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Blue Jays GDT: 2022 v12 | Next: Wed, Oct 5 | @ Bal | *DOUBLEHEADER* | 12:30pm ET/9:30am PT & TBD | TBA vs Baumann & TBA vs Watkins

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Now they are stopping the game in the middle of an inning, instead of stopping it after 7
 
There it is, rain delay jays have bases loaded 2 outs. Call it already. 8th inning.
 
Eddings should have just rung up Tapia there, who cares how much of a ball it was, let them stop the game for rain in between innings.

I would have told the batter and catcher. If the pitch is in the air it's going to be a strike so make sure you swing.
 
canucksfan said:
The game should have been paused before this inning started. Just dumb.
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Absolutely. Dumb. Injury risk is so high.

But to do it now when the Jays have 2 outs and the bases loaded? It means they weren't going to call it if the Jays go 3 up and 3 down.....they would have let the O's hit too.
 
So this game better be officially called a win after 30 minutes right? There not going to try to make them play at midnight or some bs if the rain lightens up a bit.
 
Switching over to the Mariners Detroit game, Mariners announcers. "Jays versus Mariners. Interesting series. Jays a great hitting team and Mariners great pitching. Pitching usually wins".

They do have good pitching but kinda' forgetting about Misters Manoah and Gausman with a side order of Stripling, and a hungry Berrios lurking for starters.
 
budzz said:
Switching over to the Mariners Detroit game, Mariners announcers. "Jays versus Mariners. Interesting series. Jays a great hitting team and Mariners great pitching. Pitching usually wins".

They do have good pitching but kinda' forgetting about Misters Manoah and Gausman with a side order of Stripling, and a hungry Berrios lurking for starters.
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Yeah if we look at the 6 starters for the series.

By ERA:
1. Manoah 2.24
2. Castillo 2.99
3. Stripling 3.01
4. Gilbert 3.20
(Kirby 3.26)
5. Gausman 3.35
6. Ray 3.71
(Berrios 5.23)

By FIP:
1. Gausman 2.38
(Kirby 2.89)
2. Castillo 3.07
3. Stripling 3.11
4. Manoah 3.35
5. Gilbert 3.46
6. Ray 4.17
(Berrios 4.55)

By xFIP
1. Gausman 2.75
2. Castillo 3.23
(Kirby 3.31)
3. Ray 3.58
4. Stripling 3.67
5. Gilbert 3.78
6. Manoah 3.97
(Berrios 4.21)

By fWAR:
1. Gausman 5.7
2. Manoah 4.1
3. Castillo 3.7
4. Gilbert 3.1
5. Stripling 3.1
(Kirby 3.1)
6. Ray 1.7
(Berrios 1.1)

By K/9:
1. Gausman 10.56
2. Ray 10.10
3. Castillo 10.00
(Kirby 9.21)
4. Gilbert 8.43
5. Manoah 8.24
(Berrios 7.80)
6. Stripling 7.44

By BB/9:
1. Stripling 1.34
(Kirby 1.42)
2. Gausman 1.44
3. Manoah 2.33
(Berrios 2.35)
4. Gilbert 2.38
5. Castillo 2.69
6. Ray 2.95

Seattle has more starting depth without a doubt. Kirby is so good I wouldn't be shocked if he started 1 of the 3 games, but it's not a pick 4 it's a pick 3.The Jays trio rank better by ERA, FIP, fWAR and BB/9. Seattle is clearly better in K/9 and has a marginal lead in xFIP. The WC rotations are extremely similar. That would change for a longer series but that's not what we get.

and both teams pen numbers

TOR: 3.78 ERA, 4.05 FIP, 3.88 xFIP, 2.9 fWAR, 8.94 K/9, 3.12 BB/9
SEA: 3.38 ERA, 3.69 FIP, 3.77 xFIP, 3.7 fWAR, 9.56 K/9, 3.06 BB/9

Given pens change a lot here are the numbers for August onward for the pens so it gives a post trade deadline idea

TOR: 3.59 ERA, 3.79 FIP, 3.75 xFIP, 1.5 fWAR, 9.47 K/9, 2.96 BB/9
SEA: 3.02 ERA, 3.34 FIP, 3.72 xFIP, 2.3 fWAR, 9.70 K/9, 3.27 BB/9

I'm confident in saying Seattle has the better bullpen. Every single data point for both the entire season and the past 2 months is in their favour except BB/9 for the last 2 months.
 
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WOW nice synopsis C4. Thank you sir. Yes admittedly they are good but in a short series anything can happen. Our starters can hold their own, but Seattle also has to deal with a potent offense. Pitching and D are always favored but when it's close look at O which the Jays have. Add in some home grown rocking Rogers Centre and bring it on! :-)
 
Orca Smash said:
So this game better be officially called a win after 30 minutes right? There not going to try to make them play at midnight or some bs if the rain lightens up a bit.
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It is the home team's call at 30 minutes. They can choose to end the game or to try to wait it out.

Usually, waiting is only considered if there is clear weather on the horizon. Also, as a result of a previous Toronto-Baltimore game (in Baltimore), MLB now forbids that any inning begins after 1am local time. So if the game were to restart at midnight and the rest of the 8th took an hour, the game would be over after 8 anyway (a game under 5 innings is suspended due to time, anything over 5 is final unless the score is tied).
 
kb said:
What a crock of sh*t.

"We know it's pouring, keep playing"

"Wait, the Jays have the bases loaded? Bring on the tarps"

The league just embarrassed itself again.
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Once the game is going, it usually takes an obvious sign that the rain is a threat to the players to stop the game. With the pristine shape that MLB ballparks are usually in, it isn't that dangerous to play in the rain. That being said, the second the umpire believes that the pitcher has lost the ability to properly grip the ball due to rain, that is one of the warning signs. If a ball slips and it is raining, the ump will make a judgement call whether to stop immediately or basically go pitch by pitch. When he missed for ball four, the umpire clearly decided that it was too difficult to properly grip a ball. I would much rather the ump call a walk and stop the game and keep the integrity of the at-bat than him use "game management".
 
No game tonight a double header is now scheduled for tomorrow starting at 12:30 pm.
 
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