2022 Stanley Cup Favourite #4

[bobholly39]

For some reason, you take zero account into what a team actually does in the present time, and just want to use history as your main argument. The 1997 Florida Marlins won the World Series, then pawned off the whole team, but going by your argument, that shouldn’t be taken into account. How ridiculous does that sound???

Going into THIS SEASON, Florida has a better overall team than Montreal, Boston, Pittsburgh, Washington. But since those teams have had more playoffs success than the Panthers, anything else to take into consideration is irrelevant. Yeah, that sounds about right lol

Florida has gone through pages full of changes since pretty much their inception. To argue playoff success with this teams past was never important because playoff success was never important to prior owners. This team, coaching staff, management, and ownership are all on the same page, for the first time in its history, and that is fact, not the same crap you are posting.

You keep repeating and capitalizing the same things. I clearly understand you, I just don't agree.

Going into THIS season - I think it matters what the team and players have shown the ability to do before. You seem to disagree, cool.

Going into THIS season - Barkov has 14 points in 16 playoff career games, and is a minus 10. This for a Selke favorite. He hasn't shown me yet he can lead his team's offense into playoff success.
Going into THIS season - Bobrsovki your #1 goalie has won 1 playoff round in 8 years. Happened to be the biggest choke job in history too - so good on him, but a lot of it was Tampa sucking too.
Going into THIS season - Knight is 20 years old and has 6 total NHL games in his career. Goalies at that age rarely succeed this young - can he? Sure, maybe. Will he? We'll see, but good chance it takes him a couple of years to figure it out.
Going into THIS season - Quenneville is a great coach - but he also had some really bad years in Chicago. A strong coach is critical, but he can't do it on his own. He had success in year 1 - maybe it continues, maybe it doesn't. Divisional formats threw everything off last year.

Etc.

You may believe going into THIS season Florida had a better team than Boston, Pittsburgh, Washington - I don't. Vegas either. Nor Carolina. Montreal? Sure - better roster on paper than Montreal does.

They played us tough and added pieces. Q is a great coach.

I go by what I see on the ice. They are contenders whether you like it or not.

It's hard not to see them knocking on the door. I think your finals trip has really deluded you into thinking that is the real Habs. I get it...it's gotta be tough.

You can make fun of the Habs all you want, and that's cool. We still made it farther than any team but yours last year. I have a thick skin, so keep at it =)

 

[bossram]

Vegas

People voting for Florida is hilarious.

No - the team who hasn't won a single playoff series in 25 years and who has only qualified for the playoffs once in the last 5 years isn't the 4th favorite to win the Stanley Cup...

Lmao.

On one hand, you can make an objective assessment of each team's roster and come up with your own conclusion. Doing so, one would conclude Florida has a very strong team.

On the other hand, you could pull a bobholly and be like "lel, fLoRiDazzz"

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

That's cool - but I'm not suggesting Montreal should be voted here or even ahead of Florida? This is strictly about Florida. He brought up Montreal, so I give my opinion on them. I'm not upset in anyway about Montreal. In my opinion, Montreal probably belongs around ~12th to 15th on this list. But I expect HF will vote them in lower. This thread isn't about Montreal though, way too soon.

For #4 - Florida has no case. If you want to argue that they do - that's cool, feel free to, and feel free to respond to some of my comments above where I explain my reasoning as to why they don't

I think once you reach the 4-10 range, you're talking about teams who are all relatively close, but the difference being the ones nearer the 4-6 range having less question marks than the ones in the 7-10 range.

If you look at Florida's roster, where would you consider the question marks that hold them back from going deep in the playoffs? They're deep up front, deep on defense, so the one question mark is whether Knight can handle the #1 duties (or if Bob can somehow rebound to his Vezina form).