2024-2025 Blues Trade Proposals Thread.

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I think JR gets more grief from fans then deserved, but what he just put in the Athletic article went over my head.

NHL trade deadline 2025: Which player (or pick) each team is most likely to deal​


St. Louis Blues​

Zack Bolduc, RW

To be clear, I don’t think Bolduc will be traded before the deadline, or even this summer. But the Blues aren’t trading prospects Dalibor Dvorsky or Jimmy Snuggerud, and they don’t have many draft picks (only a first-rounder, a fifth and a sixth this year, and no seconds for the next three drafts). I don’t think the Blues want to move Bolduc, but he’s got potential and might be the player other clubs are asking about. It would make much more sense for the Blues to keep prospects such as Bolduc while the retool continues. — Jeremy Rutherford

The exercise from each pundit is to guess which player or pick is most likely to be traded. His first sentence is, I don't think Bolduc will be traded, now or in the summer. He further illustrates it makes more sense for the Blues to keep him.

I'm so confused.
Yeah, if it was a pick a dark horse to be traded or make a bold prediction, I could see it. I could absolutely see Bolduc being used if we pursue some young NHL player that is more advanced, someone in that 23-25 age range. But, for a most likely, just put Suter or Faksa and call it a day.
 
I think JR gets more grief from fans then deserved, but what he just put in the Athletic article went over my head.

NHL trade deadline 2025: Which player (or pick) each team is most likely to deal​


St. Louis Blues​

Zack Bolduc, RW

To be clear, I don’t think Bolduc will be traded before the deadline, or even this summer. But the Blues aren’t trading prospects Dalibor Dvorsky or Jimmy Snuggerud, and they don’t have many draft picks (only a first-rounder, a fifth and a sixth this year, and no seconds for the next three drafts). I don’t think the Blues want to move Bolduc, but he’s got potential and might be the player other clubs are asking about. It would make much more sense for the Blues to keep prospects such as Bolduc while the retool continues. — Jeremy Rutherford

The exercise from each pundit is to guess which player or pick is most likely to be traded. His first sentence is, I don't think Bolduc will be traded, now or in the summer. He further illustrates it makes more sense for the Blues to keep him.

I'm so confused.

I don’t see why trading Bolduc is this crazy thought. He’s always been the one prospect I could see Doug moving in a package for an upgrade.
 
I don’t see why trading Bolduc is this crazy thought. He’s always been the one prospect I could see Doug moving in a package for an upgrade.
That's not the issue. It's that the point of the article was, who is the player most likely to be traded, and this was his first sentence. He's clearly saying he doesn't think it's likely that Bolduc is going to be traded.

To be clear, I don’t think Bolduc will be traded before the deadline, or even this summer.
 
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By nature, I'm 100% not a conspiracy theorist, but something last night caught my ear. Did anyone listen to the postgame interview with Schenn? It was weird that near the end of the interview he said, and I'm paraphrasing a bit as I don't remember the exact words: "I wanted to say thanks for the way you have always treated me". Almost as if he expected that he might get moved. Also, could just be that they were complimentary of his dad with him having the opportunity to announce the lineups. Who knows, but it just struck me as odd. Probably nothing, but curious if anyone else heard the interview.
Well...it was his 1000th game played in the NHL, so it probably had something to do with that.
 
I think JR gets more grief from fans then deserved, but what he just put in the Athletic article went over my head.

NHL trade deadline 2025: Which player (or pick) each team is most likely to deal​


St. Louis Blues​

Zack Bolduc, RW

To be clear, I don’t think Bolduc will be traded before the deadline, or even this summer. But the Blues aren’t trading prospects Dalibor Dvorsky or Jimmy Snuggerud, and they don’t have many draft picks (only a first-rounder, a fifth and a sixth this year, and no seconds for the next three drafts). I don’t think the Blues want to move Bolduc, but he’s got potential and might be the player other clubs are asking about. It would make much more sense for the Blues to keep prospects such as Bolduc while the retool continues. — Jeremy Rutherford

The exercise from each pundit is to guess which player or pick is most likely to be traded. His first sentence is, I don't think Bolduc will be traded, now or in the summer. He further illustrates it makes more sense for the Blues to keep him.


I'm so confused.

I get where he's coming from in this, but it's going to put out a notion that the Blues are looking to move him, not he may be available if a piece positionally the Blues need more becomes available.

The italicized part is A+ journalism :laugh: Pick a flashier name for an exercise that's a bit out of left field, then walk back on now I don't think it's something that's going to happen, but it could, but it probably would, but I'd sure be suprised.
 
