2024-2025 Blues Trade Proposals Thread.

[Stupendous Yappi]

They have a couple young guys I’d like in Holloway and Bro…

…oh wait.

Maybe we can get our 3rd back.

 

[StlBigFly]

Zero chance Tarasenko would want to come back. Also no real reason to bring him back or entertain a move like this at all so no it would never happen

If you were the blues gm

And you knew tarasenko had no choice because Detroit told him that he’s being bought out if he doesn’t waive.

And Detroit said take him and also a 2025 second round pick for free, replacing the one for Hayes. You pay nothing except having to fit him in for 1 year.

Would you?

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

I don’t remember seeing you all talk about it:

What are thoughts on a deal with the wings where

They got something they wanted idk, binnington, Schenn, Kyrou, Toropchenko I don’t know, just something

And we ate tarasenko in order to juice the return, with the understanding we would rent him next trade deadline, or really asap - which prob is the tdl, if a market could be made for him.

Wonder if Tarasenko would come back, if we would have him back, what you all would think about that. I feel it’s a scenario that Detroit will have to pay to leave, and I’m in the business to be paid, so I could probably swallow it.

I am not following this at all. Tarasenko can come back to St Louis some day for a nice on-ice ceremony where we give him a lovely plaque signed by all the guys from the Cup team, maybe a Cup anniversary event. I'd cheer for him like crazy. But I can't see a scenario where this team is taking on a declining veteran player in a trade unless its dead salary coming back to offset the actual assets we obtain in a trade. Vlad probably still has some value to a playoff team as a supporting player.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

I love Binnington and I don't necessarily want to see him go, but it makes sense to trade him if the return is suitable. The Blues look to be farther from true contender status. I would enjoy rooting for him on a team like Carolina, or even Edmonton. If he managed to get a 2nd Cup on another team, that's a pretty big feather in his cap.

 

[StlBigFly]

I am not following this at all. Tarasenko can come back to St Louis some day for a nice on-ice ceremony where we give him a lovely plaque signed by all the guys from the Cup team, maybe a Cup anniversary event. I'd cheer for him like crazy. But I can't see a scenario where this team is taking on a declining veteran player in a trade unless it’s dead salary coming back to offset the actual assets we obtain in a trade. Vlad probably still has some value to a playoff team as a supporting player.

I think the scenario I’m considering is one where your last sentence is different; an environment where both Detroit wanted to dump him and had nobody eager to be their huckleberry. Nobody willing to give up the space.

His situation is Saad. He’s got a year and too much money for the performance.

I doubt tarasenko will void his deal. Surprised when Saad did it. Would be super surprised if tarasenko did it.

If we made a big list of ways to get draft picks, each list item will have a downside. I’m having a hard time evaluating the real cost of the downside here. It’s a year, which, how bad could it possibly be I guess?… then it’s done. Kinda like how the penguins took on Kevin hayes. Isn’t the apocalypse. Things could be better. Bet they’ll be happier about it on draft day.

 

[Reality Czech]

For reals?!? Thought it was obvious. First, I AM funny and so therefore the cut of my jib was most sincere. A fellow poster has included among their reasons “he’s a dick” for wanting Binnington off the team. Which is hysterical because this poster was a MMA fighter at one time who immediately runs to the mods when someone else says something they don’t like or challenges them on their posts or most likely their tone.

I threw the too many dicks on the dance floor reference out there because someone else had just posted a Flight of the Conchords clip. Also, it was fun typing dick a lot.

Ok I get it now. You're right it is funny.

 

[Drubilly]

Ok I get it now. You're right it is funny.

 

[StlBigFly]

Binner + Texier for Talbot + Tarasenko + 1st + 2nd + 3rd next year?

Detroit upgrades goalie for a few years, removes a depth chart problem and gets a guy to test in the situation that is cheaper. Detroit also gets to adjust their roster without impacting their prospects or core (besides goalie ofc). Just clean tidy work where they “dip out of a weak draft and use other means to improve the club by acquiring guys they control” from their perspective.

