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2024-2025 Blues Trade Proposals Thread.

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A Real Barn Burner said:
You’re right it’s probably moot both in the fact that young players like that aren’t traded often and that neither Nemec or Nieghbors is likely going anywhere.

However, in the interest of discussion the best I can think of is Derbincat who got a 1st (7th overall), a 2nd, and 3rd which is pretty comparable (if not more) to the Jirieck trade return. I think we can both agree Neighbors isn’t on the same level as Derbincat was then? Or even at his two year mark? Neighbors doesn’t drive the play on the third line when he is down there. Even with his net front scoring and physicality/shot blocking, he is a complimentary player since he can’t drive the offense on his own in comparison to someone like Derbincat . The best that can be said is he has a few more years of team control than Derbincat did when he was traded from the Hawks.

To your final point, a number 1 RHD is the hardest spot to fill in the league perhaps only short of a generational/elite center. Wingers even with Neighbors intangibles and one 27 goal season (Maybe two here this year) are a dime a dozen in comparison. It might be a gamble but if New Jersey is game then you take it. The fan base will come around eventually just like with Pronger.

I have no doubt that Jake has good value. Exactly how much I don’t know…perhaps someone better than I will find a comp. A passing thought, perhaps it doesn’t have bearing since it was so long ago, but Perron and Oshie were both traded for less value than the return you’re suggesting Neighbors has.
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Perron was 24 with a couple 20 goal seasons under his belt.

Oshie was 28.

A lot different if scenarios.

I understand Neighbors doesnt drive the play. But he’s still as flexible as they come and has a nearly 30 goal seasons under under his belt at 21.

If it were me, sure I’d take the gamble without having to answer to anyone.

However, I don’t think GMs with owners and fan bases to answer to would consider moving the player.
 
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Reality Czech said:
If Saad can't crack our lineup, I'm wondering if any contenders would even have a need for him.
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Maybe is kinda neighbors and Holloways fault.

We kinda blocked Saad from the places he would be valuable, then he has to either become a top line winger, a 4th liner, or a press box hero.

It’s tough that he has a year left. I bet he would be just fine in a middle winger role. I’m hoping his relatively small cap hit and our potential retain turn him into a bit of a unique value for a cap strapped team. I’d have to guess Saad for 2 million aav gives a team like Toronto or Edmonton the depth firepower some rumors say they want.
 
StlBigFly said:
Maybe is kinda neighbors and Holloways fault.

We kinda blocked Saad from the places he would be valuable, then he has to either become a top line winger, a 4th liner, or a press box hero.

It’s tough that he has a year left. I bet he would be just fine in a middle winger role. I’m hoping his relatively small cap hit and our potential retain turn him into a bit of a unique value for a cap strapped team. I’d have to guess Saad for 2 million aav gives a team like Toronto or Edmonton the depth firepower some rumors say they want.
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That's definitely one way to look at it. Another is that he was beat out for those spots because those players outplayed him. Regardless of where we are in the standings come the TDL I think he is on the way out. I am hoping some playoff team is going to look at his former playoff success and overpay a late 2nd for him.
 
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Blanick said:
That's definitely one way to look at it. Another is that he was beat out for those spots because those players outplayed him. Regardless of where we are in the standings come the TDL I think he is on the way out. I am hoping some playoff team is going to look at his former playoff success and overpay a late 2nd for him.
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Personally I think his value is closer to future considerations than a 2nd but hopefully some team will get desperate.

Saad is surely better than he's shown this season but I imagine there will be better options out there for teams looking to add a solid forward.
 
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Reality Czech said:
Personally I think his value is closer to future considerations than a 2nd but hopefully some team will get desperate.

Saad is surely better than he's shown this season but I imagine there will be better options out there for teams looking to add a solid forward.
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Nah.. he has a very well established career and the first few months of this season is the first real signs of a fall off. Someone will offer something for him, thinking he just needs a change of scenery. Plus his contract is not great but is far from a burden. If all else fails we hold on to him until the summer when people have some more money to spend after striking out on UFAs. I mean the guy did score 26 goals last season, someone will want to use up the last bit of tread on his tires for a playoff run.
 
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It looks like the team may be trying Holloway with Thomas - saw that on Reddit this am. If they’re doing that I think Saad gets icetime that is suited for him. It’s going to be way easier to trade him if he’s playing than if he isn’t and it will be nice to showcase him in the role that he does best at.
 
Snubbed4Vezina said:
Hopefully they'll be able to package a couple guys together to improve their return.
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I think the only guy who could be worth a 2nd is Leddy fully healthy, but if he were he'd also have value to us as well. Saad has torpedoed his own value this year, same with Toro having a very down year. Faksa is solid, but he is what he is. If you can't get him for a 3rd, I'm sure you could find someone comparable.

I think DA rides it out, which is just as well since our trade pieces are very bit players or guys who aren't making a good case for themselves.
 
sfvega said:
I think the only guy who could be worth a 2nd is Leddy fully healthy, but if he were he'd also have value to us as well. Saad has torpedoed his own value this year, same with Toro having a very down year. Faksa is solid, but he is what he is. If you can't get him for a 3rd, I'm sure you could find someone comparable.

I think DA rides it out, which is just as well since our trade pieces are very bit players or guys who aren't making a good case for themselves.
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Will Leddy be back before the trade deadline? There is no timetable for his return, and we are less than 7 weeks for the deadline. Even if he is back, will teams pay full price for a 33-year-old who missed 50+ games with a mysterious injury with a bunch of set-backs who has only played a few weeks and still has a whole extra year left on his contract? that's a lot of risk to take on.
 
Majorityof1 said:
Will Leddy be back before the trade deadline? There is no timetable for his return, and we are less than 7 weeks for the deadline. Even if he is back, will teams pay full price for a 33-year-old who missed 50+ games with a mysterious injury with a bunch of set-backs who has only played a few weeks and still has a whole extra year left on his contract? that's a lot of risk to take on.
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In a word, no.
 
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sfvega said:
I think the only guy who could be worth a 2nd is Leddy fully healthy, but if he were he'd also have value to us as well. Saad has torpedoed his own value this year, same with Toro having a very down year. Faksa is solid, but he is what he is. If you can't get him for a 3rd, I'm sure you could find someone comparable.

I think DA rides it out, which is just as well since our trade pieces are very bit players or guys who aren't making a good case for themselves.
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Even Faksa has slowed down way more than I expected. I knew he lost a step, but I didn’t know he lost 2.73 steps.
 
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