Boston Bruins 2023-24 Roster and Salary Cap Discussion XII: The sky is falling!

[smithformeragent]

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[shelbysdad]

Maybe we should change this to The Sky Has Fallen.....

 

[smithformeragent]

Maybe we should change this to The Sky Has Fallen.....

I have written what I have written.

 

[JCRO]

it’s going to be a long work week

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

I have written what I have written.

 

[JAD]

@shelbysdad ... response from previous thread.


Sure you could throw the kids out there, but a 180/185 pound player getting hit by a 210/220 pound defenseman isn't going to hold up to well. Giving them time to add an additional 10 - 15 pounds of muscle/core strength goes a long way towards their ability to handle the contact. Men, as a rule, continue to develop muscle well into their 20s, especially the early 20s. Yes, there are exceptions such as an 18 or old Lucci, but that is an exception. They took a chance with Poitras because he earned himself a spot. It was a very unfortunate point of impact hit that caused his shoulder injury. But that is the risk. They may be a little gun shy risking another higher level prospect ahead of schedule.

I have no problem if a playoff team trades picks for an established player, especially if it helps the current team. As you had stated picks tend to take 3 - 5 yrs to make an impact on a team , if ever.

 

[xjoeyc23x]

I think we will have a lot more clarity after the Oilers game.

 

[shelbysdad]

@shelbysdad ... response from previous thread.


Sure you could throw the kids out there, but a 180/185 pound player getting hit by a 210/220 pound defenseman isn't going to hold up to well. Giving them time to add an additional 10 - 15 pounds of muscle/core strength goes a long way towards their ability to handle the contact. Men, as a rule, continue to develop muscle well into their 20s, especially the early 20s. Yes, there are exceptions such as an 18 or old Lucci, but that is an exception. They took a chance with Poitras because he earned himself a spot. It was a very unfortunate point of impact hit that caused his shoulder injury. But that is the risk. They may be a little gun shy risking another higher level prospect ahead of schedule.

I have no problem if a playoff team trades picks for an established player, especially if it helps the current team. As you had stated picks tend to take 3 - 5 yrs to make an impact on a team , if ever.

Is overall, AHL considered a nastier , dirtier league just due to players trying to make an impression ? I have no clue is why I ask....which has more cheap shots

 

[sarge88]

it’s going to be a long work week

In August we’ll be longing for a week like this on here.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

I think we will have a lot more clarity after the Oilers game.

I think after tomorrow

 

[TCB]

I think we will have a lot more clarity after the Oilers game.

 

[duffy]

I think we will have a lot more clarity after the Oilers game.

I think getting embarrassed by non playoff teams is all the clarity we need! Let's get thru the deadline without giving away any more futures and see how we fair in the POs.

 

[WickedWitch74]

Team needs a shake-up. Trade a couple of roster players (74 and maybe 35), call up a rookie and hope for lightning in a bottle (Lysell), then roll with what you have.

 

[goldnblack]

We were trading Pasta in the previous edition of this thread. I don't want that to get lost in the swap

 

[UncleRico]

In August we’ll be longing for a week like this on here.

Very true haha

 

[Oates2Neely]

@sarge88 “
Two reasons….

1. They can trade for a Carlo replacement
2. They can sign a Carlo replacement via FA

Now, maybe the better play is to move Lindholm if Hanifin comes here….but Carlo might be easier to move b/c of Contract.”
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Okay but WHO is your Carlo replacement? It’s easy to say “Bergeron replacement, Krejci replacement, Carlo replacement…” but as we know it’s not as easy as it sounds. There’s a reason every fanbase is looking for solid right shot dmen. They’re rare. The Bruins have Carlo at a fair cap hit. Is he perfect? No. Is he serviceable at his cap hit? Yes. He gets sticks in passing lanes. He drives me nuts at times (last night for example), but I wouldn’t trade him unless we have a clear replacement in the cupboard.

 

[Over the volcano]

I think we will have a lot more clarity after the Oilers game.

Think DeBrusk brings his suitcase to that game?

 

[sarge88]

@sarge88 “
Two reasons….

