Speculation: 2023-2024 General Lightning Discussion - Part 5

[LightningStrikes]

So who’s gonna be captain? Hedman? McD? Or will we be rotating A’s?

 

[The Gongshow]

So who’s gonna be captain? Hedman? McD? Or will we be rotating A’s?

It's Hedman, no question.

McD gets an A
Kuch gets an A

 

[Coopers Gum]

Well.

What are our options now? We want another top 6 winger. Realistically… who could we get?

Why the f*** did we bail on a 40 goal scorer over a mil or so cap hit per year lmao. Not to mention the other stuff he brought to the table.

Anyway. What’s next? We rolling with this lineup? There’s too much cap space to make me believe this is it.

 

[The Macho King]

There's no way he was asking for 4m. Sorry there was no hard reporting on that.

He is - right now - a 5.5ish player in a dream situation beside the best playmaker in the league. And he can go from 5.5 to not an NHLer really quick at his age - not everyone ages like Pavelski.

 

[The Gongshow]

Hope y'all are ready for a 2nd line of

Hagel - Cirelli - SHEARY

 

[Todd1a]

Hope y'all are ready for a 2nd line of

Hagel - Cirelli - SHEARY

nope

 

[FinnLightning26]

Hope y'all are ready for a 2nd line of

Hagel - Cirelli - SHEARY

This is what I'm afraid of because we didn't buy him out.

 

[NJBolt]

This is what I'm afraid of because we didn't buy him out.

No reason to buy him out and have it on the books for 4 years when you could trade him as of today or bury him in the AHL and get $1.15 million in cap relief.

 

[Lightning1995]

The Lightning currently have 17 players under contract with 7.5 million of cap space left. Let’s say Moser costs 3 million. That leaves 4.5MM. Ideally the roster will have 22 players. So not much more than a million per player left.

There is no top 6 forward coming to pair with Cirelli and Hagel. JBBs best bet is probably to find near league minimum deals to fill out the roster. Lilliberg is a no brainer and need a few kids to step up I guess. Maybe bring Motte back. Then accrue cap space and hopefully bring in another Duclair type for the stretch run

 

[JTBF81]

Cirelli is black hole. If we can trade for someone who is a genuine playmaker, I'll feel better about this

Cirelli is no black hole. Good defensively, 20 goals and closing on 50 points. He may not have hit his ceiling either, but he's a good player. He'd have been moved by now most likely if that was the plan.

 

[JTBF81]

If they buy Sheary out, they save 1.4167 this year. The cap hit with a rising cap isn't a large issue, but if he could be traded, all the better. Clearing his full 2 million gives them 9.5, then after Moser at ~2.5, Lilleberg at 870k, Motte at 900k and perhaps Goncalves at 775k, theyd have around ~4.5 left for 2 players. You spend a million on somebody and then around 3.5 on an actual middle 6 F who can play 2nd or 3rd line.

 

[RMF5630]

Does anyone have any information on Moser? Not up to speed on him. Any good? Former 2nd round pick, that is about all I know. Found this article:

How J.J. Moser Impacts the Lightning Blue Line - The Hockey Writers Tampa Bay Lightning Latest News, Analysis & More

On Saturday, June 29, the Tampa Bay Lightning acquired J.J. Moser in the Mikhail Sergachev trade. What will his impact be?

thehockeywriters.com

 

[RMF5630]

The Lightning currently have 17 players under contract with 7.5 million of cap space left. Let’s say Moser costs 3 million. That leaves 4.5MM. Ideally the roster will have 22 players. So not much more than a million per player left.

There is no top 6 forward coming to pair with Cirelli and Hagel. JBBs best bet is probably to find near league minimum deals to fill out the roster. Lilliberg is a no brainer and need a few kids to step up I guess. Maybe bring Motte back. Then accrue cap space and hopefully bring in another Duclair type for the stretch run

Who on the roster has a shot at maturing into something?

Essymont is a scrappy, gritty bottom 6 and PK. Glendenon? Chaffee? Either be the next Point?

 

[DFC]

Who on the roster has a shot at maturing into something?

Essymont is a scrappy, gritty bottom 6 and PK. Glendenon? Chaffee? Either be the next Point?

Lol...

 

[OurlordAndSaviorKuch]

So who’s gonna be captain? Hedman? McD? Or will we be rotating A’s?

Heddy or we revolt even more.

 

[Felonious Python]

So who’s gonna be captain? Hedman? McD? Or will we be rotating A’s?

It depends on who picks the captain.

Hedman and McD would be at the top of the list, I'd think.

Maybe we go with 3 A's for a while at the start of the season to see how the room dynamics change.

 

[Sky04]

Hedman will be captain without question. We're likely a much better team next year as well.

 

[Rschmitz]

We still have some $$$

 

[Felonious Python]

Hedman will be captain without question. We're likely a much better team next year as well.

I don't think it's without question. The Lightning are very keen on McD's leadership, and he was captain for the NYR.

There are plenty of books about leadership and all that, so if the Lightning take a prescriptive approach, McD (or whoever) may actually check more of the boxes.

The path of least resistance would be Hedman as captain, though.


Kuch would be objectively hilarious as captain. There are a lot of superficial aspects that the team expects you to do as captain. Kuch would hate it.

Do the Lightning have a vocal leader? That seemed to be an issue last season.

 

[b0lthed]

Couple things …

Duclair is signing with the Islanders

No way Moser would accept $2.5M AAV. He a top-4 dman. He could cost upwards of $4M per

Conor Geekie probably has a better shot at making the team than Gaultier, maybe better than Gage too

 

[Flat Ronnie]

We have $7.5M left. Need Moser to sign. We're prob looking at around $4-4.5M remaining for the rest of the roster.

Are we really filling out the rest of the roster with $1M players?

 

[CupsOverCash]

Sheary and jg gonna get their boy sid to come on down!

 

[Lightning1995]

We have $7.5M left. Need Moser to sign. We're prob looking at around $4-4.5M remaining for the rest of the roster.

Are we really filling out the rest of the roster with $1M players?

Yes

 

[Flat Ronnie]

Yes

Lol brutal

 

[Lightning1995]

Lol brutal

Only way around it is some combination of Moser coming in cheaper than expected, Sherry being moved or the Lightning roll with a roster of 20 or 21