2023-24 Senators Prospect Watch

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I watched most of the game. He did his job and the team won. It's nice to see him finish +2 with an assist, but those results were not the products of offence he generated.

I see a player who's been asked to play within a conservative team structure and is doing just that. He had a few opportunistic offensive flashes, but he's not taking risks the way he did last year.

He's +1 on a team that outscored their opponent 13-4 over 3 games.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

These are starting to hurt man.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

He's +1 on a team that outscored their opponent 13-4 over 3 games.

Yeah definition of a non factor lol.

While the guys we selected him
Over are the absolute star, alpha dogs on their team

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Yeah definition of a non factor lol.

While the guys we selected him
Over are the absolute star, alpha dogs on their team

Buium in the final 4. He is a big part of that team's success. 2g 3a +3 in 2 games in the NCAA tournament

 

[aragorn]

MSN

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Buium in the final 4. He is a big part of that team's success. 2g 3a +3 in 2 games in the NCAA tournament

But how tall is he?

 

[Icelevel]

But how tall is he?

Taller than Quinn Hughes

 

[BondraTime]

But how tall is he?

6’0 186 at the combine.

They wanted a RD, I don’t think there was much debate between the other guys, I think Yak was their only target

 

[Hun]

Yeah definition of a non factor lol.

While the guys we selected him
Over are the absolute star, alpha dogs on their team

alpha dogs in junior league have nothing to do with nhl lol

 

[Burrowsaurus]

6’0 186 at the combine.

They wanted a RD, I don’t think there was much debate between the other guys, I think Yak was their only target

I was being facetious with the height comment. But yeah you might be right. Seems like they had their top 3 ish and then Yakemchuk and Beaudoin lol

 

[Hale The Villain]

RD probably played a role in taking Yakemchuk, but his toughness and physicality might have been an even bigger factor in the selection.

He was really the only player in our range, besides maybe Silayev (but we don't draft out of Russia), that brought the size, physicality and PIMs our scouting staff demands.

You look through Don Boyd's draft history as head scout for the Jackets and you'll see he picked a player with high PIM totals with every single pick he had in the top 2 rounds from 2000-2005 (resulting in an absolutely terrible track record), and this continued last draft with Yakemchuk and Eliasson.

Just an overwhelming obsession with physicality and toughness that almost destroyed the Jackets franchise and will do significant harm to our future as well.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

alpha dogs in junior league have nothing to do with nhl lol

Pretty much every star player in the NHL was the guy in junior

 

[Hun]

Pretty much every star player in the NHL was the guy in junior

Nail Yakupov,?

 

[BondraTime]

Nail Yakupov,?

What does he have to do with anything, he wasn’t a star player in the NHL

He’s saying guys who are stars in the NHL were the stars in junior, not that every star on junior is a star in the NHL

There are tons of stars in juniors who aren’t stars in the NHL, but a lot more who weren’t stars in juniors (Which I’d say Yak is a star in the CHL)who aren’t stars in the NHL

Obviously being a star in junior has a much higher correlation to being a star in the NHL than not being a star in junior, that’s just common sense

 

[Hun]

What does he have to do with anything, he wasn’t a star player in the NHL

He’s saying guys who are stars in the NHL were the stars in junior, not that every star on junior is a star in the NHL

There are tons of stars in juniors who aren’t stars in the NHL, but a lot more who weren’t stars in juniors (Which I’d say Yak is a star in the ClHL)who aren’t stats in the NHL

you could just say, there are enough junior league stars who have achieved little in the NHL

 

[BondraTime]

you could just say, there are enough junior league stars who have achieved little in the NHL

You could, you could say that about guys who aren’t stars too, even more so.

That wasn’t what you were responding to though, you just just went on a completely different tangent.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Yakemchuk named to the WHL Eastern Conference 2nd All-Star team, which, as I understand it, means he is one of the 4 D in the WHL East with the prettiest hair

 

[Hun]

You could, you could say that about guys who aren’t stars too, even more so.

That wasn’t what you were responding to though, you just just went on a completely different tangent.

No problem. Zach Hyman

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

you could just say, there are enough junior league stars who have achieved little in the NHL

Not sure how you are arguing your side in this one other than just for the verbal diarrhea

 

[Hun]

Not sure how you are arguing your side in this one other than just for the verbal diarrhea

I can say the same about you.

 

[BondraTime]

No problem. Zach Hyman

I mean, I wasn’t looking for an outlier, of course there are guys who weren’t stars on junior who were in the NHL. It’s just something that has much, much, much less precedence.

Hyman was over 2ppg his last year in Junior A and had 54 points his last year in the NCAA

Hagel is the one who fits that bill this year.

Not sure what that has to do with anything though other than showing that of the top 50 scorers 1 wasn’t a star in junior (his 102 points was in overage year, but it was an overage year). It strengthens the position Burrowsauros was holding.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I can say the same about you.

You could but it would be more indefensible bs

 

[Hun]

I mean, I wasn’t looking for an outlier, of course there are guys who weren’t stars on junior who were in the NHL. It’s just something that has much, much, much less precedence.

Hyman was over 2ppg his last year in Junior A and had 54 points his last year in the NCAA

Hagel is the one who fits that bill this year.

Not sure what that has to do with anything though other than showing that of the top 50 scorers 1 wasn’t a star in junior (his 102 points was in overage year, but it was an overage year). It strengthens the position Burrowsauros was holding.

You're getting the cause and effect mixed up. The main thing is that good statistics in junior leagues in no way ensures a transition to the NHL.

 

[BondraTime]

You're getting the cause and effect mixed up. The main thing is that good statistics in junior leagues in no way ensures a transition to the NHL.

Man

That isn’t even what’s being discussed

Pretty much every star player in the NHL was the guy in junior

We are talking about a known quantity, stars in the NHL. Of those, 95+% were the “alpha” (the term used) guys on their teams and leagues. We aren’t saying that being a star in junior means you’ll have success in the NHL, that was just you misunderstanding things.