HF Habs: 2022 HF Habs Prospect Rankings #5

[WatchfulElm]

If Roy wins, then the top 5 will be in the exact order I also see them. That's a first!

Then the rest of my top 11 would be :

6- Mailloux
7- Primeau
8- Mesar
9- Hutson
10- Harris
11- Kidney

Then I see the next tier with Beck, Dobes, Xhekaj, Heineman and Norlinder.

And the next tier with Mysak, Ylonen, RHP, Rohrer, Struble, Biondi and Dichow.

Then it really drops, because the players remaining are very long term projects or because their potential is limited.

 

[Mrb1p]

Mailloux hasnt played hockey in two years lol, its insane to claim hes a top 5 in that pool.

 

[Sagikev]

The fact Mailloux isn't 80%+ here is baffling.

Top 3 CHL scorer and Q top scorer vs dman that played what, 16 games in 2 seasons? Easy pick IMO. We might have a different discussion next summer though if Mailloux plays more but right now it's just hard to rate him at all

 

[Doc5]

Went with Mailloux here, he’s the only one with #1D upside

 

[BenchBrawl]

Went with Mailloux here, he’s the only one with #1D upside

Struble also has it.

 

[Mrb1p]

People are insane for not voting Hutson or Roy. Roy just had the 6th most productive u19 season in the past 25 years.

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[26Mats]

People are insane for not voting Hutson or Roy. Roy just had the 6th most productive u19 season in the past 25 years.

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How did Garland also make it to the 5th round before being drafted????

 

[Mrb1p]

How did Garland also make it to the 5th round before being drafted????

He was Lane Hutson sized. Another ridiculous NHL scouting oversight... Guy puts up 129 points lmao, along with all around great tools.

 

[Doc5]

Struble also has it.

Struble’s a myth, he don’t exist

 

[BenchBrawl]

Struble’s a myth, he don’t exist

Right until he comes in out of nowhere and becomes a #1D within 7 months of NHL play.

 

[Doc5]

Right until he comes in out of nowhere and becomes a #1D within 7 months of NHL play.

Then he becomes a legend

 

[Habs13]

Is Farrell really that good!? Better than Roy or Kidney!?

 

[BenchBrawl]

Then he becomes a legend

People are sleeping on him, like they are on Mailloux.

IMO our two best D prospects, with Guhle who is more in parallel because he's a different type, more like a Derian Hatcher or (better) Mike Komisarek, whereas Struble/Mailloux have the tools to be all-arounders.

Struble always getting injured is concerning though. He should change his training regimen or something.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Mailloux, followed by Primeau, Mesar, Roy, Hutson, Harris, etc

 

[Doc5]

People are sleeping on him, like they are on Mailloux.

IMO our two best D prospects, with Guhle who is more in parallel because he's a different type, more like a Derian Hatcher or (better) Mike Komisarek, whereas Struble/Mailloux have the tools to be all-arounders.

I hope you’re right, haven’t really seen much of Struble apart from highlights posted here and more often then not he’s always injured. So I don’t really have high expectations for him. If he ends up proving me wrong, I’d be ecstatic.

Exciting times for the defense group though with Guhle, Xhekaj, Barron, Harris, Mailloux, Struble and Hutson. There’s probably some lower ranked defense prospects that might surprise as well.

Also, when was the last time a recent first round pick of ours wasn’t even in the top 3-5 of our prospects when doing this kind of exercise post draft. Referring to Mesar here. Pretty good indication that our prospect pool is looking good!

 

[BenchBrawl]

I hope you’re right, haven’t really seen much of Struble apart from highlights posted here and more often then not he’s always injured. So I don’t really have high expectations for him. If he ends up proving me wrong, I’d be ecstatic.

Exciting times for the defense group though with Guhle, Xhekaj, Barron, Harris, Mailloux, Struble and Hutson. There’s probably some lower ranked defense prospects that might surprise as well.

Indeed, we have an exceptional group of young blueliners. Only thing lacking is a true, bonafide #1 defenseman. One of them may become that, but it's a longshot.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Some prospects have lower ceilings but they are the kind to reach the nhl caliber on the long run.

 

[Mrb1p]

Is Farrell really that good!? Better than Roy or Kidney!?

Kidney yes, Roy no, but hes a lot more translatable. There is some junior offense that Roy needs to shake off before hes a top 6er and theres the skating. Sean could play tomorrow and hold his own.

 

[Mrb1p]

People are sleeping on him, like they are on Mailloux.

IMO our two best D prospects, with Guhle who is more in parallel because he's a different type, more like a Derian Hatcher or (better) Mike Komisarek, whereas Struble/Mailloux have the tools to be all-arounders.

