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GDT: 2022-23 season game 53 LA Kings vs Carolina Hurricanes @4:00pm 1/31/23

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Statto said:
That may have to happen because anyone willing to trade a LD, that is a difference making for us, is going to want assets back that will make a difference to them. Clarke won’t get traded but Spence might and whilst I’m not saying I’d want to do that we may have to. It’s the same if we are trading for a goalie in the offseason, it may take someone like Kaliyev to get the right one. The players we want to ditch won’t get us big pieces, we will be giving away players that will hurt us to lose. The likes of Walker will go for late picks or be throw ins. We need to get expectations right on this.
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They may have to do it because Blake has waited too long to “see what he’s got”. Well now everyone else knows what he has too. Last year guys like Durzi and Grundstrom still had that “untapped potential”. Well now that’s gone. Another failure of doing dumb shit like playing an offensive specialist on his off side in a defensive role and watching him get reamed and his value plummets.

Byfield, Kaliyev, Vilardi, Clarke and Spence should be untouchable, but Blake gotta Blake.
 
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Herby said:
I still think the Fiala trade was great, and I was probably the first one on the Faber train. I think he will step right in to an NHL role as soon as this season as he is one of the best defensive stoppers I have ever seen at the NCAA level. But you need to be able to score goals to compete in the NHL, and the Kings only had two first line forwards, and one of them is 35 years old. RHD was an area of strength, and really who knows the real truth on whether Faber would have signed with the Kings or not. He was certainly going back to the Gophers, no matter what, so would have been no use to the Kings this season, and there was the risk he was just going to play all 4 years and open up his options after his senior year. Faber probably preferred staying in school rather than playing in the AHL, and if the Kings couldn't find room for Clarke they probably wouldn't have for Faber.


Can we stop this nonsense? It's pathetic and embarrassing. He has been on this forum for 2 decades, you have been around for months.

You can disagree with Bland without questioning his fandom. No one is spending time on this forum pretending to be a fan of the team.
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No!
Because I have only been here for a short while,
I didn't know how long he has been here and I don't care.
It is not nonsense since it was what I truly wondered.
The world has change a lot Herby, you could be responding to what you thought is a person and it may be artificial intelligence.
I believe in freedom of thought and freedom of speech.
You know how to use the ignore button if you are back to stay.
 
Surf Nutz said:
Sure the Kings put the pedal to the metal to see what the motor can do.
Now they are pumping the breaks and driving in a controlled manner.
They need a new pad on the left side and the emergency brakes replaced.
Then they will be in the race!
Players like Fiala being let go at that age are the added horsepower that is practically never is availible.
You make that move to get and lock him up every. single. time.
The takes on here are way too critical of Pit Boss Rob Blake.
He is building a potential winner methodically.
Guys on here think injuries don't occur and there is no learning curve for young players.
It is ridiculous!
Ladies, gentlemen and transsexuals, our top two goaltenders played like ECHLers and we lost four forwards in the last month and a half.
You bring kids into a winning team , a building team, a team that is making the playoffs for the best integration possible.
You error on the side of caution when breaking new players into the league so you don't ruin them like the Edmoantown Spolilers has done so many times.
I back the Kings to keep improving into a contender as long as Goaltending gets a rebuild.
If you wanna see a truly bad performance look at your 401 k and what you invested in this season.
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Surf Nutz said:
Everyone agrees that we needed more offense.
How many times was getting a scoring winger mentioned last season
There is no one, no untapped offense here that could come anywhere near the level of Fiala.
He is the best pure offensive player on the team since Palffy as many have noted.
His snipe last night was faster than the camera could even pick up without frame by frame slow motion.
Rebuild are just that, a building process, not a snap of the fingers.
You pick up the best available for the role you have in mind, also Danault as an example, when they are there.
When guys have a weak case they have to resort to bagging on the other poster.
If your posts have a deeply true merit they will stand on there own.
You can call out peoples posts without implying they are somehow deeply deficient.
Most of your posts are so critical I wonder if you. are actually a fan or another division team.
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Eat your vegetables and you might get to leave the kiddie table.
 
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KINGS17 said:
Q: What is a good thing when leading after two periods?
A: Winning the game in regulation.

This is a laser guided, results oriented business, not horseshoes.

