2021 NHL Draft Thread

[lawrence]

I wouldn’t mind Hughes. Sure he’s related to Hughes but Luke is a huge nucks fan and I always value dmans. Also edler will be done within 4 years. Just looking ahead boys.

 

[VIPettersson]

Forget about the brother angle. Choose the BPA pleaaaaase. Remember the last time they chose the flashier headline in Local Kid Virtanen?

 

[lawrence]

Forget about the brother angle. Choose the BPA pleaaaaase. Remember the last time they chose the flashier headline in Local Kid Virtanen?

We might be in position to draft another bc boy in Kent Johnson. He’s nothing like jake though.

 

[CpatainCanuck]

We might be in position to draft another bc boy in Kent Johnson. He’s nothing like jake though.

If anything, I think drafting local players is a bad idea. Instead of arriving in a new city where their new team is their entire life, they have all the distractions of their existing friends and family. Most players are probably dedicated enough to not have the distractions become a problem, but I don't really see any benefit to "drafting the local kid".

 

[nowhereman]

If anything, I think drafting local players is a bad idea. Instead of arriving in a new city where their new team is their entire life, they have all the distractions of their existing friends and family. Most players are probably dedicated enough to not have the distractions become a problem, but I don't really see any benefit to "drafting the local kid".

I don't think you reach for the local kid but I wouldn't avoid them if the skill is there. Jake's often dispassionate commitment to the game is his issue; not his hometown. If the Canucks could net a player like Johnson out of this year's draft, that'd be a huge win.

 

[lawrence]

If anything, I think drafting local players is a bad idea. Instead of arriving in a new city where their new team is their entire life, they have all the distractions of their existing friends and family. Most players are probably dedicated enough to not have the distractions become a problem, but I don't really see any benefit to "drafting the local kid".

I didn't say go out of our way to draft the local kid, I"m just saying he might be there, and if he's the bpa at the time we draft then take him. who cares about the distraction he can live with it. I met Adam Cracknell and talked to him about playing in Vancouver and he loved it, outside of asking for tickets, there wasn't really much to worry about. but that's just me, looks like we be picking in the teens now.

 

[VIPettersson]

We might be in position to draft another bc boy in Kent Johnson. He’s nothing like jake though.

I'm not saying you shouldn't draft local kids necessarily. Just take the BPA and the rest is white noise. Whether they have connections to the organization or the proximity of where they were born should be secondary concerns.

 

[bossram]

I think Beniers will probably be selected in the top-3, before our pick. So now I'm coming around more on Eklund. EliteProspects has him as their #1. I can't say I've watched him play, but just from a statistical standpoint, kids who produce like that in the SHL at his age...are typically very good.

 

[StreetHawk]

I think Beniers will probably be selected in the top-3, before our pick. So now I'm coming around more on Eklund. EliteProspects has him as their #1. I can't say I've watched him play, but just from a statistical standpoint, kids who produce like that in the SHL at his age...are typically very good.

If you look at the bottoms, what would they ideally prefer?
1) Buffalo - what is the Eichel situation because they have their top 2 C in Eichel and Cozens. Should look to add a blueliner to go with Dahlin. Otherwise, it's completely wide open.
2) Ottawa - Probably could use a Forward or a RHD
3) Detroit - Need everything. BPA for them.
4) NJ - Have their C, though there is no size to them. Likely they go with D but, can go either way
5) Ana - Probably a C
6) SJ - Wide Open, BPA
7) Nas - ideally C, but need to think post Ekholm and Ellis. Excel at drafting and developing D
8) Dal - likely forward as they don't have a clear heir to Benn and Seguin coming up.

Van - likely D first.

 

[Fatass]

If you look at the bottoms, what would they ideally prefer?
1) Buffalo - what is the Eichel situation because they have their top 2 C in Eichel and Cozens. Should look to add a blueliner to go with Dahlin. Otherwise, it's completely wide open.
2) Ottawa - Probably could use a Forward or a RHD
3) Detroit - Need everything. BPA for them.
4) NJ - Have their C, though there is no size to them. Likely they go with D but, can go either way
5) Ana - Probably a C
6) SJ - Wide Open, BPA
7) Nas - ideally C, but need to think post Ekholm and Ellis. Excel at drafting and developing D
8) Dal - likely forward as they don't have a clear heir to Benn and Seguin coming up.

Van - likely D first.

