Speculation: 2023-2024 General Lightning Discussion - Part 5

[Todd1a]

Need Atkinson to actually produce at a decent clip and Hagel to not go on a long goal-less drought if he's on the 2nd line. But I like your points here.

Atkinson is just not what he was which is why he was bought out it’s a good gamble for 1 year 900 k we’ll see if it works out

 

[Rschmitz]

Need Atkinson to actually produce at a decent clip and Hagel to not go on a long goal-less drought if he's on the 2nd line. But I like your points here.

Atkinson is a big wildcard, Flyer fans hated him but I see a really good fit. He's feisty, fast, can shoot, and will go to the scoring areas. He's a volume shooter, something this team needs.

I see the instant success this team had with Duclair and think this can be replicated, if he can stay healthy.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Atkinson is a big wildcard, Flyer fans hated him but I see a really good fit. He's feisty, fast, can shoot, and will go to the scoring areas. He's a volume shooter, something this team needs.

I see the instant success this team had with Duclair and think this can be replicated, if he can stay healthy.

He went through a long cold stretch where he didn't finish on chances for awhile and then went invisible. But Flyers fans have the deadly combination of being passionate but generally not that intelligent when it comes to hockey knowledge, so they rage far too easily.

 

[The Gongshow]

Atkinson is also 35. Signed for 900K what do you really expect. Doubt he gets near 20 goals, but would happily take the production. We have to try multiple players to fill the top 6 hole but realistically he's a 3rd to 4th liner at this point

 

[Rschmitz]

Atkinson is also 35. Signed for 900K what do you really expect. Doubt he gets near 20 goals, but would happily take the production. We have to try multiple players to fill the top 6 hole but realistically he's a 3rd to 4th liner at this point

I expect 20-20, maybe better if he sees significant PP time because of his righty shot

 

[ccman68]

i still remember gourde’s long ass scoring drought which didn’t mean anything in the end. though at 35 atkinson might just be done

 

[DistantThunderRep]

People expecting Atkinson to get up to 20 goals are in for a bad time. In all fairness any production greater than 20 points is gravy considering the contract, but yeah 20-20 is a pipe dream.

 

[Rschmitz]

People expecting Atkinson to get up to 20 goals are in for a bad time. In all fairness any production greater than 20 points is gravy considering the contract, but yeah 20-20 is a pipe dream.

Nothing wrong with this opinion, I think he was just a bad fit in Philly.

Let's see who's correct.

 

[DFC]

i still remember gourde’s long ass scoring drought which didn’t mean anything in the end. though at 35 atkinson might just be done

The big question is... do you remember this board's attitude toward Gourde at that time?

 

[LightningStrikes]

Atkinson hadn’t scored a single point in his last 21 (?) games of the season.

So in reality he scored 30 points in 50 games, not bad!

 

[Sky04]

The big question is... do you remember this board's attitude toward Gourde at that time?

Atkinson doesn't have a 5M+ cap hit...

 

[Flat Ronnie]

If Stamkos is "basically just a 30G guy at 34", it would be a miracle if a 35 yr old washed up Atkinson can hit 20G.

 

[Sky04]

Dude hit 20 goals 2 years ago and most of you guys talk like he's been done for years

 

[DFC]

Atkinson doesn't have a 5M+ cap hit...

Yeah, wasn't comparing the two. All I mean is, we jump to the "this guy is terrible" button way too quickly sometimes. I think we might be there with Perbix right now.

If Stamkos is "basically just a 30G guy at 34", it would be a miracle if a 35 yr old washed up Atkinson can hit 20G.

I don't think 20 is realistic at all. If we get 10, we should be pretty happy. There is always an outside chance he will click with someone and put up real numbers, but I don't think that's why he was acquired.

This MIGHT be a bit of a Shattenkirk situation though where he's coming here in hopes of scoring one last contract somewhere else. That would be great, actually.

 

[Byrddog]

Dude hit 20 goals 2 years ago and most of you guys talk like he's been done for years

Tanner Jeanott. Waved howdy there. But still at a decent cap hit for two years to prove himself it’s a decent move. I do not see him as 2nd liner so bottom 6 crowds up more.

 

[Master P]

If I had to see it, ya'll have to see it.

 

[OurlordAndSaviorKuch]

If I had to see it, ya'll have to see it.

I hate you for sharing this

 

[Hockeyville USA]

If I had to see it, ya'll have to see it.

The wordmark is ugly and looks off-center lol

 

[These Are The Days]

If I had to see it, ya'll have to see it.

