HF Habs: 2023 NHL Draft part 2

[Kennerback]

Any team that pick Michkov will need the ok of there owner

Exactly, when Milbury overruled his amateur draft team who wanted Heatley then Gaborik to pick DiPietro he did it with Charles Wang’s blessing. Same when Garth Snowe went rogue he needed Wang to sign off on it.

 

[Garnet76]

If it’s true then they are wildly inconsistent. Sounds like Basu is doing the typical Habs PR spin for them already so they have excuses ready for picking an inferior prospect. I can’t believe we finally might have a chance at drafting a 1OA talent and we are going to pass based on politics.

For f***sakes, why did I choose this team as my favourite as a small child.

When I listen or read Basu's peices he sounds like he doesn't know a thing about what the Habs are going to do and is selling his own person opinion.

 

[Runner77]

If it’s true then they are wildly inconsistent. Sounds like Basu is doing the typical Habs PR spin for them already so they have excuses ready for picking an inferior prospect. I can’t believe we finally might have a chance at drafting a 1OA talent and we are going to pass based on politics.

For f***sakes, why did I choose this team as my favourite as a small child.

I know it doesn’t make it any better but if Michkov is the 2nd best talent in the draft, shouldn’t he be gone by the time the Habs’ turn to select comes up?

And if he isn’t, are those drafting teams ahead of the Habs, also picking inferior prospects?

What reality do all of those teams share that would have them do exactly what some pundits are claiming the Habs will do?

 

[SnapVirus]

Basu sucks. Gondin was the best and he is not there anymore.

 

[Michoulicious]

Basu sucks. Gondin was the best and he is not there anymore.

100% agree. Can't stand Basu talking for hours saying nothing. Cancelled my Athletic subscription the day Godin was fired.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Terrance really flashed playing at the U18s.. really really like his frame and skill-set.

Minnetian is also someone I ranked highly because I think he's poised for a breakout.

Terrance is a good kid. He’ll play in the NHL, he has enough skill, he has the frame (will only get bigger and stronger) and he’s got a great character. My boss is a family friend of his.

Hoping we draft him.

 

[Goldenhands]

Also don't forget his assessment of Wright's game long before his poor playoff performance. @Goldenhands is the man!

I just watched him from the start of the season and couldnt buy the hype. I hadnt watched Wright at 15 and didnt watch his u18 either though so I had 0 bias good or bad entering his draft year. I wanted him to show me what he was made of and tried to give him the benefit of the doubt after missing a full year due to COVID, but he failed to prove me he was worth a high pick. I criticized his flaws severely, but I think it was fully justified. Not sure if he lost his motivation at some point, COVID has been very rough for alot of people, but you just cant risk a 1st OV on a kid who showed so little drive in his draft year.

Thanks for the good words anyway, appreciated.

 

[Andrei79]

honestly, if you're correct, like you were about slaf, I will have to pay closer attention to what you say regarding the draft. especially if they go reinbacher.

He's been making very good calls for years on players who didn't have the hype here. Never succumbed to peer pressure as we would relentlessly try to make him drop his studs for our busts.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

The other thing about taking Reinbacher is that he, if he reaches his potential would put the D in a very nice place.

This draft has a lot of good forwards, so the Habs could take Reinbacher and then focus on forwards at 31, 37 and 69th.

I'm sure the Habs would want another 1st.

Musty is a guy who could go late teens, or in the 30s. He has some solid potential, at least EP seems to think so.

 

[Schooner Guy]

I know it doesn’t make it any better but if Michkov is the 2nd best talent in the draft, shouldn’t he be gone by the time the Habs’ turn to select comes up?

And if he isn’t, are those drafting teams ahead of the Habs, also picking inferior prospects?

What reality do all of those teams share that would have them do exactly what some pundits are claiming the Habs will do?

Also all the teams drafting early just made historic tank attempts in hopes for a small percent lottery shot at Bedard. Hilarious that anyone would think they'd now pass up on Michkov if he's the 2nd best prospect and far superior than what's left on the table after Bedard.

 

[BenchBrawl]

M.I.C.H.K.O.V.

In 10 years, it'll be obvious how right I was, and how wrong the others were.

 

[sheed36]

Maybe he has said that, I haven’t heard that myself, I’ve often heard him say what I wrote tho - and also around the combine and after draft lottery.

Either way, I think he means they are looking for a lot of things beyond just ‘talent’

You can read in the link below what Hughes had to say during his combine media availability, where the quote from that tweet came from, if you want to read it for yourself. Now what being most talented player really means to Hughes and the Habs scouts is another story.

