2021 - 2022 Devils Grades
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MakoSlade
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Looks about right. I would up GMTF though. Can't blame him for injuries and pathetic goaltending, and a knee-jerk reaction to fix either one on a lost year would have been a huge mistake.
I think the coaches may deserve a little leeway as well, Ruff and Nas. They can't fix injuries and goaltending. They do need to tighten up mistakes though, like weak clear attempts and silly passes on the PP resulting in scoring chances against. That is on them. But the young players grew, and they deserve credit for that.
I think the coaches may deserve a little leeway as well, Ruff and Nas. They can't fix injuries and goaltending. They do need to tighten up mistakes though, like weak clear attempts and silly passes on the PP resulting in scoring chances against. That is on them. But the young players grew, and they deserve credit for that.
AfroThunder396
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Grades are relative to my expectations for that player going into the season.
Bahl: INC
Bastian: C+
Bernier: INC
Blackwood: D
Boqvist: B-
Bratt: A
Daws: C+
Foote: INC
Geertsen: F
Gillies: F
Graves: C
Greer: C-
Hamilton: C-
Hammond: F
Hischier: A-
Holtz: INC
Hughes: A+
Johnsson: D+
Kuokkanen: D
McLeod: D
Mercer: B-
Okhotiuk: INC
Severson: B
Schmid: INC
Sharangovich B+
Siegenthaler: A-
Smith: D
Subban: C-
Tatar: C-
Vesey: C-
White: C-
Wood: INC
Zacha: C-
Zetterlund: B
Bahl: INC
Bastian: C+
Bernier: INC
Blackwood: D
Boqvist: B-
Bratt: A
Daws: C+
Foote: INC
Geertsen: F
Gillies: F
Graves: C
Greer: C-
Hamilton: C-
Hammond: F
Hischier: A-
Holtz: INC
Hughes: A+
Johnsson: D+
Kuokkanen: D
McLeod: D
Mercer: B-
Okhotiuk: INC
Severson: B
Schmid: INC
Sharangovich B+
Siegenthaler: A-
Smith: D
Subban: C-
Tatar: C-
Vesey: C-
White: C-
Wood: INC
Zacha: C-
Zetterlund: B
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Bernier: B-
Blackwood: F
Daws: C- (I’m doing a bell curve here. If not for his situation it would be no better than a D-).
Schmid: D- (another bell curve that’s probably worthy of an F).
Wedgewood: F
Gillies: F-
Hammond: G as he’s past an F.
Blackwood: F
Daws: C- (I’m doing a bell curve here. If not for his situation it would be no better than a D-).
Schmid: D- (another bell curve that’s probably worthy of an F).
Wedgewood: F
Gillies: F-
Hammond: G as he’s past an F.
Hischier gets the only A+ from me this year as he had a career offensive year, became a 2-way play driving dynamo, and showed he has the leadership to hold the team accountable.
A's are for Hughes, Bratt, Mercer, Siegenthaler, and Severson. MAYBE Sharangovich who still had a great year despite Jack only playing 49 games.
Only F's are for the coaching staff and medical team. Everyone else gets graded on a curve due to their failures.
Blackwood gets the incomplete: has to go to summer school and pass microbiology if he wants to graduate.
Everyone else is a big jumbled mess in the middle.
A's are for Hughes, Bratt, Mercer, Siegenthaler, and Severson. MAYBE Sharangovich who still had a great year despite Jack only playing 49 games.
Only F's are for the coaching staff and medical team. Everyone else gets graded on a curve due to their failures.
Blackwood gets the incomplete: has to go to summer school and pass microbiology if he wants to graduate.
Everyone else is a big jumbled mess in the middle.
I’d give Hischier an A- as his season improved tremendously but he did start slowly so I’d give him a bit off for that. I’d give Jack an A. He can’t be faulted for the injuries but when he did play he was a big difference maker. I’d give Bratt an A as well. Mercer I’d give a B+ since he just ran out of gas. Shara I’d give a B because of the slow start. I’d give Boquist a B- again due to a slow start that lasted quite a while. Bastian I’d give a B. He played his role well in my view. Graves I’d give a B. He was asked to play top pair minutes a good amount and didn’t do badly until Hamilton got injured. Given Hamilton’s statements today I’m not sure how to grade him. Before the injury he would have been an A-. Severson I’d give a B+. Siegenthaler an A-. The goalies I can’t grade based on injuries or being forced to take AP Calc B/C as a freshman. My grades seem to be relative to expectations as opposed to in a vacuum. The coaches and front office get a combined C. The young players developed but the team didn’t improve. How much was coaching how much was goalies we will see next season. As a group NJ had the season this year that I expected to happen last year with player development but lack of team success. Going into this season I was expecting an NHL .500 team which probably happens if the goaltending was solid. Right now that is my expectation for next season.
