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Ethan MartiniDalhousie University
Daniel MichaudQueen's University
Christian LoweTrinity Western University
Leon SommerTrinity Western University
Marc RichardUniversity of Prince Edward Island
Cade HayesUniversity of Saskatchewan
Keeton OakleyYork University
 

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Does anyone know if the bchl leaving HC will affect usports recruiting cause I know they're not allowed affiliates and idk about trades with cjhl teams
From what I read in the press release it will give more opportunities to players going to NCAA or CIS. A lot of CIS players come from the CHL or other Junion A leagues. I don't recall many from BCHL.
I think it's a good move based on what I've read.


Read this: https://thehockeynews.com/news/why-did-the-bchl-leave-hockey-canada
 
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From what I read in the press release it will give more opportunities to players going to NCAA or CIS. A lot of CIS players come from the CHL or other Junion A leagues. I don't recall many from BCHL.
I think it's a good move based on what I've read.


Read this: https://thehockeynews.com/news/why-did-the-bchl-leave-hockey-canada
It's a cash grab. Whether it's a good move depends on your perspective.

The BCHL has long been the best Tier II league in Canada, and produces the most NCAA players. That is without question. It is also the wealthiest, drawing good crowds in most markets.

It has not been a big producer for CIS, mainly because players go to the BCHL with their eyes on the NCAA. As you note, even the two CIS programs in BC get their Jr A players from elsewhere.

Its Hockey Canada affiliation has limited it to BC residents up the age of 18. By leaving Hockey Canada, it can now accept players from anywhere in Canada at any age.

So what, you say?

Imagine that you are a wealthy parent hoping to get your child an NCAA scholarship, and your child has been drafted into your local Jr A league (CCHL, for argument's sake). Right now your only option is to play for that team OR send them to a private hockey academy due to Hockey Canada restrictions. That's not a great choice for many parents, who may not like or trust the coaches of their Jr A team, and for whom private hockey academies are a poor substitute for Jr A.

Starting in September, a BCHL team could take your child at any age.

Do the math ... they will find top players, and fund those players with depth players from parents willing to pay for their child to play in the BCHL.

This is already the Cranbrook Bucks' business model ... it's pay-to-play.

I'm not here to judge whether this is good or bad. It just is.

But it essentially ends the BCHL as a source of CIS players.
 
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It's a cash grab. Whether it's a good move depends on your perspective.

The BCHL has long been the best Tier II league in Canada, and produces the most NCAA players. That is without question. It is also the wealthiest, drawing good crowds in most markets.

It has not been a big producer for CIS, mainly because players go to the BCHL with their eyes on the NCAA. As you note, even the two CIS programs in BC get their Jr A players from elsewhere.

Its Hockey Canada affiliation has limited it to BC residents up the age of 18. By leaving Hockey Canada, it can now accept players from anywhere in Canada at any age.

So what, you say?

Imagine that you are a wealthy parent hoping to get your child an NCAA scholarship, and your child has been drafted into your local Jr A league (CCHL, for argument's sake). Right now your only option is to play for that team OR send them to a private hockey academy due to Hockey Canada restrictions. That's not a great choice for many parents, who may not like or trust the coaches of their Jr A team, and for whom private hockey academies are a poor substitute for Jr A.

Starting in September, a BCHL team could take your child at any age.

Do the math ... they will find top players, and fund those players with depth players from parents willing to pay for their child to play in the BCHL.

This is already the Cranbrook Bucks' business model ... it's pay-to-play.

I'm not here to judge whether this is good or bad. It just is.

But it essentially ends the BCHL as a source of CIS players.
I agree with this.
That was kinda my 1st thought when I read it. Hockey is a business and if they think they can monetize this then they will. You mention rich parents and I agree again with you.
But, what about the poor parents who have a "gifted" son who is forced to play in a lesser league. Now he can play in the BCHL, go on to NCAA and be the next Power, Makar, Fantilli,
Like all fanbases, BCHL fans want to see the best product. They don't care that someone will not go to York. Most AUS teams are stocked with CHL players so their fanbase doesn't care.