I'm fine with it. I think this may be the only way he fully grows into the player he was always meant to be. We pampered him too often and for FAR too long. I honestly think if he was still here we'd just be getting more of the same -that was never good enough to keep him around

 

[Hockeyville USA]

I'm fine with it. I think this may be the only way he fully grows into the player he was always meant to be. We pampered him too often and for FAR too long. I honestly think if he was still here we'd just be getting more of the same -that was never good enough to keep him around

I'm just happy we got a decent return. Moser is a nice 2nd pair D, at worst an elite 3rd pair D. Geekie projects as a tough middle 6 scorer. And the picks were the cherry on top.

 

[Rschmitz]

Yeah, wasn't comparing the two. All I mean is, we jump to the "this guy is terrible" button way too quickly sometimes. I think we might be there with Perbix right now.


I don't think 20 is realistic at all. If we get 10, we should be pretty happy. There is always an outside chance he will click with someone and put up real numbers, but I don't think that's why he was acquired.

This MIGHT be a bit of a Shattenkirk situation though where he's coming here in hopes of scoring one last contract somewhere else. That would be great, actually.

Him being bought out and signing a one year deal is pretty much where it begins and ends in comparison to Shattenkirk IMO. He's over 34. There's a better comparison, Corey Perry, who had to re-establish himself after his own major injury.

If Atkinson was a surefire 20g scorer, he'd have never been available for us. I think it's wrong to simply look at what he signed for and assume that's all he's good for though, the upside is there, he's got a few things going for him.

1. There aren't 6 better scoring forwards, he'll make line 2 if Paul is forced to 3C
2. He's got a lethal righty shot
3. He's a volume shooter, one of the better 5v5 shots/60
4. He generates tons of rebounds, 94th percentile on second chance assists/60

This team is desperate for a player like Atkinson. Any doubt, look what happened last year when we inserted a veteran shoot first burner into the team in Duclair, there's your blueprint.

 

[Todd1a]

Him being bought out and signing a one year deal is pretty much where it begins and ends in comparison to Shattenkirk IMO. He's over 34. There's a better comparison, Corey Perry, who had to re-establish himself after his own major injury.

If Atkinson was a surefire 20g scorer, he'd have never been available for us. I think it's wrong to simply look at what he signed for and assume that's all he's good for though, the upside is there, he's got a few things going for him.

1. There aren't 6 better scoring forwards, he'll make line 2 if Paul is forced to 3C
2. He's got a lethal righty shot
3. He's a volume shooter, one of the better 5v5 shots/60
4. He generates tons of rebounds, 94th percentile on second chance assists/60

This team is desperate for a player like Atkinson. Any doubt, look what happened last year when we inserted a veteran shoot first burner into the team in Duclair, there's your blueprint.

This guy isn’t it JBB needs a top 6 forward still

 

[DFC]

Him being bought out and signing a one year deal is pretty much where it begins and ends in comparison to Shattenkirk IMO. He's over 34. There's a better comparison, Corey Perry, who had to re-establish himself after his own major injury.

If Atkinson was a surefire 20g scorer, he'd have never been available for us. I think it's wrong to simply look at what he signed for and assume that's all he's good for though, the upside is there, he's got a few things going for him.

1. There aren't 6 better scoring forwards, he'll make line 2 if Paul is forced to 3C
2. He's got a lethal righty shot
3. He's a volume shooter, one of the better 5v5 shots/60
4. He generates tons of rebounds, 94th percentile on second chance assists/60

This team is desperate for a player like Atkinson. Any doubt, look what happened last year when we inserted a veteran shoot first burner into the team in Duclair, there's your blueprint.

That sounds a lot like what we got with Shattenkirk though. We were told he wasn't even an NHLer anymore. Then he showed up... and was pretty good. Definitely better than anyone thought he was going to be. But he was also here because he saw it as an opportunity to revive his career. Yeah, Atkinson's older, but there are roles available on this team where a guy like this thrives.

 

[BeingTheThunder]

Dude hit 20 goals 2 years ago and most of you guys talk like he's been done for years

Even better than that, he’s scored 20+ goals in 7 of the past 10 seasons. Including seasons where he’s scored 41 and 35 goals. Two of the three seasons where he’s failed to score at least 20, he missed 38 and 26 games. Last year was an exception and not the rule. I think this will prove to be a sneaky good signing.

 

[Antiramie]

Dude hit 20 goals 2 years ago and most of you guys talk like he's been done for years

Yea, I'm sure the season-ending neck injury he had recently is just a coincidence...