2024-2025 Blues Trade Proposals Thread.

[TheOrganist]

I could see Army being interested in a guy like Marco Rossi who seems to have fallen out of favor in Minnesota for whatever reason despite some decent production. I think that type of target is much more realistic than these Elias Peterson proposals or X UFA who will command big dollars.

 

[BleedBlue14]

Faksa should not be brought back. He was great and we thank him for his great play but some team is going to overpay for him.

If the Blues want a depth forward, they should sign Trent Frederic. He has way more upside, skill and he fits the age bracket of the core. He is also a STL kid, so he would be running people over for the Note just like other people who love the city or are from here have done.

Trent Frederic was terrible this year. Aside from him being from St. Louis and him having a decent season under Montgomery there's no reason to explore it.

I would 10x over rather bring Faksa back on a 1 or 2 year deal than explore paying Frederic more money because he's younger and from here.

 

[SirPaste]

I could see Army being interested in a guy like Marco Rossi who seems to have fallen out of favor in Minnesota for whatever reason despite some decent production. I think that type of target is much more realistic than these Elias Peterson proposals or X UFA who will command big dollars.

I really don't understand why Minnesota seems intent on trading Rossi, seems like a good player at a premium position and still young. I would definitely be interested but doesn't seem like a player they would move in the division.

 

[Majorityof1]

I really don't understand why Minnesota seems intent on trading Rossi, seems like a good player at a premium position and still young. I would definitely be interested but doesn't seem like a player they would move in the division.

Would cap be the issue with Minn and Rossi? IIRC, his ELC is up. They might be concerned with, unable or unwilling to afford hisask on his next deal. A young 60 C on an ELC is a different beast than one looking to maximize his earnings now. Are we comfortable giving Rossi $7+ if that's what it takes?

I like the player, but would worry on the cost.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Monster deal with Vancouver to fix both our biggest needs? Would be a gamble, but i think i do it, plenty of upside.

EP + Willander
For
Kyrou + Dvorsky + 2025 1st

No. Want Absolutely nothing with EP.

 

[The Note]

Would cap be the issue with Minn and Rossi? IIRC, his ELC is up. They might be concerned with, unable or unwilling to afford hisask on his next deal. A young 60 C on an ELC is a different beast than one looking to maximize his earnings now. Are we comfortable giving Rossi $7+ if that's what it takes?

I like the player, but would worry on the cost.

Russo reported that Rossi rejected 5x$5 in the winter so I think you’re correct that you’re looking at closer to the $7 range.

Personally, I’d do it. Kinda doubt Minnesota would deal a guy like him in the division.

 

[Stealth JD]

Russo reported that Rossi rejected 5x$5 in the winter so I think you’re correct that you’re looking at closer to the $7 range.

Personally, I’d do it. Kinda doubt Minnesota would deal a guy like him in the division.

Army needs to buddy up with a GM in the East (Dubas?) and have him broker the deal...then move him to STL.
Blues definitely need skilled young centers, and Rossi would likely be pumped to stick it to Minnesota 4-5 times/season.

 

[ezcreepin]

If Rossi is on the move, Blues better be all over that. It's not everyday that a 60 point, 23 year old becomes available, so figure out what you have to do and do it.

 

[Majorityof1]

If Rossi is on the move, Blues better be all over that. It's not everyday that a 60 point, 23 year old becomes available, so figure out what you have to do and do it.

Live look inside Armstrong's office:

Army - Hey Bill. What would it take to get you to part with Rossi and what is he looking for on his next deal?....uh huh...we have to include him....nobody else...uh huh....that much?....one sec Bill. <covers phone>

Steen - I know that face Doug. But remember what ezcreepin said. Whatever it takes. The guy creeps easy, he'll know if you didn't do whatever it takes.

Army - We'll send over the paperwork.

Blues Twitter: Blues have trade for Marco Rossi and signed him to a $10 million extention. Minnesota will recieve Blues 1st round picks in '25, 26 and 27, Robert Thomas, Dylan Holliway and Dvorsky. Damn you ezcreepin!!!!

 

[WeWentBlues]

I really don't understand why Minnesota seems intent on trading Rossi, seems like a good player at a premium position and still young. I would definitely be interested but doesn't seem like a player they would move in the division.