Struble always getting injured is concerning though. He should change his training regimen or something.

Why do you think Struble and Mailloux are better prospects than Barron? You mention tools but Barron has the best tools of them all. Better skater, best shooting and he has the best passing.

Some prospects have lower ceilings but they are the kind to reach the nhl caliber on the long run.

Beck, Rohrer, Mysak and Harris should probably all see NHL games if they stay on track.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Some prospects have lower ceilings but they are the kind to reach the nhl caliber on the long run.

People are sleeping on him, like they are on Mailloux.

IMO our two best D prospects, with Guhle who is more in parallel because he's a different type, more like a Derian Hatcher or (better) Mike Komisarek, whereas Struble/Mailloux have the tools to be all-arounders.

Struble always getting injured is concerning though. He should change his training regimen or something.

Struble is not good as Mailloux, they are different kind.

Why do you think Struble and Mailloux are better prospects than Barron? You mention tools but Barron has the best tools of them all. Better skater, best shooting and he has the best passing.



Beck, Rohrer, Mysak and Harris should probably all see NHL games if they stay on track.

It's Barron, then Maillioux, then Struble or Harris, etc. Barron is one rank over the rest. He clearly have the best tools already.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

People are insane for not voting Hutson or Roy. Roy just had the 6th most productive u19 season in the past 25 years.

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Mesar add Struble

I wouldn't put Hutson in our top ten. You keep spamming the thread with accusations of insanity for not having Hutson in the top 5 yet there are two players still in this poll who were just drafted 36 and 29 spots respectively, ahead of him by a scouting staff that is infinitely more knowledgeable than this collective voting group. How much further does Hutson fall if we don't take him? There is zero chance that Mesar or Beck fall anywhere close to 62 so I suppose you know more than every other NHL team's scouting staff as well?

If that doesn't outline how "insane" it is to so quickly overrate the 62nd pick of a draft that just happened then how about the fact that there were zero 5'8" dmen in the NHL last season and the only one that I even know to have played in the last 40 years is Joe Hicketts who has displayed the fact that he is too small to play in the NHL as a dman. Perhaps there may be others but likely just as obscure as Hicketts currently is.

All of this aside I was happy with the pick at 62 and am not hating on the kid but he is still something of a long shot. We are all hoping for a magical unicorn here although I think the real dice roll in picking him was hoping he hits a late growth spurt to sneak him into the realm of plausibility. The kid has great hands and a great mind although he needs to add more power to his stride as he could benefit from a little more acceleration to gain the separation that he will require. He is incredibly skinny so there is alot of work to be done there but his technique is sound so the power should come easily with added muscle.

If he hits a growth spurt I would rocket him up the rankings. To insist that he is currently a more valuable asset to this organization than far more projectable prospects who also have significant upside is more worthy of being labelled insane than viewing him as a lower percentage swing at upside that shoud be met with rempered expectations.

I am all in on cheering for the kid and I am also excited by the talent but you and others are doing a disservice to the depth and quality of this prospect pool by putting him much higher than he should be given his current size.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Voted Mesar. Add Rohrer

 

[NotProkofievian]

Hutson aint gonna be Makar.

Nor is Joshua Roy going to be a 70 point player, or a 100 point player

The fact Mailloux isn't 80%+ here is baffling.

The reason I didn't vote for him is that he just hasn't played much hockey, we don't quite know what we have. Huge guy, moves well, big shot, that's about all we know. He definitely has the potential to be a top 3 prospect for us, though.

I do have him over Joshua Roy though. I don't see much that translates in Roy.

 

[Saku K]

Some people looks too much at top end potential, some people looks too much at NHL readiness that is why you have people voting Harris or Hutson early. I prefer to try to balance them both. I voted Joshua Roy. He got drafted, lost 15 pounds, looked really good at camp, destroyed the Q at 18 years old as their leading scorer. Farrell has shown more at a higher level but is also older and smaller. Farrell could probably be a top scorer in the ahl this season or be on an nhl roster this season with less depth than the Habs. His olympics and WC proved me he could hang with the big boys. You could flip Roy and Farrell easily in this ranking and you could be proved right in the long run.

Mailloux is the tough one to rank. I feel Beck is gonna be underrated.

 

[Mrb1p]

Nor is Joshua Roy going to be a 70 point player, or a 100 point player



The reason I didn't vote for him is that he just hasn't played much hockey, we don't quite know what we have. Huge guy, moves well, big shot, that's about all we know. He definitely has the potential to be a top 3 prospect for us, though.

I do have him over Joshua Roy though. I don't see much that translates in Roy.

Whats he gonna be then? I hope he's ranked outside your top 15 if you believe that, cause if hes not a top 6er, hes AHL.