GDT: 2022 NHL Draft Lottery - Devils win 2nd overall pick!

[Eggtimer]

I haven't. I'll give it a shot, but keep in mind how close it is at the top -- this is very, uh... "shuffle-able":

1 Wright
2 Power
3 Hughes
4 Slafkovsky
5 Beniers
6 McTavish
7 Jiricek
8 Nemec
9 Edvinsson
10 Cooley

Oh, I didnt realize Wright is seen that highly. Too much negative media spewing how he has under performed this season like he is a scrub. The kid was granted exceptional status and still was very productive in Jr. I haven't watched him much at all . I just assumed he would be taken at #1 overall so there was no point watching him as I usually only pay attention to potential Devils prospects.
I also didn't know Jiricek and Nemec are seen as that good as well. Edvinsson is a hell of a prospect and to be ranked close to him says a lot.

 

[Hisch13r]

First things first. Patrick was never viewed as highly as Wright who had a ton of hype ever since his OHL draft year where he got exceptional player status. Patrick was also a late birthday from the previous year and had a worse draft year than Wright. They aren’t very comparable.

Yeah I know all of that. I also don’t see how it changes anything I’ve said.

 

[Eggtimer]

Nope it's gotta be dogs. Hide em if you got em.

I guess it could be worse ? Clubbing baby seals or Koala bears.
I don't get how someone could actually do that for a living. ( seal hunters) . I know that is how they make their living but come on.... There is not enough money in the world for me to come even remotely close to be able to do that. Has to be the very very worst "job" in the world. What do you do for a living? " Oh , I club baby seals. Ya , I go out hunting for them , they pop their little heads up out of their holes and WHAMMO "

 

[StevenToddIves]

Oh, I didnt realize Wright is seen that highly. Too much negative media spewing how he has under performed this season like he is a scrub. The kid was granted exceptional status and still was very productive in Jr. I haven't watched him much at all . I just assumed he would be taken at #1 overall so there was no point watching him as I usually only pay attention to potential Devils prospects.
I also didn't know Jiricek and Nemec are seen as that good as well. Edvinsson is a hell of a prospect and to be ranked close to him says a lot.

Jiricek actually compares pretty well to Edvinsson, though Nemec is a different kind of player. Edvinsson is a better puck-handler and skater, but I'd say Jiricek is a better passer and shooter. They're both extremely physical and good defensively. I'd give Jiricek the edge on the basis of superior awareness and hockey instincts.

 

[Eggtimer]

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[Hisch13r]

Oh, I didnt realize Wright is seen that highly. Too much negative media spewing how he has under performed this season like he is a scrub. The kid was granted exceptional status and still was very productive in Jr. I haven't watched him much at all . I just assumed he would be taken at #1 overall so there was no point watching him as I usually only pay attention to potential Devils prospects.
I also didn't know Jiricek and Nemec are seen as that good as well. Edvinsson is a hell of a prospect and to be ranked close to him says a lot.

I mean he has underperformed. He went from a guy who was seen as like a Tavares level prospect to probably like a bit better Nico when he was a prospect. He wasn’t supposed to be challenged for that top spot at all. He’ll still end up going 1 but for some he has been bumped off of 1 and it’s not just media driven. NHL scouts have moved him out of the top spot

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Yeah I know all of that. I also don’t see how it changes anything I’ve said.

Was talking about the Nolan vibes part.

 

[Cheddabombs]

If you’re a 32 Thoughts fan or a podcast fan in general, have a listen to the Slafkovsky interview Marek and Friedman did with shortly after the Olympics. Good stuff.

Did he say he hopes to be drafted by Devils? That could sway me more if he did

 

[Eggtimer]

Did he say he hopes to be drafted by Devils? That could sway me more if he did

Yes . And he specifically mentioned " Cheddabombs" from HF as well.

 

[Cheddabombs]

Yes . And he specifically mentioned " Cheddabombs" from HF as well.

Nice to hear my hard work has paid off

Sometimes I forget thats my f***ing username here lmao

 

[My3Sons]

Nope it's gotta be dogs. Hide em if you got em.

That's not funny. I trust you are just being dramatic.

 

[NJDevs26]

 

[Hisch13r]

lol What the f*** is Marek talking about. Arizona doesn't consider this for all of eternity

 

[Cheddabombs]

Yesss Gary give us more top picks

 

[youryeah]

that would be awful for arizona lol wtf. that's some john chayka shit right there

 

[Devils731]

They put these videos out yet I still have to see so many people saying “they do this behind closed doors because it’s rigged”

 

[Eggtimer]

You’d think they could come up with a better remote for the ping pong ball controller lol. Looks like it is straight out of 1976. Reminds me of my Colecovison controller I had when I was a little whipper snapper.
what was the % likelihood of pick #2 for us. I remember for #1 but not #2.