Horseshoes is for teams who don't claim to be contenders. The Kings are the epitome of a black hole organizaton. In today's NHL there are only three places you want to be:

1. Contending
2. Young and on your way up.
3. Tearing it apart and rebuilding.

The one you don't want to see is treading water.
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Hell I will do it for you,

Kings have lost 25 total times (OT and SO included)

1st loss to Vegas - didn't lead going into the 3rd
2nd loss to Seattle - didn't lead going into the 3rd
3rd loss to Pittsburgh - didn't lead going into the 3rd
4th loss to WSH - Led 2-0 into the 3rd, lost 4-3
5th loss to WPG - didn't lead going into the 3rd
6th loss to DAL - didn't lead going into the 3rd
7th loss to CHI - didn't lead going into the 3rd
8th loss to CGY - didn't lead going into the 3rd
9th loss to VAN - didn't lead going into the 3rd
10th loss to SEA - didn't lead going into the 3rd
11th loss to NYR - didn't lead going into the 3rd
12th loss to OTT - didn't lead going into the 3rd
13th loss to SEA - didn't lead going into the 3rd
14th loss to CAR - didn't lead going into the 3rd
15th loss to TOR - didn't lead going into the 3rd
16th loss to CBS - didn't lead going into the 3rd
17th loss to BUF - didn't lead going into the 3rd
18th loss to ARI - didn't lead going into the 3rd
19th loss to PHI - didn't lead going into the 3rd
20th loss to BOS - didn't lead going into the 3rd
21st loss to NJ - didn't lead going into the 3rd
22nd loss to DAL - didn't lead going into the 3rd
23rd loss to NSH - Led by 1 going into the 3rd
24th loss to TB - didn't lead going into the 3rd
25th loss to CAR - led by 3 going into the 3rd.

25 losses....THREE....THREE f***ING TIMES....they've led going into the 3rd and lost......and we are losing our shit because they are "weak" mentally? What the actual f***?
 
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GoldenBearHockey said:
Absolutely, tell me how many times the Kings blew a 2 or 3 goal lead......in the 3rd? I can wait....
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Do your own research on that if you have a point to make.

I am not going to look it up, because many here will recall that the Kings had an incredible record from the
2011-12 season through 2013-14 when leading after the second period. Essentially, if the Kings were leading after two periods the game was over.
 
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Bandit said:
They may have to do it because Blake has waited too long to “see what he’s got”. Well now everyone else knows what he has too. Last year guys like Durzi and Grundstrom still had that “untapped potential”. Well now that’s gone. Another failure of doing dumb shit like playing an offensive specialist on his off side in a defensive role and watching him get reamed and his value plummets.

Byfield, Kaliyev, Vilardi, Clarke and Spence should be untouchable, but Blake gotta Blake.
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Blake has held assets as long as possible in case of injuries, further evaluate talent and make moves when he is as close to possible to being a contender.
A player may trend down but potential does not evaporate, thats only in your mind.
Guys are always saying he does not play the youngsters enough.
Then he puts Durzi in a role for true growth, stands by and supports him and people get pissed.
Mac T and Blake get it from both side of this sites mouth even if it is from different posters.

bland said:
Eat your vegetables and you might get to leave the kiddie table.
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Your mind is not my matrix.
 
GoldenBearHockey said:
Hell I will do it for you,

Kings have lost 25 total times (OT and SO included)

1st loss to Vegas - didn't lead going into the 3rd
2nd loss to Seattle - didn't lead going into the 3rd
3rd loss to Pittsburgh - didn't lead going into the 3rd
4th loss to WSH - Led 2-0 into the 3rd, lost 4-3
5th loss to WPG - didn't lead going into the 3rd
6th loss to DAL - didn't lead going into the 3rd
7th loss to CHI - didn't lead going into the 3rd
8th loss to CGY - didn't lead going into the 3rd
9th loss to VAN - didn't lead going into the 3rd
10th loss to SEA - didn't lead going into the 3rd
11th loss to NYR - didn't lead going into the 3rd
12th loss to OTT - didn't lead going into the 3rd
13th loss to SEA - didn't lead going into the 3rd
14th loss to CAR - didn't lead going into the 3rd
15th loss to TOR - didn't lead going into the 3rd
16th loss to CBS - didn't lead going into the 3rd
17th loss to BUF - didn't lead going into the 3rd
18th loss to ARI - didn't lead going into the 3rd
19th loss to PHI - didn't lead going into the 3rd
20th loss to BOS - didn't lead going into the 3rd
21st loss to NJ - didn't lead going into the 3rd
22nd loss to DAL - didn't lead going into the 3rd
23rd loss to NSH - Led by 1 going into the 3rd
24th loss to TB - didn't lead going into the 3rd
25th loss to CAR - led by 3 going into the 3rd.

25 losses....THREE....THREE f***ING TIMES....they've led going into the 3rd and lost......and we are losing our shit because they are "weak" mentally? What the actual f***?
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As opposed to winning after trailing by the 3rd,

NSH, BOS, COL,

KINGS17 said:
Do your own research on that if you have a point to make.

I am not going to look it up, because many here will recall that the Kings had an incredible record from the
2011-12 season through 2013-14 when leading after the second period. Essentially, if the Kings were leading after two periods the game was over.
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Yea...same here.....3 losses out of the 25.....were blown leadds....so......22-3, yea I will take that.
 