That's not the issue. It's that the point of the article was, who is the player most likely to be traded, and this was his first sentence. He's clearly saying he doesn't think it's likely that Bolduc is going to be traded.

I wish he’d stay away from anything trade wise, and just stick to the few things he’s actually good at.
 
The Athletic: Hey JR, can you do an article for the player you think the Blues are mostly likely to trade at the deadline?

JR: Absolutely, I got just the player in mind.

The Athletic: Great, put something together, we need it out in a few days.

JR: Sure thing, it'll be Bolduc, but I don't think the Blues will trade him at the deadline or over the summer.

The Athletic: Wait, what?
 
Interesting that JR’s guess is more of a buying scenario than a selling scenario.

it’s pretty trendy/easy to … fire off a conservative guess at the team selling a veteran at the deadline - you’ve got the support of tsn and sportsnets trade bait boards. Takes a little more cohones to go against the grain and guess a buy.
 
The Athletic: Hey JR, can you do an article for the player you think the Blues are mostly likely to trade at the deadline?

JR: Absolutely, I got just the player in mind.

The Athletic: Great, put something together, we need it out in a few days.

JR: Sure thing, it'll be Bolduc, but I don't think the Blues will trade him at the deadline or over the summer.

The Athletic: Wait, what?

yeah... still confused
 
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I get where he's coming from in this, but it's going to put out a notion that the Blues are looking to move him, not he may be available if a piece positionally the Blues need more becomes available.

The italicized part is A+ journalism :laugh: Pick a flashier name for an exercise that's a bit out of left field, then walk back on now I don't think it's something that's going to happen, but it could, but it probably would, but I'd sure be suprised.
You do? Because I still don’t.

That’s one of the worst pieces of journalism I’ve ever seen. At the very least, he could have explained how the Blues need a center more than a winger and how Bolduc could be used in a package for that or something, but he couldn’t even muster up the tiniest bit of logic to justify his own selection.

Man, it must be nice to be JR and get paid for his job because it looks super easy.
 
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You do? Because I still don’t.

That’s one of the worst pieces of journalism I’ve ever seen. At the very least, he could have explained how the Blues need a center more than a winger and how Bolduc could be used in a package for that or something, but he couldn’t even muster up the tiniest bit of logic to justify his own selection.

Man, it must be nice to be JR and get paid for his job because it looks super easy.

I take it as a if there’s a player/prospect in a similar situation that better fits their needs Bolduc could be on the move.
 
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You do? Because I still don’t.

That’s one of the worst pieces of journalism I’ve ever seen. At the very least, he could have explained how the Blues need a center more than a winger and how Bolduc could be used in a package for that or something, but he couldn’t even muster up the tiniest bit of logic to justify his own selection.

Man, it must be nice to be JR and get paid for his job because it looks super easy.

It's not easy. It's just that journalism is no longer about how good, accurate, in-depth the content is. And it's not news or analysis, it's content. Just like a Tik toker. What's important is how much traffic you can drive. The headline is more important than the story. "Most likely to be traded: Zach Boluc." Subscribe to find out why
 
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It's not easy. It's just that journalism is no longer about how good, accurate, in-depth the content is. And it's not news or analysis, it's content. Just like a Tik toker. What's important us how much traffic you can drive. The headline is more important than the story. "Most likely to be traded: Zach Boluc." Subscribe to find out why
It's a damn shame, too.
 
You do? Because I still don’t.

That’s one of the worst pieces of journalism I’ve ever seen. At the very least, he could have explained how the Blues need a center more than a winger and how Bolduc could be used in a package for that or something, but he couldn’t even muster up the tiniest bit of logic to justify his own selection.

Man, it must be nice to be JR and get paid for his job because it looks super easy.
The thing that always jumps out to me is that JR has all the information to make a good decision, then writes another head scratcher. Strickland can be like that some as well, but not to the extent of JR’s fever dream musings.
 
Imma give JR the benefit of the doubt (for no good reason)


Perhaps jr has been informed we’re big game hunting. Perhaps it’s just…irresponsible or hurts the process if he were to elaborate. Seems easy to make stuff up. He didn’t, that’s interesting.
 