While not a fan of the "pay-to-play" model, I think it's common at almost every level of minor hockey. As long as there are parents who think their kid is the next one there will be programs willing to take their money.

I like the BCHL decision because it's a little poke in the eye of HC. I'll withhold judgement for a year or so until I see the fallout from this.

As always, you bring a good argument to the table.
 
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I agree with this.
That was kinda my 1st thought when I read it. Hockey is a business and if they think they can monetize this then they will. You mention rich parents and I agree again with you.
But, what about the poor parents who have a "gifted" son who is forced to play in a lesser league. Now he can play in the BCHL, go on to NCAA and be the next Power, Makar, Fantilli,
Like all fanbases, BCHL fans want to see the best product. They don't care that someone will not go to York. Most AUS teams are stocked with CHL players so their fanbase doesn't care.

While not a fan of the "pay-to-play" model, I think it's common at almost every level of minor hockey. As long as there are parents who think their kid is the next one there will be programs willing to take their money.

I like the BCHL decision because it's a little poke in the eye of HC. I'll withhold judgement for a year or so until I see the fallout from this.

As always, you bring a good argument to the table.
The BCHL is kind of in competition with the US leagues. Those leagues have been an option for those unhappy with Junior A. Thunder Bay was once in the USHL.
 

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The BCHL is kind of in competition with the US leagues. Those leagues have been an option for those unhappy with Junior A. Thunder Bay was once in the USHL.
The USHL is the top Junior league in terms of NHL players who have gone thru the system. BCHL wants to be seen in the same light.
 
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4 on UBC and 2 on TW. Still more than you'd see in the AUS or OUA.
Queen's has a bunch. Kolton Cousins, Holden Katzalay, Trevor Longo and Nolan Hutcheson all played in the BCHL at one point late in their junior careers. Katzalay won OUA East Rookie of the Year in the 2021-22 season
 
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The USHL is not the development league it claims to be. Yes they have the MOST NCAA Commitments, but that's an illusion they foster by bringing those players to the USHL after they have already committed.
Exhibit A: Bodie Nobes (son of Kelly Nobes) earned a scholarship at Maine after playing for Stanstead College and the Ottawa Jr Senators. He committed to Maine while with Ottawa. A USHL team (Green Bay) then brought Nobes in for one season, and added him to their list of NCAA Commitments ... but they were not the team or league where he earned that commitment.
If you look at their American and Canadian players, you'll find a long list of NCAA Commitments who earned those elsewhere - especially from their HS or Prep Teams in the US - and were then brought in to a USHL team for a year of development. They are also buoyed by the US National Development Program, which is an All-Star Team of Draft-Eligible players that HAPPENS to play in the USHL.
The USHL is currently the fourth best Junior league in North America.
I believe the BCHL is trying to bring in top Canadian players at a younger age (16/17) and develop them for more years than the USHL currently does. Whether they succeed will be interesting to see. They could surpass the USHL in a few years if the top Canadian 16/17 year olds flock to BC.
 
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Queen's has a bunch. Kolton Cousins, Holden Katzalay, Trevor Longo and Nolan Hutcheson all played in the BCHL at one point late in their junior careers. Katzalay won OUA East Rookie of the Year in the 2021-22 season
Like most Jr A leagues in Canada, BCHL teams have a long history of bringing in Major Junior veterans to help them win. Katzalay, Longo, and Hutcheson all fit that bill. I am curious whether the BCHL will stop that practice, given that they are clearly focused on the NCAA and teams are no longer trying to win the Centennial Cup. It would not surprise me if they put in a rule banning ex-Major Junior players (i.e. those with no NCAA eligibility) given this quote from the BCHL CEO:

“We believe U18 players should have two development paths in Canada – Major Junior leading to the National Hockey League (NHL) being one and college-tracking junior leading to a US college and then the NHL being the other. Both are important. Both should be supported,” said BCHL CEO Chris Hebb.

