reasonable improvement to 3c over Sunny.

Losing Bolduc seems steep but that, to me, is a sign that it's actually a fair trade. Does either team say no?

 

[STL fan in MN]

IMO the quickest 2C fix, outside of a Nelson or Bennett signing, is to trade with Buffalo for either Krebs or McLeod, McLeod preferred.

McLeod had a ridiculous year but Buffalo is flush with centers (Thompson/Norris/Krebs/McLeod and Kulich and Helenius in the minors) and badly needs defensively responsible wingers on the cheap. McLeod is also an RFA and Buffalo has 4 major RFA players to sign this year: Peterka, McLeod, Quinn and Byram. If this year was an outlier, Buffalo could have an anchor on their hands.

My offer would be a one for one: Bolduc for McLeod. Bolduc is defensively responsible, showed great PP skills and is on an ELC with a number of cost-controlled years moving foward (no way to block the trade, either). We would miss him, but we would be trading from a position of strength (winger) to shore up a major weakness (middle six center)

On our side, McLeod, if last year is his norm moving forward, can either add a ton of speed and a good shot to a second line or play shutdown minutes on a third line. Or both! We can easily afford to overpay him a bit on a bridge to find out. McLeod has played with Holloway and Broberg and the speed on a Holloway-McLeod-Kyrou line would be utterly overwhelming. McLeod pushes Schenn down to 3c immediately and, if/when Dvorsky is ready, can be a permanent mismatch on the third line.

Of course, maybe Buffalo sees that potential too and won't trade him, in which case we offer a lesser package for Krebs, who IMO is a reasonable improvement to 3c over Sunny.

Losing Bolduc seems steep but that, to me, is a sign that it's actually a fair trade. Does either team say no?

Kyrou for Tage Thompson. I bet back in 2018 we fought like hell to keep Kyrou out of the deal for ROR and Buffalo eventually “settled” for Tage. Let’s fix that.

Seriously though, it’s not a bad thought. I’d want to make sure Ryan isn’t a psycho like his brother Mikey first and check out his game more to see if I thought this was an outlier year or if I think he could replicate it. And Buffalo just acquired him last season so there’s a good chance they have no interest in moving him. But it’s a worthwhile proposal IMO.

 

[Drubilly]

IMO the quickest 2C fix, outside of a Nelson or Bennett signing, is to trade with Buffalo for either Krebs or McLeod, McLeod preferred.

McLeod had a ridiculous year but Buffalo is flush with centers (Thompson/Norris/Krebs/McLeod and Kulich and Helenius in the minors) and badly needs defensively responsible wingers on the cheap. McLeod is also an RFA and Buffalo has 4 major RFA players to sign this year: Peterka, McLeod, Quinn and Byram. If this year was an outlier, Buffalo could have an anchor on their hands.

My offer would be a one for one: Bolduc for McLeod. Bolduc is defensively responsible, showed great PP skills and is on an ELC with a number of cost-controlled years moving foward (no way to block the trade, either). We would miss him, but we would be trading from a position of strength (winger) to shore up a major weakness (middle six center)

On our side, McLeod, if last year is his norm moving forward, can either add a ton of speed and a good shot to a second line or play shutdown minutes on a third line. Or both! We can easily afford to overpay him a bit on a bridge to find out. McLeod has played with Holloway and Broberg and the speed on a Holloway-McLeod-Kyrou line would be utterly overwhelming. McLeod pushes Schenn down to 3c immediately and, if/when Dvorsky is ready, can be a permanent mismatch on the third line.

Of course, maybe Buffalo sees that potential too and won't trade him, in which case we offer a lesser package for Krebs, who IMO is a reasonable improvement to 3c over Sunny.

Losing Bolduc seems steep but that, to me, is a sign that it's actually a fair trade. Does either team say no?

McLeod is definitely who I want this offseason. Not sure who I’m sending the other way yet. Trying to make the sting a mosquito bite and not a rusty nail.

 

[ds774622]

Regarding Marner. While we all can dream and hope for this big fish, him and his wife just had a baby, which I think should factor into the calculus of where he plays next. We see it all the time how players like to put down roots/hesitate to move with a young family, and they're both from Toronto so I think TOR will ultimately sign him for eight years. Somebody will throw stupid money at him and I don't think it'll matter. I would even bet that he signs before 7/1.

Edit: Not sure why I'm quoting Drubilly's post here, but taking that out since it's irrelevant to my point.

 

[Mike Liut]

We aren’t getting Marner. No sense even wasting energy thinking about it

 

[SirPaste]

IMO the quickest 2C fix, outside of a Nelson or Bennett signing, is to trade with Buffalo for either Krebs or McLeod, McLeod preferred.

McLeod would be a fantastic pick up, depending on price. I have zero interest in Krebs at all though.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

McLeod's age fits perfectly with this group and his size/speed combo would fit so perfectly in between Holloway and Kyrou. He's also a guy that has mobility to play up and down the lineup with his skillset. If Dvorsky happens to break out and claim that 2C role in 2026, McLeod has the defensive profile to round out a quality center group on the third line.

