2023-24 Senators Prospect Watch
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2XPRO31
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Just noticed Kevin Reidler is transferring to Penn State next year. It would be nice for him to get more games. He only had 5 starts this year
BondraTime
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He should for sure
Penn added a CHL overager who had a good year from thw Q who is the same age so I can see a ~50/50 split coming
BondraTime
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Montgomery did everything for the Sim goal
Cowan ices it with his 3rd empty net point of the series
Cowan ices it with his 3rd empty net point of the series
Sens of Anarchy
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Not to be confused with Eliasson. I figure they drafted both cause they didn't know which one was which.
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paywall here but we see the top 10 ranking of Sens prospects .. getting to 24/32 is surprising
I normally like the work McKeens does, but that's a pretty horrible ranking.
Sogaard may be dumped for nothing this summer if a team is willing to take a chance on him and pay him 1-way money to rebound in the AHL.
Crookshank is a Group 6 UFA and may not even be re-signed. Could carve out a career, but he's a waiver wire player with next to no value.
Bourgault isn't even a good AHLer player at age 22 and should be considered a massive longshot to ever make the league.
If those guys are top 10 prospects in our pool I have no idea how they ranked us 24th.
At #24, it is hard to imagine that there is 8 teams that actually have a worse set of prospects.
I would imagine that without Yak, we would be at #32.
Not sure when this list was compiled.
Feels like Sogaard & Crookshank are no longer prospects for us.
At this point, Yak & Meri are the only players on this list that I am pretty sure about having a future in the NHL. Certainly hopeful that a few more will push through but there is a lot of question marks on that list.
I like the recent signing of Ellinas and I think we will see him on this list very soon, if not already.
Still holding out hope for Guenette, Boucher & Pettersson but all 3 seem to be slipping away as legit prospects. Looking forward to the 25 draft and hopefully we have a handful of potential names to add to this list.
BondraTime
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Yak is a top ~30 prospect in the league, that will bring a prospect pool up when you considerer there are probably 6/7+ teams with 2+ top 30 prospects
Yeah, there's no way that at a minimum Ellinas, Montgomery and Sebrango aren't ahead of Sogaard.
Reidler, Nikitin and my late grandma would also rank ahead of Sogaard as goalies.
My made-up on the spot top 10, though I'm sure I'm missing a few obvious ones.
Yak
Leevi
Montgomery
Sebrango
Ellinas
Halliday
Andonovsky
Moore
Hoyt Stanley
Eliasson/Donovan
Yak
Leevi
Montgomery
Sebrango
Ellinas
Halliday
Andonovsky
Moore
Hoyt Stanley
Eliasson/Donovan
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Xspyrit
DJ Dorion
Angus turns 26 y/o in October, he's not a prospect anymore
I had high hopes for Sogaard before but he needs to drop here
Donovan looks doubftul as a depht D-man right now, is he really our 5th best prospect? And there is really 8 worse pools than ours?
I used to like Bourgault but 3 AHL seasons and he was not even 0.5 PPG. Look at depht NHL forwards, they have an history of AHL scoring.
Where is Luke Ellinas?
1- Carter Yakemchuk
2- Leevi Merilainen
3- Stephen Halliday
4- Luke Ellinas
5- Blake Montgomery
6- Tomas Hamara
7- Javon Moore
8- Owen Beckner
9- Matthew Andonovski
10- Donovan Sebrango
HM :
Jorian Donovan
Eerik Wallenius
Gabriel Eliasson
Maxence Guenette
Oskar Pettersson
Kevin Reidler
Hoyt Stanley
Mads Sogaard
Cole Reinhardt has also aged and is now 25 y/o. Jan Jenik turns 25 in September, no guarantee the Sens retain him. Daoust lost way too much development time and lacks size/strength to make it IMO. Guenette is 24 y/o now but I guess one of our best prospects...
I had high hopes for Sogaard before but he needs to drop here
Donovan looks doubftul as a depht D-man right now, is he really our 5th best prospect? And there is really 8 worse pools than ours?
I used to like Bourgault but 3 AHL seasons and he was not even 0.5 PPG. Look at depht NHL forwards, they have an history of AHL scoring.
Where is Luke Ellinas?
1- Carter Yakemchuk
2- Leevi Merilainen
3- Stephen Halliday
4- Luke Ellinas
5- Blake Montgomery
6- Tomas Hamara
7- Javon Moore
8- Owen Beckner
9- Matthew Andonovski
10- Donovan Sebrango
HM :
Jorian Donovan
Eerik Wallenius
Gabriel Eliasson
Maxence Guenette
Oskar Pettersson
Kevin Reidler
Hoyt Stanley
Mads Sogaard
Cole Reinhardt has also aged and is now 25 y/o. Jan Jenik turns 25 in September, no guarantee the Sens retain him. Daoust lost way too much development time and lacks size/strength to make it IMO. Guenette is 24 y/o now but I guess one of our best prospects...