The BCHL see themselves as an alternative to Major Junior, so I suspect that we've seen the last of players like Katzalay, Longo, and Hutcheson playing their 20 year old season in the BCHL before heading to USports.
 
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The USHL is not the development league it claims to be. Yes they have the MOST NCAA Commitments, but that's an illusion they foster by bringing those players to the USHL after they have already committed.
Exhibit A: Bodie Nobes (son of Kelly Nobes) earned a scholarship at Maine after playing for Stanstead College and the Ottawa Jr Senators. He committed to Maine while with Ottawa. A USHL team (Green Bay) then brought Nobes in for one season, and added him to their list of NCAA Commitments ... but they were not the team or league where he earned that commitment.
If you look at their American and Canadian players, you'll find a long list of NCAA Commitments who earned those elsewhere - especially from their HS or Prep Teams in the US - and were then brought in to a USHL team for a year of development. They are also buoyed by the US National Development Program, which is an All-Star Team of Draft-Eligible players that HAPPENS to play in the USHL.
The USHL is currently the fourth best Junior league in North America.
I believe the BCHL is trying to bring in top Canadian players at a younger age (16/17) and develop them for more years than the USHL currently does. Whether they succeed will be interesting to see. They could surpass the USHL in a few years if the top Canadian 16/17 year olds flock to BC.
I don't "follow" the USHL but I've seen what you're talking about regarding players who have already committed from prep school, etc. The USNDTP is a prime example.
 
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The USHL is not the development league it claims to be. Yes they have the MOST NCAA Commitments, but that's an illusion they foster by bringing those players to the USHL after they have already committed.
Exhibit A: Bodie Nobes (son of Kelly Nobes) earned a scholarship at Maine after playing for Stanstead College and the Ottawa Jr Senators. He committed to Maine while with Ottawa. A USHL team (Green Bay) then brought Nobes in for one season, and added him to their list of NCAA Commitments ... but they were not the team or league where he earned that commitment.
If you look at their American and Canadian players, you'll find a long list of NCAA Commitments who earned those elsewhere - especially from their HS or Prep Teams in the US - and were then brought in to a USHL team for a year of development. They are also buoyed by the US National Development Program, which is an All-Star Team of Draft-Eligible players that HAPPENS to play in the USHL.
The USHL is currently the fourth best Junior league in North America.
I believe the BCHL is trying to bring in top Canadian players at a younger age (16/17) and develop them for more years than the USHL currently does. Whether they succeed will be interesting to see. They could surpass the USHL in a few years if the top Canadian 16/17 year olds flock to BC.
Essentially many NCAA teams recruit drafted and undrafted players and then 'park' them with USHL teams. Rarely now do recruits directly advance from high school / prep school to the university teams unless they are really talented.
 

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Here are all the CIS LOIs since September.

