Prospect Info: 2023-24 Ducks Prospects

[anezthes]

"So he's got a big off season in the summer to get to where we believe he can be, but he'll be a guy that we want to really concentrate on over the summer and make sure that he's doing all the right things. So he comes in and has a healthy start of the season."

That he said on May 29th on Hvidston. Super strange.



Luneau is my fav D prospect of all. Well him and Minty. I have the same desire to see a Minty-Luneau pairing as I had back then when I thought Lindholm and Montour would be a match in heaven. Maybe this time it is

Same, would love to see a Minty-Luneau pairing. Preferably, top pairing. Both of them being Norris finalists. I don't think that's too much to ask.

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

Didn't Hvidston have a fairly significant injury? Maybe that's what changed minds.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Didn't Hvidston have a fairly significant injury? Maybe that's what changed minds.

He had a back injury during training camp and then an appendectomy surgery. Yet, our director of player Dev, Jim Johnson didn't think it would be a detriment and was expecting to work with Hvidston to during the summer.

 

[Rasp]

Just going to throw this out there that Hvidston was at the camp that we got fined for. Maybe he was the one that blabbed.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Just going to throw this out there that Hvidston was at the camp that we got fined for. Maybe he was the one that blabbed.

I shared this thought earlier in this thread, unless you can't read my posts.

 

[Boo Boo]

Just going to throw this out there that Hvidston was at the camp that we got fined for. Maybe he was the one that blabbed.

Ahh Yeah so to me that’s really poor conduct on our organization to not offer a contract to any player that was coerced into paying their way to that camp

 

[JAHV]

Ahh Yeah so to me that’s really poor conduct on our organization to not offer a contract to any player that was coerced into paying their way to that camp

It would be, yes, but while it's worth throwing out there as pure speculation, it's not fair to judge either the player or the organization over it. We don't know if Hvidston was the whistleblower, if the Ducks didn't offer him a contract, or if the (theoretical) lack of an offer was related to him blowing the whistle.

 

[Gliff]

It would be, yes, but while it's worth throwing out there as pure speculation, it's not fair to judge either the player or the organization over it. We don't know if Hvidston was the whistleblower, if the Ducks didn't offer him a contract, or if the (theoretical) lack of an offer was related to him blowing the whistle.

This. We know nothing. We dont even know if it was the team that didn't make an offer.
Speculating is fine, but be careful.

 

[razor ray]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1799475146543030475

 

[AngelDuck]

Bullish ranking on Gaucher, Dionicio and Sidorov

Pretty bearish on Colangelo

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

Bullish ranking on Gaucher, Dionicio and Sidorov

Pretty bearish on Colangelo

Dionicio and Sidorov are strange prospects. They could become legit stars, although I doubt either of them will hit that ceiling. Gaucher apparently was injured last season so tough to really say with him.

To me Colangelo seems the most likely to hit his potential but I only see his potential as being a middle sixer.

 

[AngelDuck]

Dionicio and Sidorov are strange prospects. They could become legit stars, although I doubt either of them will hit that ceiling. Gaucher apparently was injured last season so tough to really say with him.

To me Colangelo seems the most likely to hit his potential but I only see his potential as being a middle sixer.

This is my opinion but if you believe Colangelo is reasonably likely to be a middle six NHL player, then he is easily our 5th or 6th best prospect

 

[Mr Rogers]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1799475146543030475

It might be 7th now considering those top 3 but it will very soon drop off and arguably already depending on how you wanna categorize those 3. Why it's funny to see national media rave about our supposed forward prospects and hint that Zegs might be expendable because of that.

Not going to lie, we've been bad for so long and it's mildly disappointing how little depth we have in the forward ranks to show for it. Sure we've made our high picks count but as of now just very little depth (obviously Murray wasn't great at it and Pat has kinda followed suit. If i'm being honest, Sidorov is the only guy who's truly interesting to follow.)

 

[forever1922]

Not going to lie, we've been bad for so long and it's mildly disappointing how little depth we have in the forward ranks to show for it. Sure we've made our high picks count but as of now just very little depth (obviously Murray wasn't great at it and Pat has kinda followed suit. If i'm being honest, Sidorov is the only guy who's truly interesting to follow.)

Sido might be one of the more exciting prospects but let's acknowledge we have a full team's worth of 2nd and 3rd line potential forward prospects in Gaucher, Gauthier, Sidorov, Terrance, Pitre, Colangelo, Myatovic, Pastujov to go along with very young NHL players in Carlsson, Zegras, McTavish. That is what we actually have gotten from "sucking".

To complain about how we have drafted in the past 5 or so years is ridiculous. Look at the decade before that and it is disgusting hoe bad it was. This last stretch is the best the Ducks have ever succeeded in forward drafting. For this to be on par with the past, none of the prospects would succeed and somehow half of the ones in NHL would manage to injure and flop themselves out of the NHL picture alltogether.

 

[Mr Rogers]

Sido might be one of the more exciting prospects but let's acknowledge we have a full team's worth of 2nd and 3rd line potential forward prospects in Gaucher, Gauthier, Sidorov, Terrance, Pitre, Colangelo, Myatovic, Pastujov to go along with very young NHL players in Carlsson, Zegras, McTavish. That is what we actually have gotten from "sucking".

