Prospect Info: 2022 8OA, Marco Kasper

[SoupNazi]

A new day brings us a new thread for discussion of Marco Kasper. Not why we should keep sucking for higher draft picks.

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[Konnan511]

Marco Kasper? More like Marco 'Klutz-per' on the ice! He couldn't score if the net was as wide as the rink!

 

[Snuggs]

Marco Kasper? More like Marco 'Klutz-per' on the ice! He couldn't score if the net was as wide as the rink!

... I didn't hear a bell.

 

[jkutswings]

A new day brings us a new thread for discussion of Marco Kasper. Not why we should keep sucking for higher draft picks.

Kasper is built like a tank. There, now everybody wins.

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

A new day brings us a new thread for discussion of Marco Kasper. Not why we should keep sucking for higher draft picks.

So, in this four page essay, I intend to elucidate on the many reasons the Detroit Red Wings should continue to avail themselves of the lottery draft system...

 

[SoupNazi]

So, in this four page essay, I intend to elucidate on the many reasons the Detroit Red Wings should continue to avail themselves of the lottery draft system...

Only if you can tie in Dan Cleary and Hossa v. Franzen will I allow it.

 

[Lampedampe]

Soo guys, how do we feel about Austria's dependence on Russian gas... Ey?

 

[Detroit Knights]

Only if you can tie in Dan Cleary and Hossa v. Franzen will I allow it.

were you expecting this to be a difficult task? I could get there in 1.5 paragraphs.

 

[ZDH]

Dino nuggets are a scam.

 

[Frk It]

Czarnik's contract expires at the end of this season. Do you think we run Kasper and Lombardi as the #1 and #2 center's in GR next year? Or do they sign a veteran?

Would like to see Kasper have a big off-season in the gym and then come in next year and be the #1C and produce something around .75 PPG, ideally.

 

[Gniwder]

Czarnik's contract expires at the end of this season. Do you think we run Kasper and Lombardi as the #1 and #2 center's in GR next year? Or do they sign a veteran?

Would like to see Kasper have a big off-season in the gym and then come in next year and be the #1C and produce something around .75 PPG, ideally.

Are you expecting Danielson to make the Wings' roster?

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

Dino nuggets are a scam.

 

[SantosHalper]

Czarnik's contract expires at the end of this season. Do you think we run Kasper and Lombardi as the #1 and #2 center's in GR next year? Or do they sign a veteran?

Would like to see Kasper have a big off-season in the gym and then come in next year and be the #1C and produce something around .75 PPG, ideally.

Re-sign Czarnik, Luff, Hirose, Gettinger, Newpower and Hutchinson. GR re-signs Didier and Spezia. Also sign Savage and Buium, Wings would have to find one d-man.

Hirose - Czarnik - Luff
Mazur - Kasper - Söderblom
Lombardi - Danielson - Gettinger
Hanas - Savage - Shine
Spezia

Wallinder - Tuomisto
X - Rafferty
Buium - Didier
Viro - Newpower

Cossa
Hutchinson

PP1
Luff(net front)
Czarnik(wall) - Kasper(slot) - Hirose(wall)
Tuomisto

PP2
Söderblom(net front)
Danielson(wall) - Mazur(slot) - Lombardi(wall)
Rafferty

PK1
Kasper-Danielson
Savage-Gettinger/Shine

Big role for Kasper and if Czarnik & Luff remains as first callups, Kasper's role gets even bigger. I think Lombardi is better suited as a winger but when Czarnik gets called up Lombardi gets center duties. Or just keep driving Lombardi in as a winger, Gettinger has played as a center this season. He seems to be jack of all trades center, winger, top-6, bottom-6.

 

[Detroit Knights]

Are you expecting Danielson to make the Wings' roster?

I actually do.

I just see waaay to much larkin in him to not think it. He showed up in preseason against players like tavares and mathews, was put out there for the 5 on 3 pk against them too and did very well. I think he is just so level headed that it'll be a foregone conclusion by end of training camp that he will make it barring major injuries.

 

[Snuggs]

Scored last night!

Figured we'd bump this name because he's got about 10 days or whatever of possible trade rumors for him.

Things have been silent regarding most prospects outside of Berggren possibly moving.