It's because he's 5'9"

 

[TheDizee]

Trent Frederic was terrible this year. Aside from him being from St. Louis and him having a decent season under Montgomery there's no reason to explore it.

I would 10x over rather bring Faksa back on a 1 or 2 year deal than explore paying Frederic more money because he's younger and from here.

Lots of people have bad years and play better in a new market. Fowler was nothing special before we traded for him, he was playing terrible hockey.

His experience with coach is all the more reason to sign him. He clearly knows how to get the most out of him. The only problem is he is not a center. But he is a guy who can play up and down the lineup and won't break the bank. In fact, he may even take a hometown discount.

 

[Xerloris]

Kyrou/Dvorsky/1st for Brady Tkachuk.

that is beyond asinine. trade a 30 goal winger and our best center prospect and our 1st for a winger that only has a different play style. What do we do about our center problem now?

 

[TheDizee]

that is beyond asinine. trade a 30 goal winger and our best center prospect and our 1st for a winger that only has a different play style. What do we do about our center problem now?

Kyrou to Pittsburgh for 2025 1st round pick (they have 2, PIT/NYR, we would get the higher pick likely #10 or so)
B Tkachuk to STL for STL #19 pick + Pittsburgh 1st round pick

Faulk to Carolina for 2026 2nd

Kyrou gets a fresh start. Plays closer to home and with Crosby. We get our boy Tkachuk and get rid of Faulk's contract.

This also leaves roughly 21-22 million in cap space for them to sign #2C Taveres and #3/4 Dman Provlov. You could severely overpay for Taveres to get him on a 1 year deal, if it doesnt work out, you flip him at the deadline for picks.

 

[WeWentBlues]

Ottawa doesn't do that

 

[TheDizee]

Ottawa doesn't do that

Sweeten the pot some more then.

Give them a offer they can't refuse. Throw in a Neighbors. If they sign Frederic this free agency, then one of Bolduc/Neighbors is 100% expendable anyways. And I'd rather have Bolduc.

 

[ezcreepin]

Live look inside Armstrong's office:

Army - Hey Bill. What would it take to get you to part with Rossi and what is he looking for on his next deal?....uh huh...we have to include him....nobody else...uh huh....that much?....one sec Bill. <covers phone>

Steen - I know that face Doug. But remember what ezcreepin said. Whatever it takes. The guy creeps easy, he'll know if you didn't do whatever it takes.

Army - We'll send over the paperwork.

Blues Twitter: Blues have trade for Marco Rossi and signed him to a $10 million extention. Minnesota will recieve Blues 1st round picks in '25, 26 and 27, Robert Thomas, Dylan Holliway and Dvorsky. Damn you ezcreepin!!!!

Aye man, I did say whatever it takes

 

[JMarks3]

that is beyond asinine. trade a 30 goal winger and our best center prospect and our 1st for a winger that only has a different play style. What do we do about our center problem now?

Kyrou is softttt. Dvorsky will be alright, but he looked lost in his two games with the Blues. 1st would likely be for 2026, since we don’t have a 2nd (Broberg) or 3rd (Holloway) in 2025. I had Bennett or Duchene slotting in as 2C.

You’re in range to draft a Kyrou-esque player for cheaper in Cullen Potter:

 

[Spektre]

Kyrou to Pittsburgh for 2025 1st round pick (they have 2, PIT/NYR, we would get the higher pick likely #10 or so)
B Tkachuk to STL for STL #19 pick + Pittsburgh 1st round pick

Faulk to Carolina for 2026 2nd

Kyrou gets a fresh start. Plays closer to home and with Crosby. We get our boy Tkachuk and get rid of Faulk's contract.

This also leaves roughly 21-22 million in cap space for them to sign #2C Taveres and #3/4 Dman Provlov. You could severely overpay for Taveres to get him on a 1 year deal, if it doesnt work out, you flip him at the deadline for picks.

Ottawa says no and they’re trying to compete now. It would be like offering 2 1st’s for Kyrou

 

[TheDizee]

Ottawa says no and they’re trying to compete now. It would be like offering 2 1st’s for Kyrou

I'd take that deal in a New York Minute and then flip them myself.

Kyrou must go.

 

[BleedBlue14]

Lots of people have bad years and play better in a new market. Fowler was nothing special before we traded for him, he was playing terrible hockey.

