Speculation: 2023-2024 General Lightning Discussion - Part 5

[Flat Ronnie]

we should pass on Guentzel and try and go after a big time RHD

Like who

 

[The Gongshow]

we should pass on Guentzel and try and go after a big time RHD

If they could get Kane cheap then I'd say take a pass on Jake and sign one if the better RD FA, but we just had too much money tied up on defence, we might not wanna do the same by signing another Dman to 6.5+

 

[Point21]

Like who

Carrier would be my top choice

 

[Todd1a]

Carrier would be my top choice

Or Roy ?

 

[Flat Ronnie]

Carrier would be my top choice

So how are you allocating the 16.5?

 

[Point21]

Or Roy ?

Roy will probably be a little to much for our liking. Carrier will come in at less than 4m

 

[Todd1a]

So how are you allocating the 16.5?

Probably first 3 year deal Stamkos 6.5 AAV

 

[TheSchmidt]

we should pass on Guentzel and try and go after a big time RHD

agreed

Montour (big time pass), Roy, Sean Walker and Tanev are the best RHD in UFA unless i missed someone

haven't watched too much of Roy and Walker to give an opinion on. do know colorado wasn't impressed with walker after the trade

Roy will probably be a little to much for our liking. Carrier will come in at less than 4m

he'd be good too

 

[JTBF81]

Trade Perbix and waive Sheary to add another 1.975 if not claimed. They'd have 18.475. Guentzel would be great, but they could also sign a nigher impact RD such as Roy, Walker, Carrier etc, extend Stamkos, and still add a very good F such as Teräväinen, JAM, Duchene, Toffoli etc, or go after 2 guys like Sprong, Tarasenko, Noesen, Amadio, Martinook,.Roslovic, Duclair etc. They definitely have the flexibility now, and hopefully will have a little more

 

[Crunchrulz]

So exactly how much cap do we currently have? How much is Moser adding?

Is Cap Friendly still accurate?

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$16.5M is the current available cap?

Looks correct with 16 roster spots (17 if you count Moser who is an RFA).

 

[Point21]

Maybe something like this

 

[Crunchrulz]

That probably close to what it would look like.

I don't think we can afford to dump anyone else at this point. We do need to fill out a roster. Cirelli stays. Cernak stays. I think even Shesry probably stays and goes on the 3rd line with Paul.

What about Skinner buy out or Maroon league minimum? We do need some type of toughness after losing Jeannot.

Watson could probably be brought back for a reasonable contract to cover the toughness as he seemed to be preferred over Jeannot last season.

 

[Soul Assumption]

Montour (big time pass), Roy, Sean Walker and Tanev are the best RHD in UFA unless i missed someone

Pesce

 

[Rschmitz]

With Demelo having been re-signed I'm not interested in any of the remaining RD free agents. Fill out on offense IMO, our defense should be back to being top 10 again

 

[ccman68]

Hedman-Raddysh
Mcdonagh-Cernak
Moser-Perbix

i have no problems with our D. top 4 is strong. perbix can be upgraded at the deadline if he sucks again

 

[Point21]

 

[JoVel]

Has Chris Tanev ever not been on the trading block in his NHL career?

 

[TheSchmidt]

Hedman-Raddysh
Mcdonagh-Cernak
Moser-Perbix

i have no problems with our D. top 4 is strong. perbix can be upgraded at the deadline if he sucks again

I honestly think thats awful (maybe awful is too strong of a word)

Unless the big three can play like they did 3-4 years ago.

Hedman is still really good, but father time always wins. Gotta have a better partner for him.

McD looked done his last year here, but apparently had a resurgence in Nashville. But dude is 35. Can't expect the same as guy when he was 30-31.

Cernak has looked downright bad since #27 left. Injuries taking their toll? Will #27 being back help elevate him to the old Cernak? Certainly hope so.

Third pair is whatever. Never seen Moser play, but seems more than passable as a 3LD.

I just see another dcore that is gonna struggle to get the puck out of our zone and to our forwards effectively so we can be a better even strength team.

 

[Rschmitz]

I honestly think thats awful (maybe awful is too strong of a word)

Unless the big three can play like they did 3-4 years ago.

Hedman is still really good, but father time always wins. Gotta have a better partner for him.

McD looked done his last year here, but apparently had a resurgence in Nashville. But dude is 35. Can't expect the same as guy when he was 30-31.

Cernak has looked downright bad since #27 left. Injuries taking their toll? Will #27 being back help elevate him to the old Cernak? Certainly hope so.

Third pair is whatever. Never seen Moser play, but seems more than passable as a 3LD.

I just see another dcore that is gonna struggle to get the puck out of our zone and to our forwards effectively so we can be a better even strength team.

Really? I think the only guy who's questionable is Perbix, Moser and Raddysh are both top 4 caliber D

 

[Point21]

 

[ccman68]

I honestly think thats awful (maybe awful is too strong of a word)

Unless the big three can play like they did 3-4 years ago.

Hedman is still really good, but father time always wins. Gotta have a better partner for him.

McD looked done his last year here, but apparently had a resurgence in Nashville. But dude is 35. Can't expect the same as guy when he was 30-31.

Cernak has looked downright bad since #27 left. Injuries taking their toll? Will #27 being back help elevate him to the old Cernak? Certainly hope so.

Third pair is whatever. Never seen Moser play, but seems more than passable as a 3LD.

I just see another dcore that is gonna struggle to get the puck out of our zone and to our forwards effectively so we can be a better even strength team.

hedman and raddysh were destroying competition together this season i don't see any reason for it to stop. mcdonagh has still been good and cernak is still young enough to bounce back.

there is risk to the second pair i guess but our defense wasn't THAT bad even without sergachev last year so i don't see how adding mcdonagh and moser can be anything but a good thing. lilleberg and crozier are waiting in the wings as well so there's a lot of options if someone falls off.

 

[Rschmitz]

Are we allowed to actually look at free agents and talk about them now?

 

[These Are The Days]

Our offense is dog water. The Lightning are best described as a one time team that is completely dependent on one player and plays 45 minutes a night of rope-a-dope unless it's time for their power play (that stands completely still mind you) to try for the Stamkos one timer. If Kucherov wasn't bagging 100 points a season we wouldn't even be making the playoffs. We need a top 6 winger who is ACTUALLY a winger, not sticking centers up and down the lineup like band aids. We desperately need someone like Guentzel, not a freaking depth defender. McDonagh and Hedman aren't leaving the ice like ever. We might as well have spent the last 2 years smacking the hood of a car saying "This team gets so much Cirelli per gallon!" like it's an accomplishment. Cool dude. We score a bunch of goals but don't control the game in any fashion

Change the identity already. This isn't working. Cup or bust. End of story

 

[Todd1a]

JBB on hockey form boards here later tonight

lol

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807088109009412351

 

[bov]

Watson could probably be brought back for a reasonable contract to cover the toughness as he seemed to be preferred over Jeannot last season.

Watson only played in garbage time, I don't get the sense he was valued all that much. Honestly wouldn't shock me if they reach out to Maroon instead.