2023-24 Ted Lindsay Award finalists: Nikita Kucherov, Nathan MacKinnon, Auston Matthews

[RiverbottomChuck]

All of non-Leafs HF punching air right now.

Tbf it’s hard to keep punching the lame lifeless horse that is the Leafs.

 

[Realgud]

Matthews getting some serious love from the players. Damn, didn't expect this.

respect in the awards ballots

 

[Rob Brown]

Tbf it’s hard to keep punching the lame lifeless horse that is the Leafs.

Good one.

 

[pcruz]

McDavid missing out on this top 3, while Kucherov is there is bananas.

But, Crest La Vie.

 

[Zerotonine]

Yes, this trophy definitely means more than the Heart.

Hart*

 

[Rob Brown]

Hart*

You're correcting the wrong guy.

 

[Nadal On Clay]

Weird to vote for another winner then... pick someone new.

What's more likely is that they think it is very hard to score and 69 goals is an insane number.

There might have been a single vote difference between Matthews/McDavid... who knows.

100 assists is objectively harder to get than 69 goals.

 

[notbias]

100 assists is objectively harder to get than 69 goals.

2 players got 100 assists this year... how much harder is it?

"yes, but in the last X years, only X players have gotten 100 assists".

But this year 2 players got 100 assists... the gap between McDavid and Kuch was 0 assists.

The gap between Matthews and the next top goal scorer was 10+.

 

[pcruz]

100 assists is objectively harder to get than 69 goals.

Care to quantify that?

From your personal experience of doing both, of course.

 

[Monsieur Miz]

100 assists is objectively harder to get than 69 goals.

...how? If secondary assists didn't exist, sure.

 

[CanadienShark]

Matthews?

 

[Rpenny]

"The writers know better!"

I already know a ton of people are going to be upset.

I think the players respect goals a lot.

Would have had no issue with McDavid over Matthews.



It always has.



"I know more than the players"

When McDavid Won the Lindsey leaf fans said the Heart was more important then as expected--the Lindsey is more important

 

[Rob Brown]

Matthews?

You going to write a strongly worded letter to the NHLPA?

 

[LivingRentFree]

In what world was Matthews a better player than McDavid?

just like he was two years ago? A 69 goal scoring top 3 Selke nominee being voted for the Lindsay should not be surprising anybody. It’s a sham McDavid got a hart nomination over him too.

 

[notbias]

When McDavid Won the Lindsey leaf fans said the Heart was more important then as expected--the Lindsey is more important

Okay, well, that is not true.

The Lindsey is more important.

 

[CanadienShark]

You going to write a strongly worded letter to the NHLPA?

Sure, I'll do that if you come with a clever response instead of this.

 

[LivingRentFree]

100 assists is objectively harder to get than 69 goals.

Yeah it is so much harder, that two players did it this year .

Buddy is reaching hard here

 

[Rob Brown]

Sure, I'll do that if you come with a clever response instead of this.

Yeah, mine wasn't nearly as creative and original as the totally unexpected 'Matthews?' response of yours.

 

[LivingRentFree]

When McDavid Won the Lindsey leaf fans said the Heart was more important then as expected--the Lindsey is more important

Matthews has already won both, so your argument is pretty much just you arguing against yourself.

 

[CanadienShark]

Yeah, mine wasn't nearly as creative and original as the totally unexpected 'Matthews?' response of yours.

You forgot the laughing emoji. I wasn't trying to be clever. You were.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

players are bored at letting McDavid always get awards

 

[Rob Brown]

You forgot the laughing emoji. I wasn't trying to be clever. You were.

Maybe I was being genuine? You seem surprised and bothered by it, I figured you might want to complain directly to the source to get some answers.

 

[CanadienShark]

Maybe I was being genuine? You seem surprised and bothered by it, I figured you might want to complain directly to the source to get some answers.

Fun talk.

 

[Montreal Shadow]

I feel people are selling Matthews' season short, especially in light of Toronto's elimination. 69 goals while being nominated for the Selke is f***ing fantastic.

 

[Nadal On Clay]

2 players got 100 assists this year... how much harder is it?

"yes, but in the last X years, only X players have gotten 100 assists".

But this year 2 players got 100 assists... the gap between McDavid and Kuch was 0 assists.

The gap between Matthews and the next top goal scorer was 10+.

Care to quantify that?

From your personal experience of doing both, of course.

...how? If secondary assists didn't exist, sure.

Only 4 players have gotten 100 assists other than McDavid (Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, Kucherov) for a total of 14 times (11 by Gretzky)

9 players have scored 69 goals other than Matthews (Gretzky, Lemieux, Esposito, Hull, Mogilny, Selanne, Nicholls, Kurri, Bossy) for a total of 17 occurances.