Maybe you’re projecting. I don’t think Guhle is meh. I’d love to get him. And I even suggested overpaying (IMO) for Guhle. The fact is I’m a fan of all three of these players. IMO Kakko is the best of the three, and Guhle is second. Leaving Othmann for third. I don’t see how that’s just unreasonable homerism.
Good point. Still don’t know that I’d do the trade though… I’m a bit less opposed.
Nah, not projecting, just stating the obvious of many undervaluing what they have in house (because of familiarity/ability to pick apart deficiencies.) and overvaluing others that aren't under the same microscope. Note, and I should have said this in my original post, but I don't think you fall under that umbrella. Your posts are well reasoned, and I was riffing off you essentially saying Kakko for Guhle +small add is more in-line with actual value than Kakko+Othmann for Guhle which is where I'm referencing for my og point.
prospects still playing (outside of Pack) is down to him
The point isn't whether it was an 'NHL level penalty' or not. It's that he committed it in a huge spot that arguably shifted the momentum of the game and cost his team a championship. E.g., he'll do the same thing in a big spot during the playoffs because the kid is a certified moron. So he's like the reverse MItch Marner; score a lot of points in the regular season but then kill your team in a big spot because of the things you do instead of the things you don't.
Bob McKenzie posted his top 15 today and Connelly was 15th:
Bob McKenzie posted his top 15 today and Connelly was 15th:
TSN McKenzie's Top 15 Rankings, NHL Draft Lottery Edition
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/bob-mckenzie-s-nhl-draft-ranking-an-unpredictable-ride-after-macklin-celebrini-1.2116004 1. Celebrini 2. Demidov 3. Silayev 4. Levshunov 5. Lindstrom 6. Dickinson 7. Parekh 8. Buium 9. Helenius 10. Iginla 11. Catton 12. Yakemchuk 13. Eiserman 14. Sennecke 15. Connellyforums.hfboards.com
Maybe he gathered that info before the gold-medal game, and maybe that will knock Connelly down a bit, but I doubt he'll fall out of the 1st round.
Tolvanen was a top ten projected.....until he wasn't.Bob McKenzie posted his top 15 today and Connelly was 15th:
TSN McKenzie's Top 15 Rankings, NHL Draft Lottery Edition
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/bob-mckenzie-s-nhl-draft-ranking-an-unpredictable-ride-after-macklin-celebrini-1.2116004 1. Celebrini 2. Demidov 3. Silayev 4. Levshunov 5. Lindstrom 6. Dickinson 7. Parekh 8. Buium 9. Helenius 10. Iginla 11. Catton 12. Yakemchuk 13. Eiserman 14. Sennecke 15. Connelly
Maybe he gathered that info before the gold-medal game, and maybe that will knock Connelly down a bit, but I doubt he'll fall out of the 1st round.
Top 10 on McKenzie's list? McKenzie polls scouts from 10 different teams to make his list, so it's based on what the teams are actually looking at.
6-1 final. Another empty net goal.
love hearing that - what are the skills or qualities that you see that make you think that?
I remember reading an in-depth article about him at the Athletic. Here's the link if you have a subscription. It has all the issues that have come up: Who will draft Trevor Connelly? Inside the NHL's evolving scrutiny of top prospects
While I agree with the bolded, I'd be hesitant to suggest that we know his character. We thought we were getting a character guy in Andersson, and we all know how that turned out.
I get it, and I usually don't like to judge kids that (in his case) are like 13-17. That's unfair. I think back to what I did as a kid, what my friends did...we'd be banned from every f***ing sport, no doubt.