With this being an RFA year for McLeod, I suppose it's possible that he indicates he has no interest in signing long-term in Buffalo which increases the desire for the team to move him. I don't see Buffalo making that decision this offseason though.

 

[STL fan in MN]

Regarding Marner. While we all can dream and hope for this big fish, him and his wife just had a baby, which I think should factor into the calculus of where he plays next. We see it all the time how players like to put down roots/hesitate to move with a young family, and they're both from Toronto so I think TOR will ultimately sign him for eight years. Somebody will throw stupid money at him and I don't think it'll matter. I would even bet that he signs before 7/1.

Edit: Not sure why I'm quoting Drubilly's post here, but taking that out since it's irrelevant to my point.

That’s a fair point but does Toronto even want him? Or want him at the price they know it’ll take to re-sign him? They’re a 1st place team and still tried to trade him at the deadline and Marner said no.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

That’s a fair point but does Toronto even want him? Or want him at the price they know it’ll take to re-sign him? They’re a 1st place team and still tried to trade him at the deadline and Marner said no.

They tried to extend him first. They only looked at swapping him for rantanen when he wouldn’t extend during season. He is from Toronto. Assuming that the fans don’t turn on him again this playoffs, I expect he extends there after the season.

 

[WeWentBlues]

Looking at our contracts in 25-26, Army showing again why he's one of the best in the business.

Krug - 15 team no trade on 7/1, 6.5M
Schenn - 15 team no trade on 7/1, 6.5M
Faulk - 15 team no trade on 7/1, 6.5M
Leddy (not signed by Army) - 16 team trade on 7/1, 4M
Kyrou - NTC doesnt kick in until after 7/1, 8M

That's 30M in potential cap flexibility Army has between now and on 7/1. Army can be as aggressive as he wants this offseason.

 

[STL fan in MN]

Looking at our contracts in 25-26, Army showing again why he's one of the best in the business.

Krug - 15 team no trade on 7/1, 6.5M
Schenn - 15 team no trade on 7/1, 6.5M
Faulk - 15 team no trade on 7/1, 6.5M
Leddy (not signed by Army) - 16 team trade on 7/1, 4M
Kyrou - NTC doesnt kick in until after 7/1, 8M

That's 30M in potential cap flexibility Army has between now and on 7/1. Army can be as aggressive as he wants this offseason.

Leddy’s contract was signed by Army.

And agree. I haven’t been a fan of every signing but even when he agrees to a NTC, he almost always seems to make a full NTC turn into a modified NTC the last year or two of any deal he signs to give himself flexibility.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Be honest If we get Dobson who do we play him with? Because Broberg and Fowler both need a defensive first partner and Dobson is not that. Are we really that ready to bring back the Krug-Faulk style pairing?

 

[bleedblue1223]

Be honest If we get Dobson who do we play him with? Because Broberg and Fowler both need a defensive first partner and Dobson is not that. Are we really that ready to bring back the Krug-Faulk style pairing?

I disagree on Broberg needing a defense first partner.

 

[SirPaste]

I think Broberg - Dobson would be awesome

 

[STL fan in MN]

They tried to extend him first. They only looked at swapping him for rantanen when he wouldn’t extend during season. He is from Toronto. Assuming that the fans don’t turn on him again this playoffs, I expect he extends there after the season.

Right, he wouldn’t extend. So that tells me either he wants out but didn’t want to leave mid-season because he wife was pregnant, isn’t sure if he wants to return and wants to see his options this summer, or he wants to return but the Leafs offered him much less than what he feels he’s worth.

I think there’s a good chance he stays in TOR but at least an equal chance he leaves.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

I disagree on Broberg needing a defense first partner.

Dobson is bad defensively. While Broberg i think is above average I'd rather put him with a player that can defend and let him use his skating and offensive skills. Dobson is not that player.

Us getting him is just Paying 9mil + for Dobson to put up 50 points with below average defensive play after complaining about spending 6.5 on Krug to do the same.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Dobson is bad defensively. While Broberg i think is above average I'd rather put him with a player that can defend and let him use his skating and offensive skills. Dobson is not that player.

Us getting him is just Paying 9mil + for Dobson to put up 50 points with below average defensive play after complaining about spending 6.5 on Krug to do the same.

I'm fine with us kicking the can down the road to the next trade deadline or summer of 2026. For us to go on a run, we probably do need to upgrade Faulk, but I also think we'll benefit by finding out what type of dman Broberg will be developing into. My view of him is that he leans more defensive than offensive, but he does have great skating ability and some offensive skills that allows him to produce a solid amount. I think one area we lack outside of Fowler is in-zone offensive IQ among the dmen. Fowler is the most skillful and can create things, Parayko has been playing to his strengths and using his body and shot more, but he's not much of a creator. Broberg and Faulk are both decent at times, but I don't think either are skillful enough for what we are lacking.

I don't think it's a super urgent need, and I don't think Dobson has to be that guy. I think it would benefit us to see what else Broberg has in him because I would expect further development from him, and that can help inform what our true need is next to him.