Kobe Armstrong
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Surin went #22 right after Hage. Sometimes I wonder how high he was on our list and if we would have taken him if Hage got picked ahead of Eiserman.
HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft -- Rate it, Love it or Hate it
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Whitesnake
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It never stops....Okay....so let's try this but let's make it more difficult....
Ben Merrill is terrible
Logan Sawyer is underperforming
Tyler Thorpe is just invisible
Note that there are players who are just off limits. And not worth my magic....Jack Smith...Luke Middlestadt.....Emmett Croteau...there's a freakin limit to any magic...
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Still early and hot take
But I think we will regret not taking Tomas Lavoie in the 3rd round. He found his offensive touch this year 6 goals and 20 pts in 21 games and still play a good defensive/physical game.
But I think we will regret not taking Tomas Lavoie in the 3rd round. He found his offensive touch this year 6 goals and 20 pts in 21 games and still play a good defensive/physical game.
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Gaylord Q Tinkledink
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You could literally question that with pretty much all of the Habs picks outside the first round.
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Beck? Hutson? Struble? Tuch? Fowler? Kapanen?
All taken after the first round.
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Yeah, but for that I forgot to add for 2024.
That draft kinda sucked and it makes it worse when you look at players you liked that went after a certain pick and they're doing better to way better.
Protz will never be a big score sheet guy, but he hurts people.
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For what it's worth, I thought Protz was one of the more impressive players at this past summer's rookie camp. He skates well, has good offensive instincts and skills and hits like a truck.
Any offence he can add will just be a bonus.,
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100%.
I just meant it more as the Habs scouting staff did a really shitty job this draft.
The ones outside of the 1st round that are doing ok are Thorpe, Protz and Sawyer.
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I would suggest that If you can secure more than one bona fide prospect past the first round, it’s been a good draft. It’s missing on your first round picks that undermine your franchise, whether your team is in the process of a re-build or attempting to build on or maintain an already established level of success.
While one may question some of the current regime’s personnel decisions, their drafting record has, at least to date, been insightful.
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You can argue Koivu and Bergqvist are doing well in the sense that they're both 18 year olds who spent most of their year so far playing in their country's top league in Liiga and SHL, respectively.
We thought they'd be playing on their U20 teams or at worst loaned to a second division team (Mestis & Allsvenskan). But they made their main rosters.
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Demidov is a HAB
Vecvanags made a bad decision for his playing time and development but outside of that i can't think of a pick that isn't doing reasonably well.
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Not a fan of playing in BCHL, for both Vecvanags and Merrill. I think they're both the most disappointing picks from the 2024 draft.
Merrill hasn't been drafted by a CHL team, so he pretty much had the BCHL if he wasn't going to Harvard.
If the CHL/NCAA agreement had been in place before the season, I think Vecvanags would stay in the Q. Because he clearly wants to go the college route. But personally would have preferred he was at AB.
Could he not have quit the BCHL and gone to Acadie-Bathurst as soom as the agreement was signed
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Yes he could as other players left the BCHL to join the CHL team that drafted them as soon as the CHL/NCAA agreement was official.
However, I don't know if AB would take him back after he left them to go to BCHL not long after they selected him in the Import Draft.
That's just a guess on my part, of course.
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When we analyse a draft, it's always about what our players are doing....vs..what other players should have been taken. Hindisght or not.
I will agree that needless to say, the 1st round could not hvae been better as evaluated right now. But....so much could have been done in the 2nd day. And OBVIOUSLY their values are not the same whether it's 3rd or 6th round. For example, Merrill is not doing good. Same for Khanin. Though I'll say this, in the 6th round, fine with me to take a specimen like Merrill. And he will do better year 2. For Khanin, I guess it was impossible to know based on his stats that the kid seemed to have reached a plateau already. But that's like to be another Trunev.