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Nah, I don't support JR anymore. I'm tired of his lazy reporting and I'm tired of him guessing on everything when he's supposed to be the beat reporter for this team. What good is he to the fans if he doesn't give them anything besides what we could already look up? I felt like a decade ago he was in a tough position because nothing really leaks from Armstrong but also he has to report on the team and the goings-ons. Now that he's "part of the boys" on 101ESPN, he has absolutely become even more lazy than before. Dude just says shit to say it. "Hey JR do you think this could be a potential or possibility?" - "Yea ya know I think it could and ya know it could help the Blues, but also I'm not sure if they want to do that right now, but maybe a guy like so-and-so..." Ok, sure JR, we can all shoot the shit and say what ifs and maybes but you're a professional and you give nothing to us.

I've been over Rutherford for a long time, but he's now become a nuisance to my mental any time I have to hear him pontificate about what the Blues may or may not do. Strickland might be worse because of how stupid his comments and tweets are. The guy thinks he's in the secret club and says things where he isn't even wrong, it's just completely out of left field and arbitrary to where his predictions or hints aren't even relevant to this team.
 
The biggest problem with JR has nothing to do with his reporting. He has no innate knowledge about the game. You can tell he was a guy who was put on the Blues beat during the onset of his career and just stayed and became a fan but he doesn’t KNOW hockey. You can tell this more obviously when he’s on long form radio. He just regurgitates things he hears in locker rooms or from sources but he’s not remotely interesting or thought provoking. He’s like a rich mans Jim Thomas.

Say what you want about Andy Strickland but he knows hockey. You can tell DeFranks probably grew up around the game or was a fan from early in life. I don’t think JR is a hack or anything like that but I never really respected his opinion so he’s never really been worth getting worked up over.
 
The biggest problem with JR has nothing to do with his reporting. He has no innate knowledge about the game. You can tell he was a guy who was put on the Blues beat during the onset of his career and just stayed and became a fan but he doesn’t KNOW hockey. You can tell this more obviously when he’s on long form radio. He just regurgitates things he hears in locker rooms or from sources but he’s not remotely interesting or thought provoking. He’s like a rich mans Jim Thomas.

Say what you want about Andy Strickland but he knows hockey. You can tell DeFranks probably grew up around the game or was a fan from early in life. I don’t think JR is a hack or anything like that but I never really respected his opinion so he’s never really been worth getting worked up over.

I checked out on JR for the Tarasenko stuff about how they have to move him for whatever they can get. It was a campaign he fed us without much from the other side.

So, from there, I began to believe he actually is a bit of a hack. And I unsubscribed largely due to that.
 
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I checked out on JR for the Tarasenko stuff about how they have to move him for whatever they can get. It was a campaign he fed us without much from the other side.

So, from there, I began to believe he actually is a bit of a hack. And I unsubscribed largely due to that.
Fair enough. I never subscribed to the Athletic and I’m sure he’s become click baity over time and thus more hackish as leaving the PD to basically run your own small business requires page views in his industry. But again, I never respected his opinion to begin with…
 
Fair enough. I never subscribed to the Athletic and I’m sure he’s become click baity over time and thus more hackish as leaving the PD to basically run your own small business requires page views in his industry. But again, I never respected his opinion to begin with…

Yeah, your core point about knowledge is valid too. At the PD he was, from my recollection, a pretty solid straightforward reporter of the news. That doesn’t necessarily need deep knowledge of the game, though it certainly helps.

He wasn’t able to do the deep dives at The Athletic that some of their other guys could do, and he seemed to lose access to information from the team over time too, for whatever reason, so that put him in quite a bind and induced what I am describing as hackery.
 
Yeah, your core point about knowledge is valid too. At the PD he was, from my recollection, a pretty solid straightforward reporter of the news. That doesn’t necessarily need deep knowledge of the game, though it certainly helps.

He wasn’t able to do the deep dives at The Athletic that some of their other guys could do, and he seemed to lose access to information from the team over time too, for whatever reason, so that put him in quite a bind and induced what I am describing as hackery.
Exactly. Like if I was a Wild fan I’d be much more inclined to subscribe to the Atheltic after Mike Russo left the Star Tribune because he’s not only a good writer but he’s keyed into the team and knowledgeable about not just the team he’s covering but also what’s going on leaguewide. It would be similar if I was a Cards fan and Derick Goold left the PD for the Athletic. Even Larry Brooks who some call a rumor monger and a hack is clearly a hockey guy and his knowledge of the ongoings in Ranger land is unmatched. Rutherford seems like a nice enough guy but he just never really had my respect on that level.
 
Imma give JR the benefit of the doubt (for no good reason)


Perhaps jr has been informed we’re big game hunting. Perhaps it’s just…irresponsible or hurts the process if he were to elaborate. Seems easy to make stuff up. He didn’t, that’s interesting.
I seriously doubt he has anyone inside giving him information these days.
 

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