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WJC: 2021 Team USA Roster Talk

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So Lacombe vs Kleven in a tryout tonight. Kleven with the edge because Lacombe looks like he has no confidence.
 
SK94 said:
It is hard not to think what could have been with Bordeleau and Beecher. Berard-Farinacci-Brink has been really good third line but it could have been best fourth line in a whole tournament. Third line could have been Beecher-Bordeleau-Brisson. Pointless to think about it of course. Both of those guys was totally robbed tho. Least Bordeleau can still play next year.
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Definitely hard not to think about, Robertson would have been incredibly useful too.
 
I Hate Philadelphia said:
I've been watching this tournament for 15+ years and I can say with complete confidence that Cole Caufield is the WORST and most ineffective player I have EVER seen for any team in this competition. I'm not kidding, I would take a healthy scratch from team Austria over this guy, he is just absolutely useless.
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Do you post anything logical, or is it all hyperbolic nonsense, meant to incite contrarian reaction? I haven't seen a single take from you on any forum that conforms with the logical, consensus opinion....

This take, like most of your takes, is absolute garbage. If this is seriously your opinion after watching 15 years of WJC tournaments, then maybe you need to follow another sport.
 
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I predicted the team that beat Russia in the Semis, would lose in the Finals.

The Americans will win Gold this year.
 
Kudo Shinichi said:
The Boldy - Beniers - Caufield line has scored 2 goals in the tournament so far. Thats very little considering the amount of goals the US has scored. They just dont click offensively.
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Yup, just posted this in the GDT. Boldy/Berniers get all the love (and Caufield all the hate). But that lines 5on5 production is not cutting it. Really need more out of all of them going forward.
 
KingLB said:
Yup, just posted this in the GDT. Boldy/Berniers get all the love (and Caufield all the hate). But that lines 5on5 production is not cutting it. Really need more out of all of them going forward.
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Boldy does everything on that line, but it's time to mix things up, Kaliyev needs to be demoted also, Berard, Brisson, Brink, Farinacci have all earned more ice time
 
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Can't believe Kaliyev is still playing on the top line. Caufield has zero chemistry with Beniers and Boldy. Move Caufield up drop Kaliyev to the fourth line and put Brisson on the 2nd line.
 
KaseMeOutside said:
Boldy does everything on that line, but it's time to mix things up, Kaliyev needs to be demoted also, Berard, Brisson, Brink, Farinacci have all earned more ice time
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No way I brake up that third line right now. Clicking to much. Not sure Brisson has done anything to deserve promotion. His only chance tonite (feed from Turcotte on the PP) he whift on.

(and since I know you Duck fans will bring up Colangelo) him either... ;)

This is where US really misses Roberstson imo. He would work perfectly on that line.
 
KingLB said:
No way I brake up that third line right now. Clicking to much. Not sure Brisson has done anything to deserve promotion. His only chance tonite (feed from Turcotte on the PP) he whift on.

(and since I know you Duck fans will bring up Colangelo) him either... ;)

This is where US really misses Roberstson imo. He would work perfectly on that line.
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I haven't even suggested Colangelo on the ducks forum he is playing where he belongs, if I really wanted to bring my bias to the thread i'd point out how Turcotte being absolutely dreadful on faceoffs helped keep Slovakia in the game..but I am not going to do that

that said anyone but Kayilev on the top line would be more useful
 
KaseMeOutside said:
I haven't even suggested Colangelo on the ducks forum he is playing where he belongs, if I really wanted to bring my bias to the thread i'd point out how Turcotte being absolutely dreadful on faceoffs helped keep Slovakia in the game..but I am not going to do that

that said anyone but Kayilev on the top line would be more useful
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Turcotte was poor, problem is, he might still be the best of the bunch. I’m not sure where the stats are at. But I’m pretty sure all the US centers are sub .500 on face offs. Think Bonny posted that Slaggert was 0-7 last game. So if Turcotte is first on the team (or second?) do you really have a choice?
 
