Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion

[Juxtaposer]

Not many since few players fit that profile. Brind'Amour and Bergeron come to mind. Barkov and O'Reilly could be solid counterexamples in that they peaked later despite being very well-rounded players.

'That profile' being "guys who are emotionally and physically mature and have good two-way games" and you can only come up with two more examples? Bergeron's best statistical seasons were 2017-2020, anyway. And I don't think Brind'Amour is a reasonable comparison.

You're essentially saying that Macklin is as good as he'll ever be right now if not for being before his physical prime. As though he's not going to keep improving his skills and improving his game. Seems like a crazy, crazy thing to say.

 

[OrrNumber4]

'That profile' being "guys who are emotionally and physically mature and have good two-way games" and you can only come up with two more examples?

Very talented, as well.

Bergeron's best statistical seasons were 2017-2020, anyway. And I don't think Brind'Amour is a reasonable comparison.

Bergeron's best seasons were his 2005-2007 run, though he did get injured afterward. I realize he won a bunch of trophies after that, but at least to me, he was at his absolute best those two seasons.

You're essentially saying that Macklin is as good as he'll ever be right now if not for being before his physical prime. As though he's not going to keep improving his skills and improving his game. Seems like a crazy, crazy thing to say.

I'm saying that like most players, Macklin's physical prime will be around ages 20-22, and that he has less room to grow in the other facets of the game because he's already so proficient there. Experience will help, etc. but he's not going to have that light-bulb moment where he starts contributing defensively and improves his diet.

 

[Wedontneedroads]

Some absolutely wild takes in here regarding when professional athletes peak and when the Sharks will/should go all in to compete for a Cup.

Most humans don’t reach physical prime until 22+ unless you are a genetic freak like LeBron James.

There is so much work to be done building this roster, and I hope management is patient when it comes to team building.

 

[spintops]

Even if Macklin was about to enter his short prime years (I disagree 100%) - you can't rush the rest of the rebuild. Look at where this roster was like 18 months ago. As much as we want to compete now because he looks that good, it's going to take time to build out a real contending roster.

I prefer to be patient for another 1-2 years waiting for some of the prospects to develop into core pieces. I'm on board with improving the roster or trading less premium assets. But I don't think it's time to trade big pieces to chase being a fringe playoff team yet

 

[STL Shark]

Penguins got Crosby in 2006 and were Cup Champions in 09. It's perfectly realistic to expect us to be a playoff team by next year and Cup Favorites by Celebrini's third year.

Crosby's rookie year was the first time the NHL implemented a salary cap. That completely changed the sport as teams had not been preparing their cap sheets for years like they do now. Gave Pittsburgh a more dramatic advantage over others. Not really a representative expectation to have in modern NHL.