You can see at one poit just before the last ping pong ball… the guy controlling the contraption … his eyes glossed over and you can see where my visualization on winning kicked in and controlled him to hit the button to crap out the last ball , cinching the Devils pick at #2 .
You guys are welcome .

 

[Normal Devil]

You’d think they could come up with a better remote for the ping pong ball controller lol. Looks like it is straight out of 1976. Reminds me of my Colecovison controller I had when I was a little whipper snapper

I think that controller gave me the arthritis.

 

[Guttersniped]

lol What the f*** is Marek talking about. Arizona doesn't consider this for all of eternity

 

[goonybird]

Frankly, I don't see Shane Wright beating out Sakari Manninen and Patrik Rybár for MVP of the Kenny Agostino Jamboree Olympics. Montreal should definitely pass.

 

[Team Concept]

I am still trying to figure out all of this love for Slafkovsky. Joakim Kemell outperformed him last season.

39-15-8-23 -13 for Kemell
31-5-5-10 +1 for Slafkovsky

I know Slafkovsky didn't get a ton of ice time early in the season, but Kemell also had better numbers during his 17 year old season than Slafkovsky. The stats below are for U20 SM-sarja:

38-22-14-36 +5 for Kemell
16-8-5-13 +4 for Slafkovsky

Bob McKenzie and Craig Button also have Kemell rated slightly higher than Slafkovsky.

I am beginning to lean Jiricek. I don't like the fact that Nemec is only 5-9.

 

[Hisch13r]

I am still trying to figure out all of this love for Slafkovsky. Joakim Kemell outperformed him last season.

39-15-8-23 -13 for Kemell
31-5-5-10 +1 for Slafkovsky

I know Slafkovsky didn't get a ton of ice time early in the season, but Kemell also had better numbers during his 17 year old season than Slafkovsky. The stats below are for U20 SM-sarja:

38-22-14-36 +5 for Kemell
16-8-5-13 +4 for Slafkovsky

Bob McKenzie and Craig Button also have Kemell rated slightly higher than Slafkovsky.

I am beginning to lean Jiricek. I don't like the fact that Nemec is only 5-9.

Bob has Slaf higher. I don't want either of them. Jiricek's the guy. Also Nemec isn't 5'9. He's 6 feet.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

I am still trying to figure out all of this love for Slafkovsky. Joakim Kemell outperformed him last season.

39-15-8-23 -13 for Kemell
31-5-5-10 +1 for Slafkovsky

I know Slafkovsky didn't get a ton of ice time early in the season, but Kemell also had better numbers during his 17 year old season than Slafkovsky. The stats below are for U20 SM-sarja:

38-22-14-36 +5 for Kemell
16-8-5-13 +4 for Slafkovsky

Bob McKenzie and Craig Button also have Kemell rated slightly higher than Slafkovsky.

I am beginning to lean Jiricek. I don't like the fact that Nemec is only 5-9.

First Bob McKenzie doesn’t and Craig Buttons lists are the most random lists. McKenzie surveys NHL scouts to come up with his. His latest ranking yesterday went

Wright (6 1st place votes)
Slafkovsky (2 1st votes)
Cooley (1 1st vote)
Nemec
Kemell

There’s also so much more to evaluating prospects than numbers

 

[StevenToddIves]

I am still trying to figure out all of this love for Slafkovsky. Joakim Kemell outperformed him last season.

39-15-8-23 -13 for Kemell
31-5-5-10 +1 for Slafkovsky

I know Slafkovsky didn't get a ton of ice time early in the season, but Kemell also had better numbers during his 17 year old season than Slafkovsky. The stats below are for U20 SM-sarja:

38-22-14-36 +5 for Kemell
16-8-5-13 +4 for Slafkovsky

Bob McKenzie and Craig Button also have Kemell rated slightly higher than Slafkovsky.

I am beginning to lean Jiricek. I don't like the fact that Nemec is only 5-9.

McKenzie has Slafkovsky at #2 and Kemell at #5.

Kemell played top 6 all year and on the 1PP. Slafkovsky didn't get out of the bottom 6 or get PP time until post-Olympics.

The same reasons being argued not to draft Slafkovsky high are the same arguments which were used against his closest NHL comparable Mikko Rantanen.

Simon Nemec is 6'1-195. I think he was 5'9 4 years ago.

Lastly, debating drafting on the basis of stats without watching the players is a very tough sell, because there are a ton of knowledgable people on the Devils draft boards.

 

[Eggtimer]

Not sure how much emphasis will be placed in these kids WC but it will be very interesting to see how they do ( Slaf Kiricek Nemec ) Is Cooley playing in the WC ? I have zero interest in him but some say (jackasses) that he might be a possibility for us at #2 ( please lord no. I cant see it happening )