Injury Report: 2023/2024 Injury Updates

[dinodebino]

Lots of Dr Recchis in this thread.

Too many Dr YouTube fellas here.

Guhle MIGHT be fragile, just like Brunet was, who knows. But the medical team knows this a GAZILLION more than I. I studied in journalism, because I was a lazy ass. I didn’t study for 100 years in medecine. I leave that to their expertise. All I know is we already have two long term injuries. All that matters to me.

 

[salbutera]

Just because…

https://www.x.com/azadarski/status/1714798461067890733?s=46&t=a3HPp5YfHU2XDo78oSJMFA

 

[Mrb1p]

Lots of Dr Recchis in this thread.

Too many Dr YouTube fellas here.

Guhle MIGHT be fragile, just like Brunet was, who knows. But the medical team knows this a GAZILLION more than I. I studied in journalism, because I was a lazy ass. I didn’t study for 100 years in medecine. I leave that to their expertise. All I know is we already have two long term injuries. All that matters to me.

Its impossible to blame the new medical staff, they just arrived. With that said, science is ever evolving, some guys just dont keep up fast enough.

 

[windycity]

Just saw something on Book of Faces that Mailloux left Laval game holding his shoulder? Kill me now if true

 

[GravelTheOne]

Mailloux is there.

 

[red devil]

Lavoie says the rumour about Guhle missing 6-8 weeks isn't true and may miss just a few games.

 

[Nevins]

32 Thoughts: Why it's important to showcase NHL player personalities

In this week's notes Elliotte Friedman writes about the media demands on Connor Bedard and the growth of the game, Cale Makar's historic career start, and much more.

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Renaud Lavoie denies the seriousness of Guhle's injury and thinks he could play on Saturday.

 

[Rapala]

Is this particular one related to the Bell Center boards in any way? Not that I'm implying that they are non-standard. Probably not, but could we make them more forgiving to players and nudge the NHL toward innovating in this area? I believe that if the Habs led in this kind of design, that check on Dach might not have been so injurious. True, the away games would still carry the same risk, but if the team gets a measurable improvement as a result of more give in the boards, other teams will also want better health for their rosters as well, and 32 dominos topple.

After all, the construction of the boards is carried out in a manner identical to the inception of the game, back when players were smaller, lighter and slower. The modern game requires a new, proactive approach that prevents needless, stupid injuries. Unfortunately, lawyers and former players run the league, and not biomedical engineers.

Haven't these boards already been altered and were actually worse at one time?

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

Haven't these boards already been altered and were actually worse at one time?

Nowhere near to what they could be. They could be designed with new materials to respond as stiffly to a bouncing puck but much more tolerant to a 200-lbs athlete being rammed into them by a second athlete of that weight. They can also easily be spring-loaded so that they recoil a few inches in such an event. After all, if cars can be redesigned to absorb an impact and spare lives, why can we not adopt a technically savvy approach towards the boards as well? My personal experience dates back to beer league play while at McGill in the 2000s, but it didn't seem to me that much had changed, nor can I see an obvious difference now on television. If I put together a team that redesigned them, you would see the result on television.

 

[montreal]

not to pile on the fear train with the injuries and clearly I'm no Dr. Recchi but I have to say when I saw that hit on Dach and how he would be out the season I did that beastie boys meme WTF look as in how in the actual f*** did a 22 year old pro athlete shred his knee that badly on what at least looked more or less harmless.

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

not to pile on the fear train with the injuries and clearly I'm no Dr. Recchi but I have to say when I saw that hit on Dach and how he would be out the season I did that beastie boys meme WTF look as in how in the actual f*** did a 22 year old pro athlete shred his knee that badly on what at least looked more or less harmless.

it's not beastie boys it's blink-182

 

[The Real Timo]

According to LJM Habs will make a Guhle announcement Jeudi

 

[Gravity]

Lavoie says the rumour about Guhle missing 6-8 weeks isn't true and may miss just a few games.

I mean Friedman also said Guhle would be out a while.

Canadiens Injuries Woes Worsen As Guhle Expected To Miss Time

The terrible injury news keeps piling up for the Montreal Canadiens. After learning Kirby Dach would miss the remainder of the year with a knee injury, it appears that Kaiden Guhle is going to miss some time with a wrist injury. Guhle was injured in the second period of Tuesday night’s game...

montrealhockeynow.com

 

[WeThreeKings]

not to pile on the fear train with the injuries and clearly I'm no Dr. Recchi but I have to say when I saw that hit on Dach and how he would be out the season I did that beastie boys meme WTF look as in how in the actual f*** did a 22 year old pro athlete shred his knee that badly on what at least looked more or less harmless.

Just has to get caught and have pressure going in the right direction at the right force and boom.