 

[cvaicunas]

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This is the kind of high quality expose I come to this site for

 

[Frk It]

Connor Zary is the guy I look at and hope Kasper can mirror over the next 2 years:

Kasper, current +2 season: .48 PPG in AHL (23 pts in 48 games)

Zary, +2 season: .47 ppg in AHL (25 pts in 53 games)
Zary, +3 season: .80 ppg in AHL (58 pts in 72 games)
Zary, +4 season: .59 ppg in NHL (29 pts in 49 games)

 

[Tatar Shots]

Connor Zary is the guy I look at and hope Kasper can mirror over the next 2 years:

Kasper, current +2 season: .48 PPG in AHL (23 pts in 48 games)

Zary, +2 season: .47 ppg in AHL (25 pts in 53 games)
Zary, +3 season: .80 ppg in AHL (58 pts in 72 games)
Zary, +4 season: .59 ppg in NHL (29 pts in 49 games)

I’ll shoot higher and say Adrian Kempe. Kempe and Kasper had very similar play styles/ skill sets as prospects.

Draft year Kempe: 0.24 ppg in SHL (11 pts in 45 games)
Draft year Kasper: 0.24 ppg in SHL (11 pts in 46 games)
Draft+1 Kempe: 0.34 ppg in SHL (17 pts in 50 games)
Draft+1 Kasper: 0.44 ppg in SHL (23 pts in 52 games)
Draft+2 Kempe: 0.51 ppg in AHL (28 pts in 55 games)
Draft+2 Kasper: 0.48 ppg in AHL (23 pts in 48 games)

Kempe then split his D+3 between the NHL and AHL.

Though looking further, Kempe took a while to really be productive in the NHL compared to where Zary is now. Didn’t realize Zary’s current numbers were that good.

 

[WaW]

Kasper's numbers are heavily skewed by starting with like 1 point in his first 17 right? Considering how much he's picked it up I'm not really worried.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Connor Zary is the guy I look at and hope Kasper can mirror over the next 2 years:

Kasper, current +2 season: .48 PPG in AHL (23 pts in 48 games)

Zary, +2 season: .47 ppg in AHL (25 pts in 53 games)
Zary, +3 season: .80 ppg in AHL (58 pts in 72 games)
Zary, +4 season: .59 ppg in NHL (29 pts in 49 games)

That's factoring Kasper's cold streak coming to the Griffins with no camp and coming back from injury. Look at his last 25 games instead. It's a better indicator of who Kasper is and likely closer to Zary's 0.8ppg in his D+3. Also, Kasper is a LOT more physical than Zary.

I hate to say this but Cory Pronman said that Kasper reminded him of Sam Bennett. Similar height/weight, though Kasper is a much better skater currently, and I think he's a better playmaker. Both are pretty physical.

 

[Gniwder]

Kasper's numbers are heavily skewed by starting with like 1 point in his first 17 right? Considering how much he's picked it up I'm not really worried.

AHL has made game logs available on their website.

TheAHL.com | The American Hockey League

theahl.com

1 pt in last 6 games. If anything i would say the 2 games against Manitoba skewed the numbers upward.

Edit: the link is to Marco's game log, not AHL main page

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

If Kasper ends up a 40 point guy who pisses the other team off and draws penalties, he is still providing an element this team is sorely lacking. I look forward to seeing his game in the NHL and I hope he can play with the same edge he showed in the SHL.

 

[Our Lady Peace]

If Kasper turns into Sam Bennett, I'll take that all day at 8th overall. Playoff Sam Bennett is a whole 'nother beast too. Players like Kasper who are not expected to drive a team but play their own role in a secondary scorer kind of way are pretty overlooked pieces on cup contenders.

I remember Tom Wilson playing on the top line in the 2018 playoffs. The guy forechecked like a wrecking ball and had enough scoring touch to fit there. I saw defensemen watch him coming and have to panic with the puck because he was so fast and huge with decent skill. Few more inches than Kasper but I think Marco has more skill in getting plays off the boards too.

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

Kasper's last two goals have been scored on Askarov and Wallstedt.

Think this guy's offense is going to be fine at the NHL level.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

Kasper's last two goals have been scored on Askarov and Wallstedt.

Think this guy's offense is going to be fine at the NHL level.

But what if those two goalies are just busts! Bustarov and Bustedt.