Blues get the value of a 2nd round pick for eating tarasenko, a 3rd round pick for Texier, for whom we paid a 4th, and a 1st for Binner while also giving us a guy back who is not as good but is a goalie. We draft 3 times within the top 60, hopefully once in the top 7 or so, hopefully twice by 25.

Or, if you don’t think that it’s worth a 2nd and 3rd I think that’s maybe the right answer. It’s such a juggling act. Constant downside management.

Actually. I’d want next years second; this years third. Probably would make Detroit happier too.

I’d be happy with one deal like this. Everybody else stays from the big trade perspective. It increases the chance our 1st is good, it moves a guy who doesn’t align with our timeline for a positive return, but it does encumber us with a guy who may become a problem, maybe won’t be the best in the room, maybe won’t be productive, maybe will take icetime that we’d like to give to other people, maybe injures himself and retires on Ltir, maybe we buy him out the very next day, idk. We’d probably have to commit to both playing him and trying to move him. Lots of possible bad that scares me. Wings may have to pay to eject him for a reason and that reason becomes our problem, but I think we’ll probably be happy about it on draft day.

 

[ScratchCatFever]

my father-in-law had a doctor named Richard Head
every time my wife took her dad to see him, I was laughing to myself for half the day
for real
either his parents were completely clueless or they had a world class sense of humor

My old man's freshman year health class teacher was Richard Rash.

 

[ScratchCatFever]

I love Binnington and I don't necessarily want to see him go, but it makes sense to trade him if the return is suitable. The Blues look to be farther from true contender status. I would enjoy rooting for him on a team like Carolina, or even Edmonton. If he managed to get a 2nd Cup on another team, that's a pretty big feather in his cap.

This is pretty much where I stand. I hate to trade the guy who brought us our first cup, but if there's a good return for him I'd have a hard time holding onto him for nostalgic purposes when he'll be nearing the end of his prime by the time we're ready to hopefully go on a run. It would also be pretty awesome to see him help bring another team a cup and cement his legacy in the game as a clutch netminder who once threw a water bottle at a goon who tried to end his career.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

If Boston Really wanted to turn it around they would trade for Binner. He is amazing in Boston.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

No, because he too is a dick. The Blues are not going to trade one dick for another dick. Too many dicks on the dance floor.

This reminds me of a festival in Chicago.

Boys Town is along Halsted and is only two blocks from homo-erotic-frat-bleacher-boys Wrigley Field where there is the annual Sausage Fest along Sheffield.

my father-in-law had a doctor named Richard Head
every time my wife took her dad to see him, I was laughing to myself for half the day
for real
either his parents were completely clueless or they had a world class sense of humor

I knew a guy named Dick Lord.

 

[TruBlueFan1970]

I love Binnington and I don't necessarily want to see him go, but it makes sense to trade him if the return is suitable. The Blues look to be farther from true contender status. I would enjoy rooting for him on a team like Carolina, or even Edmonton. If he managed to get a 2nd Cup on another team, that's a pretty big feather in his cap.

If a suitable return, I would root for him, but not in EDM. Under no circumstance do I ever want McCrybaby and Drai to get a cup. Binner might put them over the top, so that’s a non starter for me.

 

[BlueMed]

I love Binnington and I don't necessarily want to see him go, but it makes sense to trade him if the return is suitable. The Blues look to be farther from true contender status. I would enjoy rooting for him on a team like Carolina, or even Edmonton. If he managed to get a 2nd Cup on another team, that's a pretty big feather in his cap.

I would be surprised to see Binner finished his contract here. I think his main value is allowing Hofer to gradually increase his workload in proportion to his development. If Binner win's the IIHF championship this summer and then the Olympic gold with Canada next year in 2026, his value would be at an all-time high going into next year's trade deadline. That's when I would trade him.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

I would be surprised to see Binner finished his contract here. I think his main value is allowing Hofer to gradually increase his workload in proportion to his development. If Binner win's the IIHF championship this summer and then the Olympic gold with Canada next year in 2026, his value would be at an all-time high going into next year's trade deadline. That's when I would trade him.

Binner's value is currently at an all-time high, so sell asap. He may flounder in the Olympics, but we know for sure he won Canada the 4 Nations tournament.

