Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion

[TheBeard]

I'd say it's a good approach on Kunin, Sturm, etc. because it has less to do with the actual return as much as it does just setting up to not be runover/waited out in future negotiations.

The difference between getting a 3rd or 4th for one of those guys (or just keeping them) isn't going to be franchise altering. The important piece is not letting another GM just wait you out to the final hour and force you to take whatever they will give you because that sets precedent to do again and again.

I don’t even think it’s worth the hassle of negotiating for guys like Kunin. If Grier has a price he should just stick with it. If he doesn’t get what he wants then just let him ride out into the sunset.

For Sturm, I’d actually like is to re-sign him if he’s interested. I think he’s a good bottom 6 guy who is good on face offs and seems to have his moments.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I think you’re missing the key point. We are a week away from the deadline. Every team is going to stick to their price until the last minute.

You're missing the point! The point is that the quote suggests that if Grier's price on Kunin isn't met, he won't trade him AT ALL. Not that he'll lower his price at the last minute if he doesn't get it.

I'd say it's a good approach on Kunin, Sturm, etc. because it has less to do with the actual return as much as it does just setting up to not be runover/waited out in future negotiations.

The difference between getting a 3rd or 4th for one of those guys (or just keeping them) isn't going to be franchise altering. The important piece is not letting another GM just wait you out to the final hour and force you to take whatever they will give you because that sets precedent to do again and again.

Yup, I have no problem with this approach. If no one is forking over at least a 3rd for Kunin, I'd rather keep him and let him walk. He's a good guy and a decent player and having him around the last 25 games for the culture and because he's a legit NHLer is more valuable than a 4th round pick IMO. And you're 100% right that Grier sticking to his guns shows that you can't just wait him out and low-ball him and sets that precedent for when it matters.

 

[Gecklund]

You're missing the point! The point is that the quote suggests that if Grier's price on Kunin isn't met, he won't trade him AT ALL. Not that he'll lower his price at the last minute if he doesn't get it.


Yup, I have no problem with this approach. If no one is forking over at least a 3rd for Kunin, I'd rather keep him and let him walk. He's a good guy and a decent player and having him around the last 25 games for the culture and because he's a legit NHLer is more valuable than a 4th round pick IMO. And you're 100% right that Grier sticking to his guns shows that you can't just wait him out and low-ball him and sets that precedent for when it matters.

It’s all posturing. Just like every single deadline ever.

 

[Juxtaposer]

It’s all posturing. Just like every single deadline ever.

So you think Kunin gets traded for a 4th?

 

[Gecklund]

So you think Kunin gets traded for a 4th?

If that’s the best offer, yes.

More realistically I think this will be the Barabanov situation all over again.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

If that’s the best offer, yes.

More realistically I think this will be the Barabanov situation all over again.

What do you mean by that? That someone's interest in another player gets prioritized over him getting dealt?