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BigRig4
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What a depressing list lmao. There’s like two guys I could say confidently are NHLers at some point.
Xspyrit
DJ Dorion
Yeah, 2 guys and maybe another one or two if we're lucky
This was our Top-30 just 4 years ago, before the 2021 draft :
1- Tim Stutzle
2- Jake Sanderson
3- Drake Batherson
4- Josh Norris
5- Erik Brannstrom
6- Logan Brown
7- Jacob Bernard-Docker
8- Alex Formenton
9- Shane Pinto
10- Ridly Greig
11- Roby Jarventie
12- Rudolfs Balcers
13- Vitali Abramov
14- Joey Daccord
15- Lassi Thomson
16- Egor Sokolov
17- Tyler Kleven
18- Filip Chlapik
19- Mads Søgaard
20- Filip Gustavsson
21- Max Lajoie
22- Kevin Mandolese
23- Angus Crookshank
24- Maxence Guénette
25- Jonathan Davidsson
26- Leevi Merilainen
27- Jonny Tychonick
28- Philippe Daoust
29- Parker Kelly
30- Mark Kastelic
Ok sure, some guys graduated but how you could destroy such an incredible pool in just 4 years is beyond me (actually not even 3 years as it has been BAD for a while already. And to think there's still some that defended Dorion for so long.
I was on the record for saying there would be about 12 NHL players from that list and looks like I was spot on.
Stutzle, Sanderson, Batherson, Norris, Pinto, Greig, Daccord, Kleven, Gustavsson, Jacob Bernard-Docker, Kelly, Kastelic
And seriously, it could have been even better.
Formenton is not out of the NHL because of a lack of talent. Brannstrom and Balcers were good enough but just missed a bit of size/strength. Jarventie still has great potential but has been diminished by injuries. Sokolov just miss a bit of feet quickness. Chlapik IMO should have been a NHL player but IIRC he didn't want a lower role so he complained and preferred to be a star in an Euro league. Logan Brown is one of the most enigmatic and waste of talent players I have ever seen. Merilainen should be a good goalie in the NHL so that's a 13th
Our most disappoint "busts" were Logan Brown, Lassi Thomson, Mads Sogaard (although with a goalie you never know), Jonny Tychonick maybe. It was such an incredible pool. We had so much potential... I'm sure we'd still be in an incredible position if the sale happened in 2021 and DJ Dorion was replaced 3 years before.
Apparently Thomson might be coming back on a two-way:
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You never know right? Might just be an option along with Yakemchuk to buy the Sens some time with a cheap player until Jensen is 100%. He is only 24 yrs old entering his prime & would be on a cheap contract maybe even a two way so he could be sent down & we will have to replace Jensen & Zub eventually. He wasn't terrible but clearly wasn't ready either, maybe he is a late bloomer & Ott has a history of giving guys late in their careers a chance. It would be interesting if nothing else. haha
haha Kastelic at 30 & Kelly at 29 have done so much better with their careers than what 15 guys ahead of them, another indicator that these rankings can be so far off. Tychonic maybe? He was a terrible pick & we can say that about every pick that every team picked that didn't make it & every team has plenty of terrible prospects as we have had. Edm has had some terrible picks too over the yrs Yakopov (1st OA) & PoolParty (4th OA) come to mind but we have also been lucky with a few like Batherson, Pinto & Kleven.
This Ott team is young & some will hold their NHL positions for a few yrs yet which gives them some time to replenish the prospect pool a little. I expect that Yakemchuk, Merilainen & Halliday will eventually get promoted & hopefully the 2025 1st & if lucky a few other surprises.
Trading for Cozens & Zetterlund who are both young is also a shrewd way of prolonging the need for a good prospect pool. And if Staois can add sign or trade for another good player or young player or two this summer &/or during the season who will be here for a few yrs will also help offset the need for a prospect pool further giving it time to replenish, if they are not using up draft picks to do it. While it is obvious Dorion was a disaster it's not the end of the world either & Ott is still promoting a couple of players per yr from their prospect pool & hopefully continue to add to it each yr as well. Besides we can't change history so why bother complaining about it, let's move on & find ways to approve the roster & the pool & I think Staois is doing just that.
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Pretty low-risk move and looks like he had a decent year in Sweden. It probably won't amount to much but stranger things have happened.
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Lassi could potentially fill Davies role, if he doesn't return. I am pretty jaded on his NHL upside but there are tools that could at least make him a dangerous player in the AHL, and potentially one of the better PP goal-scorers from the point.
Is it worth it to return to NA for that? I'm not too sure. And while I barely watched any Belleville this year, it doesnt seem like we would be in a rush to move on from Davies. Not saying there isn't room for both, but also not sure I see huge incentive for Lassi.
Is it worth it to return to NA for that? I'm not too sure. And while I barely watched any Belleville this year, it doesnt seem like we would be in a rush to move on from Davies. Not saying there isn't room for both, but also not sure I see huge incentive for Lassi.