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GoldenBearHockey said:
As opposed to winning after trailing by the 3rd,

NSH, BOS, COL,



Yea...same here.....3 losses out of the 25.....were blown leadds....so......22-3, yea I will take that.
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Very impressive reply and it must really hurt the lazies coming from one of the most agitating posters on here.
Some of you guys need to respectfully pass the torch to the next generation.
If your ego can't handle it , there is the ignore button.
 
Crickets chirp.
The button is eyeballed.
 

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KINGS17 said:
Do your own research on that if you have a point to make.

I am not going to look it up, because many here will recall that the Kings had an incredible record from the
2011-12 season through 2013-14 when leading after the second period. Essentially, if the Kings were leading after two periods the game was over.
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Yup. It was over. The confidence going into the 3rd with a lead was off the chart. Felt like they didn’t lose a single game for three years when they got a lead at any point.

Now no lead is safe. Defense? What’s that?
 
Bandit said:
Yup. It was over. The confidence going into the 3rd with a lead was off the chart. Felt like they didn’t lose a single game for three years when they got a lead at any point.

Now no lead is safe. Defense? What’s that?
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What a mess this d-corps in tatters, splattered all over manhattan - sha do bee
 
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Bandit said:
Yup. It was over. The confidence going into the 3rd with a lead was off the chart. Felt like they didn’t lose a single game for three years when they got a lead at any point.

Now no lead is safe. Defense? What’s that?
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Agreed, the Kings record was insane when leading after two periods during those three seasons.

If I remember correctly it was maybe two games. I could be wrong, but I remember Bob Miller talking about it from time to time.

Maynard said:
And because there’s a toddler spamming the f*** out of every thread, and two guys doing a never ending Toddcast.
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Brandi Blake and Stacia Robitaille. You notice how you never see them together with the toddlers.
 
KINGS17 said:
Agreed, the Kings record was insane when leading after two periods during those three seasons.

If I remember correctly it was maybe two games. I could be wrong, but I remember Bob Miller talking about it from time to time.


Brandi Blake and Stacia Robitaille. You notice how you never see them together with the toddlers.
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It still is, you just don't have the balls to admit you are wrong......22-3 when leading after 2.......I guess that's shit now
 
KINGS17 said:
Do your own research on that if you have a point to make.

I am not going to look it up, because many here will recall that the Kings had an incredible record from the
2011-12 season through 2013-14 when leading after the second period. Essentially, if the Kings were leading after two periods the game was over.
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BTW you were wrong here as well......if you go by % they were 10th, if you go by straight wins, they were 9th,

Definitely good.....but 8 teams were better....
 
Kings desperately needed this upcoming break, but by God I can't think of a worse way to go into it and I'm not surprised by some of the takes.


Having said all that, a lot of what's being said can be true.

1. Fiala was a good trade. Traded a first rounder away in a weak draft from not a good position and traded a well liked player, but was in the highest depth position is a good deal no matter how you slice it. But the team is still on pace for similar point totals from last year. Going into the season we needed scoring and it has improved, but the defense and goaltending went the opposite direction.
2. You can commend the work that TMac has done to get this group to where they are at right now, but you can criticize him for his in game management. There's been a number of times this season where the team has lost momentum and no adjustments are made. I mean taking a timeout right after the Canes tied it up when the damage has already been done? Seriously? We all knew after the Canes scores their 2nd goal that they could comeback. Should've slowed down the game and refocused them.
3. I can commend Blake for making improvements to the team like Arvidsson, Danault, Fiala, Moore, hiring Miller for the PP. And in the same breath I can criticize him for being too conservative, not acquiring a LHD when it's clearly a weakness, his bad contract signings in Petersen, Walker and Kovalchuk, not creating enough room for the Prospects to get NHL games, not addressing the goalie depth properly.


I'm firmly in the this team is good not great camp. I don't think this team is in as bad of a spot as some make it out to be, but I'm also well aware that this is still very much a flawed team that has had some stuff go their way. I don't even want to think about where this team mightve been at if Copley wasn't here or else I mightve been singing a different tune.

This team has more questions than answers at this point and they can't afford to get some of those questions wrong. Whether it's trading for a goalie or LHD or getting the lines right once everyone comes back healthy. Games like last night just cannot happen at this point in the season.
 
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kingsboy11 said:
I'm firmly in the this team is good not great camp. I don't think this team is in as bad of a spot as some make it out to be, but I'm also well aware that this is still very much a flawed team that has had some stuff go their way.
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I think the Kings have had some great luck to start the season and I really can't tell if that is luck they made or not. I never really get the feeling of absolute dominance from them, but they have shown a knack for scoring off the rush and it has been able to turn quite a few games in their favor. That's more of an eye test thing than anything, so that could be wrong. I do know they have good possession numbers, but it never feels like dominance in game if that makes sense. The other thing that concerns me is that the Kings have played 53 games and are tied with Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Calgary and Philly for 15th in the league with 20 wins. The only issue is that those teams they are tied with have played 48, 49, 50 and 51 games. That's not even getting to the goal differential being 22ns in the league.
 
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