To complain about how we have drafted in the past 5 or so years is ridiculous. Look at the decade before that and it is disgusting hoe bad it was. This last stretch is the best the Ducks have ever succeeded in forward drafting. For this to be on par with the past, none of the prospects would succeed and somehow half of the ones in NHL would manage to injure and flop themselves out of the NHL picture alltogether.

I’m not talking about any of our top picks which have been good to great choices.

From 2018-2022 we appear to have found no top 6 players outside of our top picks. Pastujov looks like a long shot and I don’t think he’s a fit in a bottom 6. Gaucher, as a 1st rounder, is almost a surefire bottom 6er if he does make it.

It’s early still for 2023 so maybe we can leave that out for now but What makes you think those players you listed (excluding Cutter, wasn’t drafted by us) are any more impressive than players drafted in the past like Steel, Jones, and Lundestrom?

Ok maybe 2023 was a turning point for forwards but we’ll see. You said it was ridiculous to complain though which i 100% disagree with.

 

[forever1922]

I’m not talking about any of our top picks which have been good to great choices.

Isn't that pretty much the main reward of sucking? The other being quantity of picks, which we have done fine with as of late.

Like, when you pick just the late round picks and complain about how bad it looks, if you look at most franchises it's the same.

 

[Mr Rogers]

Isn't that pretty much the main reward of sucking? The other being quantity of picks, which we have done fine with as of late.

Like, when you pick just the late round picks and complain about how bad it looks, if you look at most franchises it's the same.

I think that’s where we disagree. We haven’t done fine with them Imo on forwards (excluding 2023 for now)

We are picking at or near the top of each round so theoretically we should have access to the better players that remain in lower rounds.

 

[mightyquack]

I’m not talking about any of our top picks which have been good to great choices.

From 2018-2022 we appear to have found no top 6 players outside of our top picks. Pastujov looks like a long shot and I don’t think he’s a fit in a bottom 6. Gaucher, as a 1st rounder, is almost a surefire bottom 6er if he does make it.

It’s early still for 2023 so maybe we can leave that out for now but What makes you think those players you listed (excluding Cutter, wasn’t drafted by us) are any more impressive than players drafted in the past like Steel, Jones, and Lundestrom?

Ok maybe 2023 was a turning point for forwards but we’ll see. You said it was ridiculous to complain though which i 100% disagree with.

To be fair, in that same time frame it's not like there has been a bunch of good young forwards top 6 forwards come out of the draft at this stage outside of the top picks (our would have been available for us at our 2nd first round pick).

2018: Marchenko - 49th (137g/67p), McBain - 63rd (159g/55p), Dewar - 92nd (190g/40p), Kurashev - 120th (266g/116p), Sharangovich - 141st (287g/165p)
2019: Pinto - 32nd (140g/70p), Kaliyev - 33rd (188g/71p), Hoglander - 40th (221g/90p), Dorofeyev - 79th (67g/33p), Maccelli - 98th (169g/112p), Voronkov - 114th (75g/34p)
2020: JJ Peterka - 34th (161g/82p), Evangelista - 42nd (104g/54p), Laferriere - 83rd (81g/23p), Aman - 167th (111g/23p)
2021: Doan - 37th (11g/9p), Stankoven - 47th (24g/14p), Knies - 57th (83g/36p)

2022 is too early to say, but between Hinds and Luneau I'm not seeing any huge prospects that would make us regret those picks yet.

2018 there is a surprising lack of good forwards outside of the 1st round in terms of production (and that's what we're really looking for in terms of top 6). Sharangovich is the best of them and he was a 5th rounder, and only broke out massively this season at 26 years old. Obviously any of these players are better then Groulx/McLaughlin but it's not really saying too much (outside of Sharangovich).

2019 was bad with Treacy, they went for the bland player who was thought to be a high floor type of player which didn't work out and we lost out on some of those higher potential players. But again, it's kind of barren outside of the 1st round....though a Pinto/Kaliyev/Hoglander would be nice instead of Treacy.

2020 we swung for the fences with Perreault, and I'll still maintain that was not a bad pick at all. He had great tools for a goalscorer and if he panned out, he's a 30-40 goal guy....unfortunately COVID really ruined his development.

2021, Doan/Stankoven/Knies look decent....but I'd rather have Zellweger myself.

We have obviously had issues developing forwards outside of our top picks, but it seems especially true in recent drafts that there isn't that many great top 6 producers coming out of the lower rounds at this point in time. 2023 is going to be the real test, we really need 2 of Myatovic/Terrance/Pitre/Sidorov to turn into middle 6, if not top 6 contributors. If we miss on 4 2nd/3rd round forwards.....that's really brutal.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Colangelo is a 2020 2nd round pick. Last year, he finished 8th in goal scoring in the NCAA with 24 goals, went 1g +3a = 4pts in 4 AHL games, and 1g + 0a = 1 pts in only 3 NHL games. He did take a circuitous path on being a high end scorer, but I'll take that if Colangelo continues to produce at a high rate from now on in the pros.