It's similar to a football player shredding their ACL/MCL just planting their foot in the ground and trying to make a cut. Wrong angle, right amount of force and boom it tears.

 

[Natey]

A bottom pairing D, perhaps even a #7 D playing top 4 minutes.

His advanced numbers show that he's nowhere close to a #7 D.

And if he was on a better team, his numbers would probably be close to elite for his usage.

 

[Habs Icing]

According to LJM Habs will make a Guhle announcement Jeudi

LJM would be the last paper I thought would go bilingual and barely bilingual. Only one word in French. Maybe Legault is right.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

But Kovacevic sucks though.

No he doesn’t.

 

[Natey]

No he doesn’t.

Yes, I know. He's very f***ing solid.

 

[Tyson]

No he doesn’t.

Agreed he doesn't suck but like many players in Montreal over the years, he is played in the wrong chair. On a contender he isn't part of a top 6 D Corps.
In Montreal he belongs on the bottom pairing. He is a good, serviceable depth player.

 

[Lshap]

Nowhere near to what they could be. They could be designed with new materials to respond as stiffly to a bouncing puck but much more tolerant to a 200-lbs athlete being rammed into them by a second athlete of that weight. They can also easily be spring-loaded so that they recoil a few inches in such an event. After all, if cars can be redesigned to absorb an impact and spare lives, why can we not adopt a technically savvy approach towards the boards as well? My personal experience dates back to beer league play while at McGill in the 2000s, but it didn't seem to me that much had changed, nor can I see an obvious difference now on television. If I put together a team that redesigned them, you would see the result on television.

You're onto something. Bodies survive highway crashes thanks to advancing safety features in cars. Glass cellphone screens survive concrete sidewalks thanks to engineered cases. We can't change the nature of ice, but everything around it – the boards and players' equipment – can be calibrated to better absorb impact and maybe prevent joints from bending the wrong way.

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

You're onto something. Bodies survive highway crashes thanks to advancing safety features in cars. Glass cellphone screens survive concrete sidewalks thanks to engineered cases. We can't change the nature of ice, but everything around it – the boards and players' equipment – can be calibrated to better absorb impact and maybe prevent joints from bending the wrong way.

If the NHL were serious about the best on-ice product, they would fund simulation studies that improve boards, equipment, and so on. With Stanford's OpenSim open-source musculoskeletal simulation and deep neural networks able to estimate human pose from video and range-sensing, as well as motion capture if we really want to get precise about tracking them, it is possible to reconstruct in 3D any hockey play and explore what-if questions about board design and competing equipment designs. But alas, the NHL is run by a lawyer and former NHL players.

 

[pepperMonkey]

If the NHL were serious about the best on-ice product, they would fund simulation studies that improve boards, equipment, and so on. With Stanford's OpenSim open-source musculoskeletal simulation and deep neural networks able to estimate human pose from video and range-sensing, as well as motion capture if we really want to get precise about tracking them, it is possible to reconstruct in 3D any hockey play and explore what-if questions about board design and competing equipment designs. But alas, the NHL is run by a lawyer and former NHL players.

Sounds like a business (not just for hockey, but all pro sports). Wanna start a company with me? Just need to find some $$$ bags to fund us

 

[Deebs]

Is this particular one related to the Bell Center boards in any way? Not that I'm implying that they are non-standard. Probably not, but could we make them more forgiving to players and nudge the NHL toward innovating in this area? I believe that if the Habs led in this kind of design, that check on Dach might not have been so injurious. True, the away games would still carry the same risk, but if the team gets a measurable improvement as a result of more give in the boards, other teams will also want better health for their rosters as well, and 32 dominos topple.

After all, the construction of the boards is carried out in a manner identical to the inception of the game, back when players were smaller, lighter and slower. The modern game requires a new, proactive approach that prevents needless, stupid injuries. Unfortunately, lawyers and former players run the league, and not biomedical engineers.

I wish the league would go back to the boards and glass of the 70's-80's. The old buildings like Chicago stadium, the Forum, the Gardens, etc....those boards and glass would move 2 feet, cushioning the player when hit into them. Now it's like running into cement and it's ruining players and their bodies.

 

[CHfan1]

not to pile on the fear train with the injuries and clearly I'm no Dr. Recchi but I have to say when I saw that hit on Dach and how he would be out the season I did that beastie boys meme WTF look as in how in the actual f*** did a 22 year old pro athlete shred his knee that badly on what at least looked more or less harmless.

Below is the play where they believe Svechnikov tore his ACL. Sometimes it doesn’t take much.

 

[Deebs]

Below is the play where they believe Svechnikov tore his ACL. Sometimes it doesn’t take much.

Knees are so fickle. No word of a lie, the 2nd last game of my hockey season last year, i hit a rut in the ice, just like Svech and tore my meniscus.