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2023-24 Senators Prospect Watch

From last night:

The Good:
-Yakemchuk pairing have shutout the Yager line in two straight games. And keep in mind, Yager is one of the best forwards in the CHL. I thought he was our the best forward at the WJC
- I think Yakemchuk has been on the ice for only one goal against this entire playoff.
- He showed some nice speed breaking up a 2 on 1 from behind At the 2:15 mark: Western Hockey League
- He defended well. At the beginning of the second period, he physically stopped a player coming down the boards, stripped him of the puck and started a breakout. It was beautiful.
-His skating looks good (or at least the best it has ever looked)

The Bad
- Dangles too much - He going to have focus on using his stickhandling to open up a shot lane rather beat the guy clean or just dump pucks in and go crash.

The Ugly
Calgary has problems scoring. If you can take that big line away, the rest won't give you much. You know it is bad Calgary, when the team is down one goal in the second and they abandon their structure to generate offense.
Calgary didn't get one power play
The feed

Have people got a chance to watch Dickinson in these playoffs? I am watching the Erie series here and there and got to watch the first period last night.
 
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Ouroboros said:
Is Leafs 6th rounder Noah Chadwick better than Yakemchuk? Worth thinking about.
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He's a total steal for the Leafs! Imagine the chaos when he leads Toronto to the cup, while Yakemchuk, Parekh, and Dickinson(in there late 20s by then) are riding an AHL bus, stuck playing Pokémon and dreaming of their past glory like sad Al Bundy, while we're still all screaming online about who was the best prospect.

But if you have been watching the series of London vs Erie, I think it would fair to ask, is 5th round pick Cam Allen better than Dickisnon? Because he has outplayed him by far.

Dickinson was brutal in the 1st period last night and was very reminiscent of his play in the WJC.
 
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Ouroboros said:
Is Leafs 6th rounder Noah Chadwick better than Yakemchuk? Worth thinking about.
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Tanner Molendyk Named A Finalist For Bill Hunter Memorial Trophy (Defenceman Of The Year) - Medicine Hat Tigers

Tanner Molendyk, Noah Chadwick, Luke Shipley, Tyson Jugnauth, Mazden Leslie and Viliam Kmec are finalists for the WHL Defenceman of the Year.
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Chadwick is one of 3 nominees in the eastern conference
There is always a 20 year old season for Yakemchuk if he goes back; Undrafted Kmec (21) is on the western conference list .,

OHL Coaches poll
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2024-25 OHL Coaches Poll Results - Ontario Hockey League

Rolling out results of the 2024-25 OHL Coaches Poll, highlighting top finishers from across the league.
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Best skater (all players)
Parekh / Dickinson tied for 3rd in the Western Conference
Best Shot (all players)
Parekh 3rd in the Western Conference
Best Stickhandler (all players)
Parekh tied 2nd in the Western Conference
Best Offensive Defenseman
Parekh 1st
Dickinson 2nd
Best Defensive Defenseman
Danforth 1st in the Eastern Conference
Andonovski 1st in the Western Conference
 
Dickinson has very, very easily been the best D in the playoffs I’ve watched so far

Impacting both ends of the ice every game, best player on the best team in the CHL and has been through the playoffs thus far from what I’ve watched
 
BondraTime said:
Dickinson has very, very easily been the best D in the playoffs I’ve watched so far

Impacting both ends of the ice every game, best player on the best team in the CHL and has been through the playoffs thus far from what I’ve watched
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You watched the Erie series? And did you watch the first period yesterday?
 
Sens in Process said:
You watched the Erie series? And did you watch the first period yesterday?
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I haven’t watched yesterdays game yet, watched the previous 5.

Not sure there is anything he could do aside from tossing 6 goals into his own net to take away him being the best player on the ice overall in the previous 5.

He’s impacted the game more th an any player I’ve seen through the first 2 weeks of the playoffs in the CHL, and I’ve watched quite a bit of 4 teams (Calgary, London, Moncton and Saginaw)

Desnoyers I’ve seen live in Moncton
the first 3 games is definitely close.
 
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BondraTime said:
I haven’t watched yesterdays game yet, watched the previous 5.

Not sure there is anything he could do aside from tossing 6 goals into his own net to take away him being the best player on the ice the previous 5.
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You must have gotten really lucky with your viewings, because he had two unforced errors that should have ended up in their net. I mean, they were terrible—basically the equivalent of tossing goals into his own net—and he was misfiring on nearly every pass. I didn’t think he was very good in Game 1 either. I skipped watching the first round, as it’s easier to evaluate a player when the competition is more balanced, not when your team is scoring seven goals a game.

The talent gap between Erie and London is insane. Despite Dickinson’s poor play, his team was moving the puck around like they were permanently on a power play. Cam Allen was an absolute standout and a key driver of the play, as was Barkey. I checked in on the game here and there because the Calgary game was choppy. I’d invite you to go back and watch the first period. I would love to hear alternative viewpoints.
 
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You must have gotten really lucky with your viewings, because he had two unforced errors that should have ended up in their net. I mean, they were terrible—basically the equivalent of tossing goals into his own net—and he was misfiring on nearly every pass. I didn’t think he was very good in Game 1 either. I skipped watching the first round, as it’s easier to evaluate a player when the competition is more balanced, not when your team is scoring seven goals a game.