His experience with coach is all the more reason to sign him. He clearly knows how to get the most out of him. The only problem is he is not a center. But he is a guy who can play up and down the lineup and won't break the bank. In fact, he may even take a hometown discount.

We don't need a winger though, and aside from him playing a bit of time at 4C and a small stint at 3C he's effectively a winger.

Where does that fit in our current roster construction?

Buch - Thomas - Snuggerud
Holloway - Schenn - Kyrou
Neighbors - 3C(Dvorsky) - Bolduc
Walker - 4C - Toropchenko

Extras under contract - Sundqvist, Texier, Joseph

We have a pretty established forward group returning. I guess if you could get him to take like a 2m x 1 year contract it would be worth the gamble. I don't like that he's slow. He's effectively Sundqvist that fights from watching him. He's not good on a cycle. I don't see how that would work with a Neighbors and a Bolduc. It could work as an option on the 4th line sure but I still don't see a benefit. Our 4th line was a good identity line. Faksa was a large part of that. I'd much rather bring that back as opposed to just take a chance on Frederic. I think Joseph honestly brings a similar value to Frederic and that's mainly because he has speed where Frederic has physicality. We already have a lack of skill in our bottom 6, I don't see where Frederic and Neighbors coexist and frankly Neighbors is a much more effective player and a higher skilled player.

 

[BleedBlue14]

Kyrou is softttt. Dvorsky will be alright, but he looked lost in his two games with the Blues. 1st would likely be for 2026, since we don’t have a 2nd (Broberg) or 3rd (Holloway) in 2025. I had Bennett or Duchene slotting in as 2C.

You’re in range to draft a Kyrou-esque player for cheaper in Cullen Potter:

Kyrou has averaged 70-80 points over a 4 year span. He's also heavily improved his two-way play.

There was 49 players who scored over 70 points this season.
52 players scored 70 or more points the season before.
60 players scored over 70 points the 22-23 season.

You aren't in the range to draft a Kyrou-esque player. Maybe 5 teams are in the range to draft a Kyrou-Esque player. In this draft, I'd say maybe 2 teams are.

Not every player has to be a monster hitting everything or be 6'4. You need guys that can produce points and Kyrou's been towards the top of the list in the league at creating rush chances.

 

[JMarks3]

Kyrou has averaged 70-80 points over a 4 year span. He's also heavily improved his two-way play.

There was 49 players who scored over 70 points this season.
52 players scored 70 or more points the season before.
60 players scored over 70 points the 22-23 season.

You aren't in the range to draft a Kyrou-esque player. Maybe 5 teams are in the range to draft a Kyrou-Esque player. In this draft, I'd say maybe 2 teams are.

Not every player has to be a monster hitting everything or be 6'4. You need guys that can produce points and Kyrou's been towards the top of the list in the league at creating rush chances.

Kyrou was taken 35th overall. Blues have the 19th pick. Potter should be there. Most mocks have him going in the early 20s. Did you watch his highlights?

 

[TheOrganist]

Kyrou has averaged 70-80 points over a 4 year span. He's also heavily improved his two-way play.

There was 49 players who scored over 70 points this season.
52 players scored 70 or more points the season before.
60 players scored over 70 points the 22-23 season.

You aren't in the range to draft a Kyrou-esque player. Maybe 5 teams are in the range to draft a Kyrou-Esque player. In this draft, I'd say maybe 2 teams are.

Not every player has to be a monster hitting everything or be 6'4. You need guys that can produce points and Kyrou's been towards the top of the list in the league at creating rush chances.

You’re trying to have a logical conversation about Kyrou with these people? In about 18 months he and Thomas are going to have two of the best contracts in the league. The only way moving Kyrou is even on the map is for a top flight, established defenseman.

 

[ToastedRavioli]

Would you guys trade a package centered around Kyrou for Schaefer/NYI's pick? Islanders already have ample D so I could see them looking to move down or trade it out right. Would Kyrou + 19 Ovr potentially be enough? I'm not super deadset on trading Kyrou like others but this team does need young D a lot more than wingers.

 

[TheDizee]

Would you guys trade a package centered around Kyrou for Schaefer/NYI's pick? Islanders already have ample D so I could see them looking to move down or trade it out right. Would Kyrou + 19 Ovr potentially be enough? I'm not super deadset on trading Kyrou like others but this team does need young D a lot more than wingers.

they could and would get alot more for #1 pick than Kyrou + 19th