Hughes: 'We're going to go with the most talented player' | Montréal Canadiens

The Habs' GM touched on the team's draft strategy, top prospects and more

www.nhl.com

 

[NotProkofievian]

Exactly this. Drouin has more talent than Brady Tkachuk. Who is the better player though?

Drouin does not have more talent than Brady Tkachuk. I've been calling Drouin a no talent bum for years and I've never worried for even a moment that it would blow up in my face.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Michkov is Drouin now? Complete nonsense.

 

[Pazucha]

Things are happening in Russia currently (Politically) could be nothing could be game changing in a week.

If it becomes something maybe Michkov stays in NA?

 

[ReHabs]

Drouin does not have more talent than Brady Tkachuk. I've been calling Drouin a no talent bum for years and I've never worried for even a moment that it would blow up in my face.

Indeed — just because he’s bad defensively and inconsistent doesn’t make him good offensively. He’s pretty damn bad in all directions.

 

[BenchBrawl]

@Vachon23

To respond to your comment on the Fantilli interview, I agree he looks like an impressive young man.

I'd still easily pick Michkov but Fantilli will be a good ambassador for the game if his career stays on a reasonable trajectory.

 

[HuGort]

Oversimplification. The ELC is not necessarily where you get all your saving. 2 years might be better depending on the case, depending on when in his ELC the player breaks out. The sooner you re-sign a player before he truly breaks out, the better. Imagine Caufield with one more year of ELC and he pops 50 next year. Do you really think we'd get him for under 8 mil then? Probably closer to 9-10 mil per. That 1-2 you save each year adds-up if you can sign long term before your best players pan out.

That extra 7 million a year in caproom right. Gives Habs an advantage. No way of knowing how many they will score another year. More chance he gets injured again than score 50.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Use a bigger font and they may listen to you.

No this is not a viable tactic, It doesn't work, trust me.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Things are happening in Russia currently (Politically) could be nothing could be game changing in a week.

If it becomes something maybe Michkov stays in NA?

Or he may go back to Russia and be unable to leave, conscripted, etc.

If teams were unsure about the risk before this could really muck things up further.

 

[HabbyGuy]

You know we're a week from the draft when dudes are coming in here saying guys ranked 6/7/8 are a reach at 5 lol.

I know right? It's like saying guys ranked 2/3/4 would be a reach at 1.

What's wrong with these dudes??

 

[BehindTheTimes]

I know it doesn’t make it any better but if Michkov is the 2nd best talent in the draft, shouldn’t he be gone by the time the Habs’ turn to select comes up?

And if he isn’t, are those drafting teams ahead of the Habs, also picking inferior prospects?

What reality do all of those teams share that would have them do exactly what some pundits are claiming the Habs will do?

They share backwards thinking, but getting Carlsson or Fantilli does offset the risk a bit. IMO Smith doesn’t. He is the most likely to not make an impact at the NHL level. Having said that, he’s a much better prospect than Leonard/Reinbacher imo.

These scouts make poor decisions on archaic information year after year. How many passed on Caufield? Who cares? it was obvious that caufield was an elite sniper, yet these bozos couldn’t get over his height. Same shit, different year. This doesn’t validate our decision to pass on him.
There is some risk with Michkov, for sure, but at a certain number the drop off in talent makes selecting him a no brainer. I think that drop off actually starts at 4 with Smith.

 

[26Mats]

They share backwards thinking, but getting Carlsson or Fantilli does offset the risk a bit. IMO Smith doesn’t. He is the most likely to not make an impact at the NHL level. Having said that, he’s a much better prospect than Leonard/Reinbacher imo.

These scouts make poor decisions on archaic information year after year. How many passed on Caufield? Who cares? it was obvious that caufield was an elite sniper, yet these bozos couldn’t get over his height. Same shit, different year. This doesn’t validate our decision to pass on him.
There is some risk with Michkov, for sure, but at a certain number the drop off in talent makes selecting him a no brainer. I think that drop off actually starts at 4 with Smith.

Will be interesting to see if San Jose actually passes on him...

And overall, Hughes doesn't strike me as conservative. He is the type to take chances, unless there are serious issues with the Russian factor. And, he may want size.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Will be interesting to see if San Jose actually passes on him...

And overall, Hughes doesn't strike me as conservative. He is the type to take chances, unless there are serious issues with the Russian factor. And, he may want size.

It’s not Hughes that scares me. It’s his boss.

 

[ReHabs]

Will be interesting to see if San Jose actually passes on him...

And overall, Hughes doesn't strike me as conservative. He is the type to take chances, unless there are serious issues with the Russian factor. And, he may want size.

Michkov isn’t the radical pick. Radical is the throwing BPA out the window and reaching for a prospect a clear tier below Michkov, based on some questionable risk analysis.