KingLB said:
Turcotte was poor, problem is, he might still be the best of the bunch. I’m not sure where the stats are at. But I’m pretty sure all the US centers are sub .500 on face offs. Think Bonny posted that Slaggert was 0-7 last game. So if Turcotte is first on the team (or second?) do you really have a choice?
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Not sure but someone is going to have to win some, we will be fortunate to beat Finland and we will not beat Canada or the Russians if it continues
 
KaseMeOutside said:
Not sure but someone is going to have to win some, we will be fortunate to beat Finland and we will not beat Canada or the Russians if it continues
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So I found it on the IIHF site...Turcotte was actually 55%!! Typical Ducks fan... :P

Berniers was 39%
Farinacci 71%
 
KaseMeOutside said:
if I really wanted to bring my bias to the thread i'd point out how Turcotte being absolutely dreadful on faceoffs helped keep Slovakia in the game..but I am not going to do that
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You aren’t going to but you did.

He won 12/22 FO’s. FO’s were not the problem in this game for Turcotte or the team. We won 55% of them as a team. We lost so many puck battles because Slovakia is simply a bigger and stronger team. Our players are really weak in puck battles. I get that they are smaller than the Slovakians, but we have too many players who put in very little effort to win puck battles.

It was a lot of the same problems as against Russia. When we face a big team that is going to push us around physically, we wilt all over the ice. Forwards lose puck battles and the defensemen make bad plays coming out of their zone. The only difference is that Russia has some talent to go along with their physicality. Slovakia didn’t have the talent to punish us.
 
Not a good performance, but they're moving on. QFs are always tricky - Canada and Russia didn't look great either. The team hadn't faced much adversity in awhile (they had what - 23 straights goals for?), so this should be beneficial if the coaching staff utilizes it correctly.

Too much individualistic play out of the team. They kept trying to dangle guys in the offensive zone on rushes instead of just outskating the Slovaks. Zegras in particular was guilty of this tonight.

On defense, Faber and Sanderson both struggled. The pace picks up in the knockout rounds and they were both too lackadaisical with the puck in the defensive zone.

Johnson was excellent again. He's really found his stride after an up-and-down start. Confident with the puck and skating so well.

Farinacci has really stepped up. He looks like he did back at the Hlinka, which has been a great boost after our center depth took a big hit due to Covid.

Knight was just okay. I'd like to see him make the save on that 2nd goal, especially when the opposition goalie is keeping his team in it.

I think folks are overestimating our options with Kaliyev and Caufield. You don't break up the 3rd line right now. And what has Brisson (or anyone else on the 4th line) done to earn a promotion? You could swap Kaliyev and Caufield to see if it sparks their chemistry with new linemates, but that's the only really viable option right now. We only have so many options because we're missing 5+ forwards from the team. Canada is the only team that can shoulder that many losses at forward each year and still have endless premiere forwards to move up the lineup. If Moynihan comes back healthy, you could try him on the top line since he has a history with Turcotte and Zegras, but this isn't one of those times where the coach is just stubbornly refusing to promote a deserving player (a la Zegras last year) up the lineup.
 
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KaseMeOutside said:
I haven't even suggested Colangelo on the ducks forum he is playing where he belongs, if I really wanted to bring my bias to the thread i'd point out how Turcotte being absolutely dreadful on faceoffs helped keep Slovakia in the game..but I am not going to do that

that said anyone but Kayilev on the top line would be more useful
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Turcotte was 12/22 for 55% on faceoffs.

 
My observation is just that Zegras is creating the most offense for his line, and Boldy is creating the most offense for his line. My recommendation would be to just swap them as I think Zegras could pick up 2 points per game with anyone and he could get Caufield going, and I think Turcotte/Kaliyev is better then Beniers/Caufield, so Boldy could begin to produce 5 on more 5 as well. It’s probably too late to tinker with lines now, but that’s where I would’ve started today. Power play units look good to me, though.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
You aren’t going to but you did.

He won 12/22 FO’s. FO’s were not the problem in this game for Turcotte or the team. We won 55% of them as a team. We lost so many puck battles because Slovakia is simply a bigger and stronger team. Our players are really weak in puck battles. I get that they are smaller than the Slovakians, but we have too many players who put in very little effort to win puck battles.

It was a lot of the same problems as against Russia. When we face a big team that is going to push us around physically, we wilt all over the ice. Forwards lose puck battles and the defensemen make bad plays coming out of their zone. The only difference is that Russia has some talent to go along with their physicality. Slovakia didn’t have the talent to punish us.
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In the 2nd and 3rd there were alot of lost faceoffs, especially in the offensive zone and defensive zone
 
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