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Hun said:
No, that's not all of his skills. He had the best skill set of anyone left in the draft.
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If this is true he simply would have gotten more points at his age playing against people so much smaller and less skilled than him lol

Parekh (who I’m honestly not a massive fan of) and Dickinson each have nearly double amount of points as Yakemchuk.
 
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Hopeful these guys will make it sooner than later. At this point I think they have the most nhl potential. (There are a few others just below in potential imo.)

Montgomery-Halliday-Boucher

Elliasson/Nordberg-Yakemchuk

Merilainen

So 3 bottom 6 forwards(4th line?), 2 bottom 4 dmen and a quality backup. Fills a lot of holes with size if they work out.

The only real need left could be a top 6 sniper. Zetterlund gets a chance for now.
 
Icelevel said:
Hopeful these guys will make it sooner than later. At this point I think they have the most nhl potential. (There are a few others just below in potential imo.)

Montgomery-Halliday-Boucher

Elliasson/Nordberg-Yakemchuk

Merilainen

So 3 bottom 6 forwards(4th line?), 2 bottom 4 dmen and a quality backup. Fills a lot of holes with size if they work out.

The only real need left could be a top 6 sniper. Zetterlund gets a chance for now.
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I think there is a realistic scenario that Nordberg wouldn’t be signed to an ELC if he wasn’t already

3 seasons of play like Nordberg has shown thus far usually doesn’t get a contract, there hasn’t been much difference between him and Ben Roger.
 
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Burrowsaurus said:
If this is true he simply would have gotten more points at his age playing against people so much smaller and less skilled than him lol

Parekh (who I’m honestly not a massive fan of) and Dickinson each have nearly double amount of points as Yakemchuk.
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Internet scouting. lol
 
Hun said:
Internet scouting. lol
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I mean, what are you basing your opinions on?

I'm basing mine on watching he, and the other guys, before and after the draft

I'm more than open to changing my opinion when there is a solid argument with merit

I find it extremely, extremely hard to see how anyone could come to a different conclusion watching these guys over the past 2 seasons, without just saying "need to take the Sens scouts over your own eyes and the consensous opinions" ala Boucher/Roger/Nordberg/Thomson/etc.
 
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BondraTime said:
I think there is a realistic scenario that Nordberg wouldn’t be signed to an ELC if he wasn’t already

3 seasons of play like Nordberg has shown thus far usually doesn’t get a contract, there hasn’t been much difference between him and Ben Roger.
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I watch him too. I see changes in his game. I know that the changes are due to the recommendations of the Senators coaches. I know that he had an injury, and I'm not sure that he has recovered from it.
 
Hun said:
I watch him too. I see changes in his game. I know that the changes are due to the recommendations of the Senators coaches. I know that he had an injury, and I'm not sure that he has recovered from it.
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Sure, but none of that speaks to anything you have stated othed than saying "I see changes" and putting your opinion on what has happened
 
Hun said:
I watch him too. I see changes in his game. I know that the changes are due to the recommendations of the Senators coaches. I know that he had an injury, and I'm not sure that he has recovered from it.
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Worth nothing but at dev camp he looked like the second best d man theee after Stanley
 
Senator Stanley said:
I don't personally see decision making under pressure as a major concern with him. I'm sure there are blunders on his tape - even Jake Sanderson has some - but from what I've seen he has good instincts moving the puck in the defensive zone. And when he has time, he can make a great outlet pass. That's something that really stands out seeing him live.

Where I've seen him get into trouble is with pucks in tight areas (pucks in his feet, pucks between him and his stick), but I think that stems more from his coordination and agility issues. He's a tall guy, plays with a long stick, and doesn't move his feet particularly well. It's a recipe for awkwardness, and that awkwardness can get exposed with pressure (i.e. it's a physical limitation, not a mental one). You just have to hope that's something he can iron out as he grows into his body and develops.
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Decision making is not just with the puck its also position , gap, when to be aggressive when to back off.
If Yakemchuk's decision making in his own end combined with his advanced puck skills was good we would see better numbers defensively imo.
When he has time his skill can take over.
 
