Toggle sidebar

WC: 2021 Kazakhstan Roster Talk

  • Xenforo Cloud will be upgrading us to version 2.3.5 on March 3rd at 12 AM GMT. This version has increased stability and fixes several bugs. We expect downtime for the duration of the update. The admin team will continue to work on existing issues, templates and upgrade all necessary available addons to minimize impact of this new version. Click Here for Updates
With all due respect, without Karlsson this team is probably going to concede one extra goal per game on average, if not more.

Which is definitely not going to help beat Germany, Latvia or Norway.

I'm pretty sure both sides are aware of it and this will play out in favor of Karlsson, and he will probably return to the camp after reiceiving some extra money. But this once again underlines the absurdity of the Kazakh approach.
 
ozo said:
Love your confidence when talking about things you don't even bother to investigate. Metalnikov has a long term injury so that's why he is missing out. And yes, missing two legit KHL defensemen for a nation like Kazakhstan is a big loss no matter how you spin it.
Click to expand...
Even so, for defensemen you have both Svedberg and Blacker making their WC debuts. Without the just-revealed news of Karlsson's injury, this would no doubt have been an exceptionally powerful Kazakhstani team in relation to the competition.
 
ozo said:
This indeed sounds to be true (in Russian). Hilarious if the rumor about contract is also true.
Click to expand...
What have I told you about the intrigue :sarcasm: :popcorn:

But yeah, this is a huge loss for Kazakhs and a huge gain for everyone else. It is also absolutely hilarious.
 
ozo said:
I hope you are only semi-serious with this, but ok, I'll give you that - Savchenko is not better/more valuable than any of Lokomotiv's 5 foreigners, but a powerhouse team like Lokomotiv can sign any non-foreign player they wish, yet they still chose to pick up him. How come if he is not a "legit" KHL player?

Obviously I can't build the such case for Metalnikov, as he still play for Barys, but just watch him play lol. Barys is a playoff team year in year out, unlike Dinamo Riga who actually ices all sorts of awful local players because they are local.

I don't even know how we got there. All I'm saying, Kazakhstan has a handful of good players outside naturalized players and two of them are missing the tournament.
Click to expand...

I was quite serious, but maybe you misunderstood me. I was asking what do you mean by legit? Because if it means "capable of playing at this level" is one thing, "good player at this level" is another thing. Both Savchenko and Metalnikov are non-impact players and the fact they play in KHL means nothing in international competition. They are not counted as imports and there is a team from Kazakhstan in KHL, that's the reason they are in KHL.
 
Garl said:
I was quite serious, but maybe you misunderstood me. I was asking what do you mean by legit? Because if it means "capable of playing at this level" is one thing, "good player at this level" is another thing. Both Savchenko and Metalnikov are non-impact players and the fact they play in KHL means nothing in international competition. They are not counted as imports and there is a team from Kazakhstan in KHL, that's the reason they are in KHL.
Click to expand...
By legit he means that they play in the KHL on merit rather than out of necessity/forced promotion by their federation. And "capable player at the KHL level" means loads for a team like Kazakhstan.
 
ozo said:
I was not ready for "the intrigue" so soon! Will tune in to KAZ-BLR exhibition game in thirty minutes to see how their backups look like.
Click to expand...
I don't even know if Shostak can be considered backup at this point, going by the eye test he is Belarus' best goalie now. Overall, pretty garbage roster from the Belarussian side for today's game.
 
SoundAndFury said:
I don't even know if Shostak can be considered backup at this point, going by the eye test he is Belarus' best goalie now. Overall, pretty garbage roster from the Belarussian side for today's game.
Click to expand...
Woops, I one hundred percent agree with you that Shostak so far has been better than Danny Taylor ( to the extent that if Taylor was hypothetically eligible for GB, he still might be a backup behind Bowns...) . When I said to look at backup keepers, I meant solely at Kazakh goalies - I had no idea who was in net for both teams today.
 
SoundAndFury said:
Yeah, imagine the days when Kazakhstan - Italy used to be close. With all these imports (and some internal improvement, sure) they are getting close to mid-table.. Hopefully, they don't find a new import goalie right away after Karlsson hangs them up. I guess we have to thank Skabelka for luring Pasquale to Loko and ruining that scheme.
Click to expand...

They most certainly are not mid-table in any way. They are going to be bottom-2 and they will be relegated within a couple of years again. No relegation this year and might survive one more time. Will be relegated again soon enough.
 
Vandalay Industries said:
They most certainly are not mid-table in any way. They are going to be bottom-2 and they will be relegated within a couple of years again. No relegation this year and might survive one more time. Will be relegated again soon enough.
Click to expand...
This is backed by no actual arguments whatsoever.
 
Why on earth does Panyukov play in the 4th line and 2nd PP unit?! One of their best forwards...
 
Poiquets said:
Why on earth does Panyukov play in the 4th line and 2nd PP unit?! One of their best forwards...
Click to expand...
Kazakhstan has 4 pretty even lines, he is meant to carry his line by design, probably. I mean nominally the 1st line with Shin and Rymarev definitely isn't a legitimate 1st line. It's just meant to make an even spread. Just like plugging Savitsky with Valk and Mikhailis.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Poiquets
I see. But when one of your best forwards has an icetime of 8:48, I still find it quite odd. Also, it puzzles me, because in Barys Yuri Mikhailis, the coach of both barys and Kazakshtan plays him in the top line with top guys.
 
You can bet your buttocks, Boyarkin would not see a second of ice time in this tournament if not for Karlsson deserting. Just shows how this mercenary hiring is stalling/blocking local players from breaking out and making a name for themselves.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Top Bottom