 

[Mr Rogers]

To be fair, in that same time frame it's not like there has been a bunch of good young forwards top 6 forwards come out of the draft at this stage outside of the top picks (our would have been available for us at our 2nd first round pick).

2018: Marchenko - 49th (137g/67p), McBain - 63rd (159g/55p), Dewar - 92nd (190g/40p), Kurashev - 120th (266g/116p), Sharangovich - 141st (287g/165p)
2019: Pinto - 32nd (140g/70p), Kaliyev - 33rd (188g/71p), Hoglander - 40th (221g/90p), Dorofeyev - 79th (67g/33p), Maccelli - 98th (169g/112p), Voronkov - 114th (75g/34p)
2020: JJ Peterka - 34th (161g/82p), Evangelista - 42nd (104g/54p), Laferriere - 83rd (81g/23p), Aman - 167th (111g/23p)
2021: Doan - 37th (11g/9p), Stankoven - 47th (24g/14p), Knies - 57th (83g/36p)

2022 is too early to say, but between Hinds and Luneau I'm not seeing any huge prospects that would make us regret those picks yet.

2018 there is a surprising lack of good forwards outside of the 1st round in terms of production (and that's what we're really looking for in terms of top 6). Sharangovich is the best of them and he was a 5th rounder, and only broke out massively this season at 26 years old. Obviously any of these players are better then Groulx/McLaughlin but it's not really saying too much (outside of Sharangovich).

2019 was bad with Treacy, they went for the bland player who was thought to be a high floor type of player which didn't work out and we lost out on some of those higher potential players. But again, it's kind of barren outside of the 1st round....though a Pinto/Kaliyev/Hoglander would be nice instead of Treacy.

2020 we swung for the fences with Perreault, and I'll still maintain that was not a bad pick at all. He had great tools for a goalscorer and if he panned out, he's a 30-40 goal guy....unfortunately COVID really ruined his development.

2021, Doan/Stankoven/Knies look decent....but I'd rather have Zellweger myself.

We have obviously had issues developing forwards outside of our top picks, but it seems especially true in recent drafts that there isn't that many great top 6 producers coming out of the lower rounds at this point in time. 2023 is going to be the real test, we really need 2 of Myatovic/Terrance/Pitre/Sidorov to turn into middle 6, if not top 6 contributors. If we miss on 4 2nd/3rd round forwards.....that's really brutal.

Fair enough

 

[Hockey Duckie]

YouTuber Duck My Life has a list of players who trained in Florida last summer (2023), from her recollection, in the video titled, "The LAST Zegras trade rumor video you will EVER need to watch..."

Hvidston is the only one not under contract from that roster list.

 

[GreatBear]

An evaluation of Duck Goalie prospects from the Ducks web site: Ducks of Tomorrow: Goalie Prospect Update with Coach Sudarshan Maharaj | Anaheim Ducks

As usual, nothing really negative, but I think that there is NHL level talent once Gibson moves on from the Ducks.

 

[All Mighty]

An evaluation of Duck Goalie prospects from the Ducks web site: Ducks of Tomorrow: Goalie Prospect Update with Coach Sudarshan Maharaj | Anaheim Ducks

As usual, nothing really negative, but I think that there is NHL level talent once Gibson moves on from the Ducks.

I'm curious if we will add a veteran goalie for next season and how that will affect our goalie pipeline. As it stands, we would have Gibson/Dostal in the NHL, Clang/Suchanek in the AHL, and Alexander/Buteyets in the ECHL. That looks fine, but I wonder if PV is comfortable with Clang/Suchanek getting NHL games if one of Gibson/Dostal gets injured. And if PV doesn't want that, then that veteran will probably be in the AHL taking some starts away from the Clang/Suchanek (like Stalock last year). Either way, it's not the biggest of deals, but it's something to watch.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

An evaluation of Duck Goalie prospects from the Ducks web site: Ducks of Tomorrow: Goalie Prospect Update with Coach Sudarshan Maharaj | Anaheim Ducks

As usual, nothing really negative, but I think that there is NHL level talent once Gibson moves on from the Ducks.

Early outlook, but it does look like we potentially found an NHL goalie in Clara. He got thrown into the water, learned how to compete, and then thrive in that high pressure atmosphere. That high pressure atmosphere included internal and external pressure on the way to an SHL promotion.

I do recall having a draft prospect who lead his HA (HockeyAllsvenskan) team to an SHL promotion. That prospect was one Hampus Lindholm.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I'm curious if we will add a veteran goalie for next season and how that will affect our goalie pipeline. As it stands, we would have Gibson/Dostal in the NHL, Clang/Suchanek in the AHL, and Alexander/Buteyets in the ECHL. That looks fine, but I wonder if PV is comfortable with Clang/Suchanek getting NHL games if one of Gibson/Dostal gets injured. And if PV doesn't want that, then that veteran will probably be in the AHL taking some starts away from the Clang/Suchanek (like Stalock last year). Either way, it's not the biggest of deals, but it's something to watch.

I think it’s prob an issue you can figure out at the time…. But I also feel like the team wouldn’t be opposed torturing clang get nhl looks this year if injuries occur