Thorpe for me is a dissapointment. As we see year in year out...a big body like that should be able to surf on that alone. Right now he's slightly ahead of last year but not that much. You have to hope that he concentrates on working on his speed to ever make it. But personnally, and it's the same with Vecvanags, I just had so many other names ahead of him. Colton Roberts on D though a ceiling not that high. Or....Luke Misa on talent alone. Poirier even if he would end up a Laval star.....I think we could have done much better in that round. BUT a big body that improves...it's not a big guess to take.
My issues with Protz-Sawyer-Koivu is the lack of a possible high ceiling. Maybe Sawyer has the best of them all in my opinion. But for those 3, for me, it's not entirely based on their own season rather than who I would have picked too. Needless to say I had none on my list. Ziemer, Mews, Protas, Wetsch, Marques...MY BOY MATEIKO, Mr. Pronoun Kevin He.....
I think we could have done much better...but we will know that in 5 years.
As far as what our boys are doing....round 1 is set, game and match. The rest....right now it's Thorpe, Protz and Bergqvist....I just believe right now, there's no steal at all in that 2nd day.
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Brazeau and Malenstyn didn't light the world on fire in their D+1/D+2 seasons. Usage also plays a role on production
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As of now it’s probably one of the least exciting 2nd days in quite a few years. Even drafts that yielded nothing and had one too many ‘Timmins’ picks would at least have a Vejdemo who had at least a whiff of being a steal.
I guess Thorpe was supposed to be that but has underperformed. But yeah I guess they were going for big role player types who could potentially fight for spots and be insurance types. Protz was intriguing though even with the low ceiling. He has pop to his game even if his upside is limited
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Khanin is getting yo-yoed all season so it's hard to say what's up with him, as he was almost a ppg in the VHL last year but this year he's all over the place. They put him in the KHL but refuse to put him on the ice other then a couple times where he would get around 1 min TOI. After a couple weeks of that he would be sent to juniors for a bit, other times he's in the VHL. I gave up trying to keep track of where he is.
Merrill is having one crazy ass season,
Thorpe is tall and has a wicked release and solid physical game but man does he have heavy feet which makes him look ever slower. I haven't seen a ton of him but for now i would lean towards letting him go back next year as an overager.
I liked what I saw from Bergqvist when he was the summer development camp, the skating needs some work but a nice gamble for a 7th rounder.
I haven't been overly impressed with the very little i've seen of Logan Sawyer, I never saw him before this season so when some suggested he should have done another year in the BCHL and gone to the NCAA next season, they might be right though he's with a top coach and good program but looks like he needs to bulk up a good bit.
Koivu is tough to get a read on since he's a 4th liner in Liiga, he's not like his dad though as the skill level just doesn't seem to be that high from the little i've seen. He's really small as well so he will need to bulk up a lot over the next few years.
For me after Demidov you could have just went home and called it a day but getting Hage to go with him could be massive for our future as he has impressed me a ton with his offensive skills. Once he fills out more, gets stronger and a little more compete when he doesn't have the puck, he could be a good one in time. Man can he skate.
Merrill is having one crazy ass season,
Thorpe is tall and has a wicked release and solid physical game but man does he have heavy feet which makes him look ever slower. I haven't seen a ton of him but for now i would lean towards letting him go back next year as an overager.
I liked what I saw from Bergqvist when he was the summer development camp, the skating needs some work but a nice gamble for a 7th rounder.
I haven't been overly impressed with the very little i've seen of Logan Sawyer, I never saw him before this season so when some suggested he should have done another year in the BCHL and gone to the NCAA next season, they might be right though he's with a top coach and good program but looks like he needs to bulk up a good bit.
Koivu is tough to get a read on since he's a 4th liner in Liiga, he's not like his dad though as the skill level just doesn't seem to be that high from the little i've seen. He's really small as well so he will need to bulk up a lot over the next few years.
For me after Demidov you could have just went home and called it a day but getting Hage to go with him could be massive for our future as he has impressed me a ton with his offensive skills. Once he fills out more, gets stronger and a little more compete when he doesn't have the puck, he could be a good one in time. Man can he skate.
I’d guess Hughes is trying to add size more than talent at this point. He doesn’t really need more skilled players, but a couple of big bottom 6 players would fit.