Hey Hun ... do you mind if I call you Hun? lol Have to like their performance this year. They suck compared to big brother Yakemchuk obviously
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#CHLStats: Saginaw's Zayne Parekh & London's Sam Dickinson rank among the Top-10 scoring defencemen since 2000 | Canadian Hockey League

With 90+ points in 2024-25, Zayne Parekh & Sam Dickinson placed themselves among the Top-10 scoring defencemen in the CHL since 2000.
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Having registered 90-plus points during the 2024-25 campaign, Saginaw Spirit defenceman Zayne Parekh (33G-74A in 61 GP) and London Knights blueliner Sam Dickinson (29G-62A in 55 GP) placed themselves among the Top-10 scoring defencemen in the Canadian Hockey League (CHL) in the 21st century (see complete list below).
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Specifically, with 107 points in 61 games this season, Parekh registered the highest point total by a defenceman in 23 years. His 107 points trail only Victoriaville Tigres (QMJHL) alumnus Danny Groulx (112 points) among rearguards in the CHL since the turn of the century (see complete list below). The Calgary Flames prospect is also the only defenceman to rank among the CHL’s top-10 scorers in a single season over the last 25 years – as his 107 points sat eighth among all skaters in the Western Hockey League (WHL), Ontario Hockey League (OHL), and Quebec Maritimes Junior Hockey League (QMJHL) in 2024-25.
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Meanwhile, with 91 points in 55 games played in 2024-25, Dickinson recorded the 10th highest point total by a defenceman since 2000 (see complete list below). The San Jose Sharks prospect also set a new London Knights single-season record for the most points (91) by a blueliner, surpassing the previous mark (87) that was held by Edmonton Oilers rearguard Evan Bouchard (2017-18) and Rick Corriveau (1990-91).
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Read the article and imagine Yakemchuk being in it. Maybe switch the names around ..
 
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BoardsofCanada said:
Undersized dmen at the NHL level, who are wizards with the puck like Lane Hutson, are amazing complimentary pieces. But what happens a year from now when Hutson's ELC is up and he wants 8 x 8 (maybe more) on his next deal? This will make him Montreal's number one. Again, sensational on the PP, but do you want a 5'9 160 pound D protecting a one goal lead late in the game? Quinn Hughes is an exception. But for the most part, it's rare for an undersized D to thrive at the NHL level.
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Hutson currently has the 14th best PPG among 20 y/o D-men in NHL history and 10 of them were in the 80's, he's going to break the bank, 9+

Very similar season to Quinn Hughes at 20 y/o, Hutson is already an elite offensive D-man (not just on the PP, he has the 14th most ESP among Ds), with the cap rising, you can afford and you SHOULD HAVE more than one D-man making money. Our defense for example is in good shape with Sanderson and Chabot, plus 2nd pair caliber more defensive oriented guys in Zub and Jensen. Unfortunately Jensen is getting there in age. I absolutely wish we drafted Cole Hutson instead of Gabriel freaking Eliasson 4 spots earlier, even if he is "only" 5'10

This team needs to start drafting for skill, speed and IQ. It is long OVERDUE.
 
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BoardsofCanada said:
Undersized dmen at the NHL level, who are wizards with the puck like Lane Hutson, are amazing complimentary pieces. But what happens a year from now when Hutson's ELC is up and he wants 8 x 8 (maybe more) on his next deal? This will make him Montreal's number one. Again, sensational on the PP, but do you want a 5'9 160 pound D protecting a one goal lead late in the game? Quinn Hughes is an exception. But for the most part, it's rare for an undersized D to thrive at the NHL level.
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3 of the top D in the NHL are under 6 ' and are not big builds

Makar
Hughes
Fox

Morrisey is 6'

Rare is accurate based on the Average size and the numbers over 6'

Not every under sized defenseman has what it takes to succeed but its kind of amazing what the elite guys (Hutson included) can do with their skating and IQ to come away with the puck and/or avoid trouble against much bigger stronger opponents .. Size and length are assets but so is skill, skating and IQ.
 
Sens of Anarchy said:
Decision making is not just with the puck its also position , gap, when to be aggressive when to back off.
If Yakemchuk's decision making in his own end combined with his advanced puck skills was good we would see better numbers defensively imo.
When he has time his skill can take over.
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I was responding specifically to this statement you made, "His decision making is questioned, particularly under pressure."
 
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