Boston Bruins 2023-24 Roster and Salary Cap Discussion IVX-post TDL

[HustleB]

When Maroon is healthy

Heinen Zacha Pastrnak
Marchand Coyle Debrusk
Maroon Frederic Geekie
Boqvist Beecher Brazeau

I agree with these lines. I think I have JVR playing a fair amount as well. Possibly more then Maroon. I think the bottom 6 will be juggled continuously with Brazeau having the most opportunity with skill but Boquist also getting a bit of opportunity as well.

Beecher meanwhile would have increased opportunity to play up while holding a lead. He’d be an obvious replacement for JVR or Maroon in those situations and I think he pushes Geekie to the wing in these tight games holding leads.

 

[Troublesome 85]

Luke Schenn is someone id love on the Bruins Brayden too

 

[Hookslide]

When Maroon is healthy

Heinen Zacha Pastrnak
Marchand Coyle Debrusk
Maroon Frederic Geekie
Boqvist Beecher Brazeau

Marchand/DeBrusk Zacha Pasta
Marchand/DeBrusk Coyle Brazeau
Freddy Beecher Geekie
Maroon Boqvist Heinen/ Lauko

 

[PB37]

Marchand/DeBrusk Zacha Pasta
Marchand/DeBrusk Coyle Brazeau
Freddy Beecher Geekie
Maroon Boqvist Heinen/ Lauko

I don't think the guy with 15 goals on the year should be considered as someone to platoon on the 4th line with a guy that has 2. Heinen has earned his spot in the starting roster.

 

[Hookslide]

I don't think the guy with 15 goals on the year should be considered as someone to platoon on the 4th line with a guy that has 2. Heinen has earned his spot in the starting roster.

Fine take Lauko out, I am looking for some energy ,physical play from the 4th line, I also think Lauko, Boqvist brings more speed to that line with Maroon on it.......I will be honest not a fan of Heinen.

 

[Colt.45Orr]

Fine take Lauko out, I am looking for some energy ,physical play from the 4th line, I also think Lauko, Boqvist brings more speed to that line with Maroon on it.......I will be honest not a fan of Heinen.

It is beecher/bo that platoon until injuries happen

 

[dugg133]

Fine take Lauko out, I am looking for some energy ,physical play from the 4th line, I also think Lauko, Boqvist brings more speed to that line with Maroon on it.......I will be honest not a fan of Heinen.

The Heinen-Zacha-Pasta is currently scoring more efficiently at 5v5 then the Draisatl-McDavid-Hyman line, at this point if you're still arguing for Heinen to be out of the lineup it's just you being stubborn rather then accepting that he's been a really good player for us this season.

 

[BostonBob]

The Heinen-Zacha-Pasta is currently scoring more efficiently at 5v5 then the Draisatl-McDavid-Hyman line

That can't be right........can it ????

 

[dugg133]

That can't be right........can it ????

According to moneypuck, the Heinen-Zacha-Pasta line is the third most efficient offensive line in the entire league right now with a minimum 100 min played together. They're on the ice for 5.44 goals per 60 min.

Draisatl-McDavid-Hyman are at 5.37

 

[shelbysdad]

It is beecher/bo that platoon until injuries happen

Yeah lets take out Beecher.....the best face off guy in the entire organization......faceoffs don't matter much in the playoffs anyways

 

[Hookslide]

It is beecher/bo that platoon until injuries happen

Why are you taking Beecher out.

 

[Hookslide]

The Heinen-Zacha-Pasta is currently scoring more efficiently at 5v5 then the Draisatl-McDavid-Hyman line, at this point if you're still arguing for Heinen to be out of the lineup it's just you being stubborn rather then accepting that he's been a really good player for us this season.

I think, I was not being stubborn when, I said fine take Lauko out and put him on the first line.......I was not being stubborn , I said upfront I am not a fan......

 

[Colt.45Orr]

Yeah lets take out Beecher.....the best face off guy in the entire organization......faceoffs don't matter much in the playoffs anyways

Like Beecher in the lineup. Bq and JVR are my scratches

 

[Colt.45Orr]

Dammit. I've been asking for Olivier since Lucic went out and now he's got 4g since TDL. SHG tonight and could smack the lips off any Panther.

 

[UncleRico]

All he's saying is it's possible, you don't have to like the guys he choose but they fill all the holes you claimed would be hard to fill because they're paying Peeke too much.

Also 41 points for Lindholm this year, I'd argue $7 mil might be generous, people will be gunshy to pony up for him after a 2nd straight season of reduced production.

Moving this discussion over to the correct thread.

I’ve been told by this board for a couple years now that Debrusk is worth $7m a year while putting up point totals in the low 40s consistently. Lindholm who has been consistently higher while being one the top defensive forwards in the league is now worth less than that because of one down year?

 

[NDiesel]

Moving this discussion over to the correct thread.

I’ve been told by this board for a couple years now that Debrusk is worth $7m a year while putting up point totals in the low 40s consistently. Lindholm who has been consistently higher while being one the top defensive forwards in the league is now worth less than that because of one down year?

Well I don't see why it matters what other people think Debrusk is going to get, I certainly don't think he will get anywhere near that. Seems like a strawman argument to me....funny enough he has 2 less points than Lindholm this year anyway and he's still expected to be paid higher than Jake

I think a lot of teams are going to be hesitant to pony up money to Lindholm given he's turning 30 and has trended down two consecutive years. Do you disagree with that?

