GDT: 2022-23 season game 48 LA Kings vs Nashville Predators @5:00pm 1/21/22

[Peter James Bond II]

Kings haven't had a goalie over .910 in significant action since Campbell in 2018-2019, Blake hasn't done anything about it. In fact, it's gotten worse.

Kings haven't fixed the LHD situation in years either, in fact, it's gotten worse. Blake's attempts at reclamation projects include Edler and Maatta, but he also tried Joakim Ryan, Ben Hutton, even Dion Phaneuf--he's never replaced Muzzin/Martinez even Forbort, the solution after this many years is Sean Durzi on the left side and pray Mikey Anderson doesn't catch a cold.

Tick tock. Time's up for the "well what is he SUPPOSED to do" rhetoric, he's literally had years at these issues.

Blake has been trading his LHD; Martinez, Forbort, without replacing them...Edler was a decent 1 year stopgap, but that;s all he should have been. And the system, they have not drafred LHD. I was wondering why they took (2 RHD rd 2, 2020) Grans, when they were targeting RHD Faber and have only taken 1 LHD in Bjornfot the past few years. Why take Kirsanov, without first seeing if he would commit to coming to North America?

And they have not drafted goalies, except longshot types, like Parik and Ingham. They really felt Petersen was the man and had no backup plan, or legit top goalie prosepct in the system.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Blake has been trading his LHD; Martinez, Forbort, without replacing them...Edler was a decent 1 year stopgap, but that;s all he should have been. And the system, they have not drafred LHD. I was wondering why they took (2 RHD rd 2, 2020) Grans, when they were targeting RHD Faber and have only taken 1 LHD in Bjornfot the past few years. Why take Kirsanov, without first seeing if he would commit to coming to North America?

And they have not drafted goalies, except longshot types, like Parik and Ingham. They really felt Petersen was the man and had no backujp plan, or legit top goalie prosepct in the system.

And they clearly know it's a problem given the reports of being in on Wallstedt--the inability to do anything is damning.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

In any other market, Blake would be crucified every morning for the goaltending/LHD situations. An appalling lack of accountability is a perfect descriptor of the Kings franchise at the moment.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Honestly, it's also a little gripping to me that Todd is neutering Kupari, by telling him that he's now a defensive centerman and to carve out your career by being a good, shutdown defensive center. You can already see Kuapri
embracing this sucky, shttt narrow, small minded advice,,.,,as he's not driving to the net anymore and even tonight, was 12 feet out and had a clear shot and hesitated.

Kupari has massive skill and ability....and he may never be a 30-40 point guy, but it's like Todd has already put in his mind that he's not going to be a middle 6 guy and forget about PP time and 15 minutes....you're going to be my bigger Blake Lizotte.

BULLSHTT. That's only hurting Ras and just watch Ras become that. Much less than he can be.
The Kings front office should be thrilled, haivng their 19th overall 2018 pick become a defensive, 4th line center, due to their small minded, career loser coach.

 

[Trash Panda]

Honestly, it's also a little gripping to me, that Todd is neutering Kupari, by telling him that he's now a defensive centerman and to carve out your career by being a good, shutdown defensive center. You can already see Kuapri
embracing this sucky, shttt narrow, small minded advice,,.,,as he's not driving to the net anymore and even tonight, was 12 feet out and had a clear shot and hesitated.

Kupari has massive skill and ability....and he may never be a 30-40 point guy, but it's like Todd has already put in his mind that he's not going to be a middle 6 guy and forget about PP time and 15 minutes....you're going to be my bigger Blake Lizotte.

BULLSHTT. That's only hurting Ras and just watch Ras become that. Much less than he can be.
The Kings front office should be thrilled, haivng their 19th overall 2018 pick become a defensive, 4th line center, due to their small minded, career loser coach.

Buddy, the handling of a middle-six tweener like Kupari is literally the least of the concerns of the current state of this organization.

I admire the passion, but damn it’s misplaced.

 

[AbsentMojo]

Blake has been trading his LHD; Martinez, Forbort, without replacing them...Edler was a decent 1 year stopgap, but that;s all he should have been. And the system, they have not drafred LHD. I was wondering why they took (2 RHD rd 2, 2020) Grans, when they were targeting RHD Faber and have only taken 1 LHD in Bjornfot the past few years. Why take Kirsanov, without first seeing if he would commit to coming to North America?

And they have not drafted goalies, except longshot types, like Parik and Ingham. They really felt Petersen was the man and had no backup plan, or legit top goalie prosepct in the system.