I think now is the time to trade Binnington and Carolina appears to be a good partner. Philly? No.

 

[Mike Liut]

I’d take a 1st for Binner and Schenn. Neither fit our window and trading both would help our tank massively.

 

[BlueMed]

Binner's value is currently at an all-time high, so sell asap. He may flounder in the Olympics, but we know for sure he won Canada the 4 Nations tournament.

I think now is the time to trade Binnington and Carolina appears to be a good partner. Philly? No.

I'm not necessarily opposed, but the timing of the trade would have to take into consideration Hofer's development to some extent.

 

[Xerloris]

I just really don't care about any return for Binnington. He needs to stay a blue and retire as a 1 team player.

 

[MortiestOfMortys]

I think the fact that Army has traded a ton of picks (outside of our 1sts) for the next 3 drafts should tell you what he thinks about building this team back through the draft: he’s not really interested.

The offer sheets are a more realistic snapshot of what he’s after. Young guys who are 1-3 years from contributing, not 5-6.

If we trade Schenn, Binner, Kyrou, Buchy, or whoever, that’s gonna be what he expects to come back the other way, not draft picks. I suspect that’s why the press has called his prices “high.” He doesn’t want your magic beans, he wants the kid on your AHL squad that you don’t have room for on your pro roster right now. Or the kid you have playing in your bottom 6 because your roster is veteran-heavy.

Will he find a team willing to pay those prices, idk. Maybe he has to back down and just take picks back. But I don’t think there’s any indication that he’s starting at the standard “high pick and B prospect” thing.

 

[Mike Liut]

It MT is out for the year, I wonder if the Panthers would be interested in Schenn? And who interests you from their prospect pool?

 

[LGB]

I think we should hold onto Schenn until Dvorsky has established himself as an NHL player. The contract will be even easier for other teams to fit in with less term and the rising cap so unless he significantly declines whatever we can get now we should be able to get in a year or two. I think the hole it would leave in our lineup could hinder the progression of some of our young players.

 

[BleedBlue14]

I think we should hold onto Schenn until Dvorsky has established himself as an NHL player. The contract will be even easier for other teams to fit in with less term and the rising cap so unless he significantly declines whatever we can get now we should be able to get in a year or two. I think the hole it would leave in our lineup could hinder the progression of some of our young players.

We’d have to almost immediately replace him or get a center back that we’d want to see in the top 6. Veleno comes to mind for Detroit that would probably be a good replacement. I’m just not sure we’re going to be a big enough draw to grab one in UFA. Most of the guys that fit the mold are older. Granlund could be an option but I’m pretty sure he’s played himself into being able to pick where he wants to go depending on how he views money. Lots of need league wide for a 2/3C

 

[Mike Liut]

I think we should hold onto Schenn until Dvorsky has established himself as an NHL player. The contract will be even easier for other teams to fit in with less term and the rising cap so unless he significantly declines whatever we can get now we should be able to get in a year or two. I think the hole it would leave in our lineup could hinder the progression of some of our young players.

We are going to suck regardless next year. It’s the following year I’m ready to start making the turn.

 

[LGB]

We are going to suck regardless next year. It’s the following year I’m ready to start making the turn.

I think we could be good if we make the right moves. We should have a pretty solid top 6. Buch has been better recently and Snuggerud will be a nice addition. The question is just the defense. It will be possible to build a decent enough top 4 with Parayko and Broberg, but we'll need to acquire another quality top 4 guy.

 

[BleedBlue14]

We are going to suck regardless next year. It’s the following year I’m ready to start making the turn.

The issue about going into a season with only Thomas and Dvorsky and possibly a 4 C and Sunny isn’t about the team growth. It’s about development for all of the young guys. We have too many guys that we need to become regulars coming through next year and the year following that I would hate to be in a situation where we have to have Buch centering again, or we have to have Dvorsky at 2C.

AHL to NHL is a big big jump. AHL to being relied upon in the top 6 is a massive leap. Force him to be ready for that role instead of growing into it and you run a really big risk of him never being successful in that role.