 

[UncleRico]

Well I don't see why it matters what other people think Debrusk is going to get, I certainly don't think he will get anywhere near that. Seems like a strawman argument to me....

I think a lot of teams are going to be hesitant to pony up money to Lindholm given he's turning 30 and has trended down two consecutive years. Do you disagree with that?

No I don’t disagree with that at all, it’s actually the reason I don’t want him on the team. I am rarely ever in favor of paying players into their mid to late 30s.

I would also say his “trending down” for two years is technically true, but that’s because 3 years ago he had a career high points and last year he had his 3rd highest career point total. This year definitely not ideal though.

To his credit he’s also a great defensive forward. If it weren’t for arguably the best defensive forward of all time in Patrice Bergeron, Lindholm would have had a selke in 21/22 as he was runner up.

I think teams will pay $7m easily. That’s not even 1C money at that point that’s more higher end 2nd line center.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

No I don’t disagree with that at all, it’s actually the reason I don’t want him on the team. I am rarely ever in favor of paying players into their mid to late 30s.

I would also say his “trending down” for two years is technically true, but that’s because 3 years ago he had a career high points and last year he had his 3rd highest career point total. This year definitely not ideal though.

To his credit he’s also a great defensive forward. If it weren’t for arguably the best defensive forward of all time in Patrice Bergeron, Lindholm would have had a selke in 21/22 as he was runner up.

I think teams will pay $7m easily. That’s not even 1C money at that point that’s more higher end 2nd line center.

Pushing Lindholm for the Selke in 21/22 was a joke. He wasn’t elite defensively that year at all. A couple Canadian media guys were looking for a Bergeron alternative and started pushing him and it snowballed.

I’ll be happy to let someone else sign him.

 

[dugg133]

No I don’t disagree with that at all, it’s actually the reason I don’t want him on the team. I am rarely ever in favor of paying players into their mid to late 30s.

I would also say his “trending down” for two years is technically true, but that’s because 3 years ago he had a career high points and last year he had his 3rd highest career point total. This year definitely not ideal though.

To his credit he’s also a great defensive forward. If it weren’t for arguably the best defensive forward of all time in Patrice Bergeron, Lindholm would have had a selke in 21/22 as he was runner up.

I think teams will pay $7m easily. That’s not even 1C money at that point that’s more higher end 2nd line center.

7mil is around what I think he gets this summer now as well. Apparently the contract he turned down from the Flames was 8x8.5mil, and I just don't see him getting that from anyone anymore. But he's still the best center on the market in the first summer that teams actually have cap space in forever, so it'd shock me if he doesn't get something like 7x7mil.

 

[KnightofBoston]

Cool I hope you didn’t feel pressured or bullied by me. This is the first year I’ve subscribed and have been here many. I respect your decision completely.

Not at all friend. The way i look at it is this; either the site is managed so poorly that they cant even have their ad version function without it constantly crashing and preventing me from posting (and now, using it regularly) so why would i then pay someone who's already proven incompetent or; theyre doing it deliberately as a coercive tactic to get people to pay for the ad free "version". Im reminded of Ace's line in Casino; "either you were too stupid to notice you were being set up or you were in on it, either way youre out!!"

 

[PB37]

My offseason idea and what to accomplish:

1. Add size and scoring
2. Reduce Marchand's workload
3. Recoup some draft capital

- Trade Ullmark for picks
- resign Heinen
- resign Swayman


free agent pickups

- Mantha
- Guenztel
- Zadarov


Mantha -- Zacha -- Pasta

Guenztel -- Poitras -- Geekie

Marchand -- Coyle -- Frederic

Heinen -- Beecher -- Brazeau

Lauko


Lindholm -- McAvoy

Zadorov -- Carlo

Wotherspoon -- Peeke

Lohrei

Swayman
Bussi


That's a healthy mix of size and skill on every line. The blueline has a bit of bite to it. The top 6 gets a sniper in his prime and a complimentary player with good hands to go with his size.

 

[UncleRico]

Pushing Lindholm for the Selke in 21/22 was a joke. He wasn’t elite defensively that year at all. A couple Canadian media guys were looking for a Bergeron alternative and started pushing him and it snowballed.

I’ll be happy to let someone else sign him.

I’m with you, I don’t want to pay him long term either. I’m simply just saying I don’t think a team will be getting him for as low as $7m. I’m not a fan of paying guys into their mid-late 30s.

They do need a top line center though and I know you’ll say there are none available, but it seems every year there’s multiples trades that no one saw coming because the public didn’t know they were available.

 

[neelynugs]

Dammit. I've been asking for Olivier since Lucic went out and now he's got 4g since TDL. SHG tonight and could smack the lips off any Panther.

heard he was part of the discussion involving the peeke deal. but bruins chose maroon instead.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I’m with you, I don’t want to pay him long term either. I’m simply just saying I don’t think a team will be getting him for as low as $7m. I’m not a fan of paying guys into their mid-late 30s.

They do need a top line center though and I know you’ll say there are none available, but it seems every year there’s multiples trades that no one saw coming because the public didn’t know they were available.

Every year there are not bonafide 1C moving.

 

[Over the volcano]

heard he was part of the discussion involving the peeke deal. but bruins chose maroon instead.

That is irritating