They lost that bet on Petersen big time and its going to sting. They should plan for him being the #3 goalie and future buyout candidate. That means they need a #1 and #2. They have JQ coming off the books so they have about 6mil for a #1. Im not sure Id want Copley as the #2.. JQ its not clear he wants to keep playing and Im not sure he would be a good #2.. he's a guy that likes to play a lot. On top of that, need a solid goalie prospect that can be ready in a couple of years when the window should wide open. Thats a lot of work for the G position just to get it back to some level of normal.

 

[Maynard]

In any other market, Blake would be crucified every morning for the goaltending/LHD situations. An appalling lack of accountability is a perfect descriptor of the Kings franchise at the moment.

You can’t have accountability when the team is covered by castrated yes men on the payroll.

 

[AbsentMojo]

Honestly, it's also a little gripping to me, that Todd is neutering Kupari, by telling him that he's now a defensive centerman and to carve out your career by being a good, shutdown defensive center. You can already see Kuapri
embracing this sucky, shttt narrow, small minded advice,,.,,as he's not driving to the net anymore and even tonight, was 12 feet out and had a clear shot and hesitated.

Kupari has massive skill and ability....and he may never be a 30-40 point guy, but it's like Todd has already put in his mind that he's not going to be a middle 6 guy and forget about PP time and 15 minutes....you're going to be my bigger Blake Lizotte.

BULLSHTT. That's only hurting Ras and just watch Ras become that. Much less than he can be.
The Kings front office should be thrilled, haivng their 19th overall 2018 pick become a defensive, 4th line center, due to their small minded, career loser coach.

Kupari has size, skating and good one on one capabilty... but he's not a good play maker or scorer... Looking through all his seasons starting at youth.. he hasnt put up numbers... I think maybe he was playing a level higher than he should have a lot of seasons.. but still, he doesnt pot goals... and thats how I see him - pretty much as a very solid bottom 6 fwd and PK specialist Rasmus Kupari at eliteprospects.com

 

[mysterman2]

Kupari has size, skating and good one on one capabilty... but he's not a good play maker or scorer... Looking through all his seasons starting at youth.. he hasnt put up numbers... I think maybe he was playing a level higher than he should have a lot of seasons.. but still, he doesnt pot goals... and thats how I see him - pretty much as a very solid bottom 6 fwd and PK specialist Rasmus Kupari at eliteprospects.com

Note as well....some bad decision making tonight. Had some opportunities to dump it in and make a solid safe play and didnt execute.

 

[AbsentMojo]

Note as well....some bad decision making tonight. Had some opportunities to dump it in and make a solid safe play and didnt execute.

Yes I notice brain cramps quite often when he has the puck.. he's missing certain IQ offensively. Its interesting he is quite savvy on the PK very active stick, good positioning, aggressive.. Thats quite an important role to be good at.

 

[KINGS17]

We are the only team in the entire league who is currently in a playoff position despite having a negative goal differential.

Goal differential never lies.

I think I have heard that somewhere before.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

LMAO bunch of bitchy little girls in here over this game...Jesus Christ you would think the team gor ragdolled by the Charlotte Checkers...

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Question:
How would you use Turcotte, tomorrow?
vs.
How will TM use him? My guesses.
1. he will be scratched. 50%
2. he will use him 4C and sheltered 20%
3. he will be on wing line 4. 25%
4, he will replace Lizotte, 3C. 5% (Lizotte moves to 4C)

4 should be the only answer and is my answer.

 

[Surf Nutz]

Question:
How would you use Turcotte, tomorrow?
vs.
How will TM use him? My guesses.
1. he will be scratched. 50%
2. he will use him 4C and sheltered 20%
3. he will be on wing line 4. 25%
4, he will replace Lizotte, 3C. 5% (Lizotte moves to 4C)

4 should be the only answer and is my answer.

Kopi line unchanged
Fiala -Dan - Arvy
Iaf -Turcotte -Vil if ready or Fagemo
Lem- Lizzo - JAD

DD- Mikey
BJo-Roy
Edl-Durzi

Copley gotta get his game back , were not going anywhere with the other 2

 

[Sol]

I think it’s stupid to complain about lizotte not getting it in deep when he’s past their blue line. That’s not a lizotte issue that’s the team just being bad at defense and egg heads thinking that somehow is on lizotte

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Even though it’s commonplace now, it’s never not stunning to me how quickly and outrageously this team will fall apart in a game.

This was a quintessential loss from the Blake/Todd era. Bad goaltending puts you behind straight out of the gate. You claw back with some solid hockey to regain a lead. And then, inexplicably, like a seizure, you just fall over and give the game away.

There are some bright spots among the kids for sure, but my god is this franchise rotting from the top down.

 

[kingsfan28]

The one game Quick was doing well… the team had to have a complete collapse in the third.

the one game they get him more than 2 goals, they take a giant dump in the 3rd. Lizzotte has earned a demotion back to the 4th line. He's been bad for weeks.