Thomas CoutureAcadia University
Tyler DelineAcadia University
Ethan ErnstAcadia University
Matthew CorbisieroCarleton University
James MayotteCarleton University
Nikolas HurtubiseConcordia University
Loick DaigleConcordia University
Romain RodzinskiConcordia University
Charlie CampbellConcordia University
Vincent N. FredetteConcordia University
Nick ChenardDalhousie University
Alec BélangerDalhousie University
Dawson StairsDalhousie University
Ethan MartiniDalhousie University
Joseph SerpaDalhousie University
Vincent ScottMacEwan University
Samuel SimardMacEwan University
Zach GallantMcGill University
Julian RecineMcGill University
Charles-Antoine DumontMcGill University
Thomas BelzileMcGill University
Stephane Jr HuardMcGill University
John Logan CampOntario Tech University
Alexander DroverOntario Tech University
Antoine DesrochersOntario Tech University
Ben RoodeOntario Tech University
Samuel IvanovOntario Tech University
Derek HamiltonQueen's University
Nathan RibauQueen's University
Aidan SpoonerQueen's University
Sam MarburgQueen's University
Cole ShepardQueen's University
Daniel MichaudQueen's University
Cameron TolnaiQueen's University
Ethan KearneyRoyal Military College of Canada
Liam ServissRoyal Military College of Canada
Joseph Ingram-ChambersRoyal Military College of Canada
Evan JamiesonRoyal Military College of Canada
Dell WeltonRoyal Military College of Canada
Reid PerepelukTrinity Western University
Christian LoweTrinity Western University
Leon SommerTrinity Western University
Olivier AdamUniversité de Moncton
Marc-Antoine MercierUniversité de Moncton
Alex ArsenaultUniversité de Moncton
Yannic BastaracheUniversité de Moncton
Kaylen GauthierUniversité du Québec à Trois-Rivières
Zachary GravelUniversité du Québec à Trois-Rivières
Pier-Olivier RoyUniversité du Québec à Trois-Rivières
Anthony Munroe BoucherUniversité du Québec à Trois-Rivières
Xavier FilionUniversité du Québec à Trois-Rivières
Loris RafanomezantsoaUniversité du Québec à Trois-Rivières
William DumoulinUniversité du Québec à Trois-Rivières
Jérémy FontaineUniversité du Québec à Trois-Rivières
Edouard CournoyerUniversité du Québec à Trois-Rivières
William VeilletteUniversité du Québec à Trois-Rivières
Mavrick GauthierUniversité du Québec à Trois-Rivières
Charles BeaudoinUniversité du Québec à Trois-Rivières
Charles-Antoine LavalléeUniversité du Québec à Trois-Rivières
Owen WarehamUniversity of Manitoba
Andrew BoucherUniversity of Manitoba
Jacob LeGuerrierUniversity of Ottawa / Université d'Ottawa
Francesco LapennaUniversity of Ottawa / Université d'Ottawa
Anson McMasterUniversity of Ottawa / Université d'Ottawa
Vincent LabelleUniversity of Ottawa / Université d'Ottawa
Luka VerreaultUniversity of Ottawa / Université d'Ottawa
Joe RangerUniversity of Prince Edward Island
Yanic CrêteUniversity of Prince Edward Island
Chase LammiUniversity of Prince Edward Island
Noah SedoreUniversity of Prince Edward Island
Cole LarkinUniversity of Prince Edward Island
Cameron MortonUniversity of Prince Edward Island
Keiran GallantUniversity of Prince Edward Island
Josh CurrieUniversity of Prince Edward Island
Patrick LeBlancUniversity of Prince Edward Island
Ben McFarlaneUniversity of Prince Edward Island
Cade KowalskiUniversity of Prince Edward Island
Michael StubbsUniversity of Prince Edward Island
Marc RichardUniversity of Prince Edward Island
Ben TkachukUniversity of Saskatchewan
Mac GrossUniversity of Saskatchewan
Cade HayesUniversity of Saskatchewan
Reed JacobsonUniversity of Saskatchewan
Keaton SorensenUniversity of Saskatchewan
Raphael PelletierUniversity of Saskatchewan
Jordan FairlieUniversity of Toronto
Zack TerryUniversity of Toronto
Owen LuikUniversity of Toronto
Christian StevensUniversity of Toronto
Ryan MansfieldUniversity of Toronto
Dylan SchivesUniversity of Windsor
Nathan KellyUniversity of Windsor
Jacob BoucherUniversity of Windsor
Matteo LalamaWilfrid Laurier University
Isaac SooklalWilfrid Laurier University
Kallaway MercerWilfrid Laurier University
Matt TovellYork University
Lucas EagleYork University
Jacob VreugdenhilYork University
Keeton OakleyYork University
Logan HolmYork University
Ethan StrikYork University
 
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