I appreciate Kate your breakdown of the top picks, but imo teams should always (in the first round) should always go BPA, unless several players are equal, and then decide by positional need.
So if the BPA is a forward when we pick then take him. Don’t want another Juiolevi over Tkatchuk mistake. Can always trade that prospect later to fill a positional need. Imo it’s the asset value that should come first. Or am I being too simplistic?

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

You can bet the farm Jersey takes Hughes if still available.

Can’t see the Nucks drafting anyone other than a dman.

With the pieces upfront already and the lack of quality dmen, it’s too obvious.

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Jim Bob just comes out and says they are drafting a dman.

 

[lawrence]

2021 draft will be in late June as usual. Not being moved. it’s going to be a gong show since intel on some players might be missed, (all teams in the same boat). Players going higher then they should or going lower then they should intel is important. Lost bracket era starts now.

 

[Fatass]

2021 draft will be in late June as usual. Not being moved. it’s going to be a gong show since intel on some players might be missed, (all teams in the same boat). Players going higher then they should or going lower then they should intel is important. Lost bracket era starts now.

We are going to really miss Bracket.

 

[Canucks LB]

With the draft happening, not getting delayed, This is a huge opportunity for a second and third round draft picks to be basically the first rounders, with the lack of Intel on players.

Probably the best year you can pick in the mid first rounder as well

 

[StreetHawk]

2021 draft will be in late June as usual. Not being moved. it’s going to be a gong show since intel on some players might be missed, (all teams in the same boat). Players going higher then they should or going lower then they should intel is important. Lost bracket era starts now.

I’m sure all teams have been focussing on video of the draft eligible from last season and the year before that if they had late birthdays.

wide open draft. There is no consensus top pick like the past few seasons. 2017 was probably the last one since 2011 where the top picks was arguable.

 

[Fatass]

With the draft happening, not getting delayed, This is a huge opportunity for a second and third round draft picks to be basically the first rounders, with the lack of Intel on players.

Probably the best year you can pick in the mid first rounder as well

Exactly! Perfect opportunity for a team to load up with extra picks. Draft capital is key in this one. Can always move a couple lower picks to move up a bit if we see another Hoglander fall into a spot close to where we pick.

 

[y2kcanucks]

We are going to really miss Bracket.

Especially when you realize we are back to Ron Delorme as our head scout.

 

[Vector]

Chris Johnston @reporterchris
The NHL is proposing changes to the draft lottery that would see:

* teams limited to no more than two lottery wins in a five-year period
* teams only allowed to jump 10 spots with a lottery win
* a reduction in the number of picks decided by lottery from three to two

This is going to vote either this Friday or early next week. No idea if it's a total package or if only certain measures can be chosen.

Personally, since the NHL wants to stick with the lottery system, I like the first change, don't really care too much about the second change, and oppose the third. I lean more towards opposing the second but I don't care too much.

 

[lawrence]

Dont forget Seattle odds as a 3rd worst team will be put into the lottery.

 

[VanJack]

You know when you look around the league, the playoff teams are virtually set in stone. Barring some sort of miracle run, the Canucks, Flames and Sens were virtually done in the North Division.

Elsewhere, the Rangers, Devils and Sabres are basically finished in the East. In the Central, the Columbus, Nashville, Dallas and Detroit are 6-10 points below the playoff bar....although because of COVID, Dallas has played 10 games less than anybody.

In the West, the Kings, Ducks, Coyotes and the Sharks are basically 'dead teams skating'.

So they could end the season tomorrow, and only a couple of teams on the playoff bubble would feel hard done by.

 

[Bubbles]

Forget Hughes, when you have a chance to draft the next Bobby Orr, you do it.

Robert Orr at eliteprospects.com

 

[RebuildinVan]

Could also use a centre going forward..... I mean we cant expect Sutter and Beagle to keep up this pace forever

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

Seems like a prime opportunity to add a much needed defenseman.

Not sure yet which is the best/my preferred pick - or if they'll be available to us - but I'm looking at Clarke / Power / Lambos.

Do people think Luke Hughes has as much upside as any other defenseman in this draft, or are we perhaps caught on the name?

 

[lawrence]

Clarke or guether for me. Ok with eklund and beniers and Hughes too. Questionable about powers and eviddson. Would love guether.

 

[StreetHawk]

A reasonable expectation is that barring a lottery win the Canucks finish around 7-8th. So most of the top guys like Power, Beniers, Clarke, Eklund will be off the board. Realistically think Lambos, Johnson, Guenther, Are you most likely options. I like Ceulmans and Lysell as well, but Ceulmans not in the top 10, maybe mid teens like 15-17. Lysell, seen him in different mocks be around 10th and Others in the teens or twenties.