1. They can trade for a Carlo replacement
2. They can sign a Carlo replacement via FA

Now, maybe the better play is to move Lindholm if Hanifin comes here….but Carlo might be easier to move b/c of Contract.”
___________________________________

Okay but WHO is your Carlo replacement? It’s easy to say “Bergeron replacement, Krejci replacement, Carlo replacement…” but as we know it’s not as easy as it sounds. There’s a reason every fanbase is looking for solid right shot dmen. They’re rare. The Bruins have Carlo at a fair cap hit. Is he perfect? No. Is he serviceable at his cap hit? Yes. He gets sticks in passing lanes. He drives me nuts at times (last night for example), but I wouldn’t trade him unless we have a clear replacement in the cupboard.

I guess in this scenario, Hanifin would be his replacement (and an improvement) in the top 4.

Maybe they sign a Dumba to play PK and add some physicality.

Hanifin - McAvoy
Lindholm - Dumba
Lohrei - Wotherspoon/Regula

Then use Carlo to improve up front.

Again…not easy moves/decisions, but I think most of us agree that the back end needs some muscle next season.

 

[DKH]

@sarge88 “
Two reasons….

1. They can trade for a Carlo replacement
2. They can sign a Carlo replacement via FA

Now, maybe the better play is to move Lindholm if Hanifin comes here….but Carlo might be easier to move b/c of Contract.”
___________________________________

Okay but WHO is your Carlo replacement? It’s easy to say “Bergeron replacement, Krejci replacement, Carlo replacement…” but as we know it’s not as easy as it sounds. There’s a reason every fanbase is looking for solid right shot dmen. They’re rare. The Bruins have Carlo at a fair cap hit. Is he perfect? No. Is he serviceable at his cap hit? Yes. He gets sticks in passing lanes. He drives me nuts at times (last night for example), but I wouldn’t trade him unless we have a clear replacement in the cupboard.

Why not get rid of everyone since pretty much reading this thread they all suck and are soft

 

[sarge88]

Why not get rid of everyone since pretty much reading this thread they all suck and are soft

Depends on who we get for them.


Aside from Pasta, McAvoy and Swayman, I’d listen to any offer.

 

[TCB]

Why not get rid of everyone since pretty much reading this thread they all suck and are soft

Maybe not suck, but as the Great Larry Bird once said their playing like a bunch of "Sissie's" !

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I guess in this scenario, Hanifin would be his replacement (and an improvement) in the top 4.

Maybe they sign a Dumba to play PK and add some physicality.

Hanifin - McAvoy
Lindholm - Dumba
Lohrei - Wotherspoon/Regula

Then use Carlo to improve up front.

Again…not easy moves/decisions, but I think most of us agree that the back end needs some muscle next season.

Matt Dumba? Come on. We’d get worse. Carlo is incredibly underrated here.

 

[Oates2Neely]

I guess in this scenario, Hanifin would be his replacement (and an improvement) in the top 4.

Maybe they sign a Dumba to play PK and add some physicality.

Hanifin - McAvoy
Lindholm - Dumba
Lohrei - Wotherspoon/Regula

Then use Carlo to improve up front.

Again…not easy moves/decisions, but I think most of us agree that the back end needs some muscle next season.

Dumba sucks. No offense but that’s a terrible take

 

[TCB]

Depends on who we get for them.


Aside from Pasta, McAvoy and Swayman, I’d listen to any offer.

I’d trade Swayman depending on the offer. Especially with Ullmark signed but one of them needs to be bye - bye by next season

 

[sarge88]

Matt Dumba? Come on. We’d get worse. Carlo is incredibly underrated here.

Is there any player that has ever been suggested to come here that you haven’t said is terrible?

Have you watched this team play since about Jan. 1?

I don’t know what team you’ve been watching but I’m typically as optimistic as anyone on this board and even I can’t make a case for this team doing anything other than a first round exit.

Is Dumba as good as Carlo?

No…..but Hanifin is….much better!

In this scenario…which likely won’t happen anyway….with Carlo, Hanifin, Lohrei and Lindholm as the 2-5 defensemen….its waaay too soft, IMO.

So add Hanifin to upgrade on Carlo and sign Dumba or a similar guy to do the dirty work.