 

[kingsfan28]

I think it’s stupid to complain about lizotte not getting it in deep when he’s past their blue line. That’s not a lizotte issue that’s the team just being bad at defense and egg heads thinking that somehow is on lizotte

His inability to make a simple filp of the puck gave them the gwg. He tried to play hero, thats not his job. His job is not to try and get through 3 guys, it's to get it in behind the 3 guys so the other guy on his open wing can get it. He got knocked on his ass and it was turned over. the end.

 

[johnjm22]

Kings haven't had a goalie over .910 in significant action since Campbell in 2018-2019, Blake hasn't done anything about it. In fact, it's gotten worse.

Just want to point out that goaltender SV%'s appear to be in decline league wide.

Out of all the goalies in the NHL this year that have played 20 games, only 15 have a .910+ SV%.

A .915 SV% with heavy work load is a damn near all star nowadays.

 

[Statto]

Byfields goal tells me it’s coming together for him. That dangle was one of someone whose confidence is growing. The only other guy on the roster that could score that goal is Fiala… maybe.

 

[Sol]

His inability to make a simple filp of the puck gave them the gwg. He tried to play hero, thats not his job. His job is not to try and get through 3 guys, it's to get it in behind the 3 guys so the other guy on his open wing can get it. He got knocked on his ass and it was turned over. the end.

That’s just being extremely unfair. He was past their blueline. Yeah he turned the puck over PAST their blue line. If the Kings can’t defend something that happens numerous times during a game then they have much bigger problems than Lizotte. If someone didn’t watch the game they’d think people are implying he turned the puck over near the Kings blueline

 

[kingsfan28]

That’s just being extremely unfair. He was past their blueline. Yeah he turned the puck over PAST their blue line. If the Kings can’t defend something that happens numerous times during a game then they have much bigger problems than Lizotte. If someone didn’t watch the game they’d think people are implying he turned the puck over near the Kings blueline

1 vs 3...who lost and got planted into the ice? He tried to beat 3 guys...1..2..3...THREE. Two of them got assists on the gwg. The Kings shouldn't have to defend stupidity.

 

[dman3474]

lizotte was signed as a college free agent, a free asset. Time to use him as such and include him in a trade. I like his game but tonight’s mistake shows how he gets tossed around like a play toy. You saw it against Dallas and That’s only going to get worse in the playoffs. It draws penalties, but I rather have a bigger body that can do more

Kupari is a bigger body, better hands, more potential to grow into a bigger roll. He’s getting neutered a bit at the moment but if kaliyev and Moore come back the lines should shake themselves out better for him.

Byfield will hopefully realize that he is a big guy and can create space for himself as he gets stronger. Hopefully strong enough to pull off that move with a guy draped over him.

No need to dress a guy to play him 4 minutes. If he can’t be trusted with a somewhat regular shift, he can go the way of the dodo too. Playing someone 4 minutes is not a good way to use all the assets at your disposal. Dress a 7th D or a talented first round pick instead.

Do we get to see lineup changes for tomorrow? Who knows, todd is gonna todd. Hopefully he Todd’s himself to the unemployment line

 

[Docgonzo]

The depth that the Kings relied on to start the season isn’t there now and it shows in the struggles they’re having.

JAD, Kupari and Fagemo are not Kaliyev, Moore and Vilardi. With the depth they could overcome bad goalie play and defensive breakdowns. They could roll all 4 lines, now it’s like 2&1/2 lines. Because they never all seem to roll at the same time.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Even though it’s commonplace now, it’s never not stunning to me how quickly and outrageously this team will fall apart in a game.

This was a quintessential loss from the Blake/Todd era. Bad goaltending puts you behind straight out of the gate. You claw back with some solid hockey to regain a lead. And then, inexplicably, like a seizure, you just fall over and give the game away.

There are some bright spots among the kids for sure, but my god is this franchise rotting from the top down.

Yeah, and the longer this goes on, the more it becomes acceptable.

'the culture' being win squeakers, but lose in giant blowouts was supposed to stop after they sacrificed Cal as the 'problem' but it's continued to happen. These guys can't just lose; the collapse hard in a manner I've literally never seen in the NHL. It's absolutely disgusting and commonplace.

They ALL need to go.

Just want to point out that goaltender SV%'s appear to be in decline league wide.

Out of all the goalies in the NHL this year that have played 20 games, only 15 have a .910+ SV%.

A .915 SV% with heavy work load is a damn near all star nowadays.

That's great. Tell me how close the Kings are to that bar?

I agree that save percentages are down and I don't think you mean any harm by this comment but the Kings' goaltending has sunk to the literal bottom too, it's not just 'oh they went down with the average.'