The talent gap between Erie and London is insane. Despite Dickinson’s poor play, his team was moving the puck around like they were permanently on a power play. Cam Allen was an absolute standout and a key driver of the play, as was Barkey. I checked in on the game here and there because the Calgary game was choppy. I’d invite you to go back and watch the first period. I would love to hear alternative viewpoints.
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I mean I watched the entirety of each game, I don’t think it’s lucky viewings, I just view and evaluate the player extremely, extremely different than you do
 
BondraTime said:
I mean I watched the entirety of each game, I don’t think it’s lucky viewings, I just view and evaluate the player extremely, extremely different than you do
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Point taken, that is precisely why I wish you could of seen the game - it would have been interesting to get a totally different perspective. Like if we all are watching the same tournament, we are dealing with the same event. Maybe I am missing something about this player?
 
Sens in Process said:
Point taken, that is precisely why I wish you could of seen the game - it would have been interesting to get a totally different perspective. Like if we all are watching the same tournament, we are dealing with the same event. Maybe I am missing something about this player?
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I’m not sure you’re missing anything with the player, we all have biases that effect our viewings, and we all have a different level of understanding (I’m not saying I have more or you have less or vice versa, whatsoever. Not in the slightest). We are just coming to different conclusions based on the same stuff we are watching, happens with scouts all the time. People see different things in the same games all the time.

Different people are going to see different things. Different people looking for different things are going to have different outcomes and different viewpoints.

Usually someone with a negative bias already is going to look for those confirmations for a negative bias. Those with a positive bias are going to look for things for confirmation on those positive biases.

It’s not too surprising I’m seeing more positive than negatives in Dickinson, and the opposite for yourself, they were both strong feelings held prior to the draft among both of us.

Likewise with Yak, you’re seeing a lot more positives than me, I’m seeing more negatives, you had a very positive feeling pre draft and I had lukewarm at best pre draft.
 
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BondraTime said:
I’m not sure you’re missing anything with the player, we all have biases that effect our viewings, and we all have a different level of understanding (I’m not saying I have more or you have less or vice versa, whatsoever. Not in the slightest). We are just coming to different conclusions based on the same stuff we are watching, happens with scouts all the time. People see different things in the same games all the time.

Different people are going to see different things. Different people looking for different things are going to have different outcomes and different viewpoints.

Usually someone with a negative bias already is going to look for those confirmations for a negative bias. Those with a positive bias are going to look for things for confirmation on those positive biases.

It’s not too surprising I’m seeing more positive than negatives in Dickinson, and the opposite for yourself, they were both strong feelings held prior to the draft among both of us.

Likewise with Yak, you’re seeing a lot more positives than me, I’m seeing more negatives, you had a very positive feeling pre draft and I had lukewarm at best pre draft.
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It is a good post, but if you look at the London Knights board and see there reviews of the game - this what you get. This guy is a London knights fan, who wants Dickinson benched. No one is countering him, arguing that Dickinson hasn't been awful in this series. They all accept it. They just think he is being over the top. I agree with that.

Like you said, we all have biases, but somethings are pretty obvious. When Hamonic has several turnovers in a game, we can all agree that he played bad.

My argument has always been, when the structure and intensity get ramped up - Dickinson will fold. This guy in the post below may totally disagree with my perspective, but it hard to argue that Dickinson hasn't been a roller coaster in this series and on this, the poster and I agree.

Yet, I think it exposes a fatal flaw with his hockey sense and the poster probably doesn't. It is those parts that are debatable. I think most observers would agree that Yakemchuk has been really solid defensively in these playoffs, possibly the team’s best defensive defenseman , and has shown composure in his own end, playing against a far superior team in the second round. Now maybe people don't think his offense will translate to the NHL and I think that is fair.

Dickinson has been worse than Parekh against Erie, because at least Parekh created stuff while being a rollercoaster. Erie is not a talented team and virtually everyone else on London is dominating. Like I said before, Cam Allen has been brilliant.

Knights77 said:
Next game I would dress Aboflan, Spencer and Fagan. Scratch Reid, Fimis and Dickinson.
It’s not that Dickinson is not playing that well, he is a liability. Nevermind no offence….hes giving the puck away almost every other shift, no physicality….maybe something is wrong, he’s sick, he’s hurt, I don’t know but he is a shadow of his regular season self. It’s painful to watch.
And this series won’t go past 4 games. Erie can’t match the depth of London. Doesn’t it feel like London has another gear and yet games like this they’re up 5-2 after 2….and Erie is getting a bit of help from the refs too, still not enough.
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Knights77 said:
He was amazing during the season. Round 1 he was very good. Have you watched this series? Obviously not. He’s been awful. Terrible. A liability. How many points does he have this series? Has there been OT? No. He’s a give away machine and needs to turn it around. Watch him. You’ll see.
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The WHL games I watch are way more structured than the OHL; the amount open ice in SAG v. Erie or London v. Erie in these playoffs is surprising and is not what I am used to, watching teams like Calgary, Lethbridge, Edmonton, etc.
 
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