Speculation: 2023-24 Free Agency/Trade Thread II

[goonsaredumb]

I know these charts are controversial around here but his defensive analytics where unreal, there's a reason so many people have the Kopitar and Barkov comparisons.

 

[AngelDuck]

Carlsson will be elite on both sides of the puck, there’s no reason to think otherwise based on his performance in his rookie season. Hopefully these progression continues

 

[Mr Rogers]

I know these charts are controversial around here but his defensive analytics where unreal, there's a reason so many people have the Kopitar and Barkov comparisons.

Definitely a little surprising to me on the defense but good to see

 

[Dostwall]

Corey Pronman’s not really a trade rumor guy, so I’m not sure what to make of this quote from his mock draft today:

“There’s also the matzo ball hanging out there that a Trevor Zegras trade seems increasingly likely. If they moved Zegras for a defenseman it could turn their attention right back up front to players like Lindstrom or Beckett Sennecke.”

NHL Mock Draft: Corey Pronman picks all seven rounds

Corey Pronman projects every pick in the 2024 NHL Draft.

www.nytimes.com

 

[dracom]

trading Zegras does nothing but further set back the team. is the franchise really only interested in being a shit team to just keep loading up on picks just to trade them away for more picks/prospects? guess being bad forever helps keep cost down...

A Zegras trade to me shows this franchise has zero interest in ever being a competitive team.

 

[tomd]

Corey Pronman’s not really a trade rumor guy, so I’m not sure what to make of this quote from his mock draft today:

“There’s also the matzo ball hanging out there that a Trevor Zegras trade seems increasingly likely. If they moved Zegras for a defenseman it could turn their attention right back up front to players like Lindstrom or Beckett Sennecke.”

NHL Mock Draft: Corey Pronman picks all seven rounds

Corey Pronman projects every pick in the 2024 NHL Draft.

www.nytimes.com

My wild thought...Ducks draft Silayev at 3OA and trade Zegras to Montreal for 5OA then take Sennecke. PV fulfills his dream to make team bigger and tougher to play against.

 

[Static]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803454314075258975

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803454314075258975

Damn, was dead wrong on that one. Be interesting to see what Calgary gets and how it might affect the rest of the market, I do still think Gibby gets dealt this summer.

 

[All Mighty]

There goes one Gibson suitor. Still think Detroit makes the most sense. Ullmark is probably the next domino to fall.

 

[cheesymc]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803454314075258975

I guess we will have to keep Gibby for another season barring injuries and desperate playoff teams wanting him at the deadline. I'm guessing this will make us sign Dostal for a short, low cost 2-year contract instead of a long term one.

 

[Static]

This return will probably have a large effect on our ability to move Gibson.

 

[cheesymc]

There goes one Gibson suitor. Still think Detroit makes the most sense. Ullmark is probably the next domino to fall.

Yeah, Wings might be the only option (maybe Kings). I wonder if we would do a Husso+Compher for Gibby+McGinn. Husso is off the books after this season and Compher is that righty who can help take faceoffs for Zegras.

 

[Static]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803460018810892766

Not just for picks, then.

 

[Gliff]

Yeah, Wings might be the only option (maybe Kings). I wonder if we would do a Husso+Compher for Gibby+McGinn. Husso is off the books after this season and Compher is that righty who can help take faceoffs for Zegras.

Why would the Ducks dump Gibson? There is no upside in doing it. They will have to take equal money back and the guys they get back will have little to no upside, like Husso and Compher.

If it was for another risky asset like Laine then I see the upside, but I would rather keep Gibson then dump him for equal money back.

 

[Boo Boo]

Why would the Ducks dump Gibson? There is no upside in doing it. They will have to take equal money back and the guys they get back will have little to no upside, like Husso and Compher.

If it was for another risky asset like Laine then I see the upside, but I would rather keep Gibson then dump him for equal money back.

Totally agree - I feel given the success of goalie tandems over the last few years we should just ride this out and keep dostals workload down to a reasonable amount

 

[Static]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803462578573611161

 

[All Mighty]

Why would the Ducks dump Gibson? There is no upside in doing it. They will have to take equal money back and the guys they get back will have little to no upside, like Husso and Compher.

If it was for another risky asset like Laine then I see the upside, but I would rather keep Gibson then dump him for equal money back.

IMO the only good reason to trade him is if he would prefer a change of scenery. This is just my opinion, but Gibson doesn't seem like a guy who would be OK with splitting the job with Dostal. If he is cool with that, then I'm cool with keeping him. There has definitely been plenty of smoke around his name in the past to suggest he might be on board with a trade.

 

[Static]

Not a bad return without seeing if there are conditions on the pick. What is bahl, a #5?

 

[All Mighty]

Not a bad return without seeing if there are conditions on the pick. What is bahl, a #5?

It's not bad I guess, but I also don't think it's that good. Markstrom was probably close to a Vezina finalist this year.

 

[Static]

It's not bad I guess, but I also don't think it's that good. Markstrom was probably close to a Vezina finalist this year.

It's the most a goaltender has returned since...what, freddie? When is the last time a goalie brought back a first? I'm probably forgetting someone.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

trading Zegras does nothing but further set back the team. is the franchise really only interested in being a shit team to just keep loading up on picks just to trade them away for more picks/prospects? guess being bad forever helps keep cost down...

A Zegras trade to me shows this franchise has zero interest in ever being a competitive team.

It really depends on follow up moves….

Let’s say we trade zegras for Reinbacher + jets 1st….. then draft 1 of lindstrom/Demidov/sannecke … and still have 3 picks in the 25-35 range to trade for a potential winger now. Can still throw money at a top 6 forward or use some of those assets. Maybe get a necas or boeser and roll with

We end up with a potential top shut down dmen In reinbacher
Still get a forward that can score
Still have a bunch of picks to make moves…. Bring in a top 6 forward as a prospect for next year or the year after.

I mean it can make sense if it’s done the right way

 

[All Mighty]

It's the most a goaltender has returned since...what, freddie? When is the last time a goalie brought back a first? I'm probably forgetting someone.

Kuemper to Colorado off the top of my head.

 

[Static]

Kuemper to Colorado off the top of my head.

Wasn't that two seconds?

Edit: nope, 32nd overall

 

[Static]

Bahl's caphit is basically $1 million for one more year, so Calgary was able to offload $5 million as well. They got pretty good value for a goaltender.

We won't be able to move Gibson for anything of real value without retention or taking real salary back.

 

[All Mighty]

Wasn't that two seconds?

Edit: nope, 32nd overall

You're right that it's pretty rare for a goalie to be traded for a 1st, but that might just be a function of the fact that starting goalies are rarely traded in the first place.