neither hughes nor siegenthaler belong in the top tier - for different reasons.
hughes: when on the ice hughes was well worth the grade. i wouldn't argue with an a+ at all. but ... he missed 33 games. that's 40% of the season, which limits his positive impact. i would give hughes a b+.
siegenthaler: of the 6 regulars on d siegenthaler had the least points (14). i am fully aware, that he was mainly deployed with defensive responsibilities and therefore had less opportunities. he outperformed expectations all our expectations by a lot. he represents the player type this teams lacks most on d. still he is no a-level defensive d. players like pesce or slavin score way more, while being at least equal to siegenthaler on defence. i would give siegenthaler a b or a b- for his great season.
glenwo2
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A+ for Bratt and Hughes
A for Nico Hischier (because of the said "starting slow" thing)
A- for Siegenthaler (pleasant surprise and perhaps the shrewdest acquisition by Fitz)
B+ Dawson Mercer
B for Damon Severson, PK Subban
B- for Yegor Sharangovich, Jesper Boqvist
C for the rest of the team (though I'd give Ty Smith a C- which showed how bad he was this year)
D for our Medical Staff (no peen jokes here, please)
F for the Coaching (mainly 'cause of the presence of Nas and the idiocy of Recchi)
A for Nico Hischier (because of the said "starting slow" thing)
A- for Siegenthaler (pleasant surprise and perhaps the shrewdest acquisition by Fitz)
B+ Dawson Mercer
B for Damon Severson, PK Subban
B- for Yegor Sharangovich, Jesper Boqvist
C for the rest of the team (though I'd give Ty Smith a C- which showed how bad he was this year)
D for our Medical Staff (no peen jokes here, please)
F for the Coaching (mainly 'cause of the presence of Nas and the idiocy of Recchi)
Poppy Whoa Sonnet
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Almost spot on, except Smith gets an F. He's completely out of the team's future plans at the moment IMO, Bahl and Okhotiuk's final stretch solidified it. How many good games did he even have this year? Did he even have 10 games we could say were quality? Smith and Blackwood's seasons were nightmares.
KovalchukFistPump
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Hughes: A- (I am taking points off because he had some sloppy turnovers that led to points against. The offensive part of his game is good, but he needs to be more well-rounded going forward).
Hischier B+ (Great second half, but mediocre first half. Looking good moving forward)
Bratt A (Breakout year for him)
Zacha D (Lazy, disappointing, etc. Harsh grade here due to his draft position but this is not a guy you win with)
Hamilton C+ (Tough second half, but hope is that this was due to his injury)
Everyone else is whatever. It's tough for me to give Siegenthaler an A given how awful defensively the team is.
Hischier B+ (Great second half, but mediocre first half. Looking good moving forward)
Bratt A (Breakout year for him)
Zacha D (Lazy, disappointing, etc. Harsh grade here due to his draft position but this is not a guy you win with)
Hamilton C+ (Tough second half, but hope is that this was due to his injury)
Everyone else is whatever. It's tough for me to give Siegenthaler an A given how awful defensively the team is.
Eggtimer
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I agree with your rankings from the A+ grades until the C grades.
D- Tatar Johnson Zacha
F - Smith , All goalies except Bernier
Guadana
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The cruelest, most relevant and most fair opinion that you can read here.
A Nico, Bratt, Hughes, Siegenthaler
B Mercer, Yegor, Bastian
C Severson, Boqvist, Daws, Nas
C- Hamilton, Subban, Johnsson, Mcleod, Vesey, Ruff
D Tatar, Zacha, Kuokkanen
D- Geertsen, Blackwood, Fitz
F Gillies
F- Smith and Recchi
I`m ok with Fitz, but I don`t like the way how he act with goalie situation.
Incomplete
Kevin Bahl (like)
Fabian Zetterlund (big like)
Alexander Holtz (ok. too early)
Jonathan Berniers (wtf again!)
Nikita Okhotiuk (big like)
Miles Wood (we missed this guy)
Andrew Hammond (meh)
Akira Schmid (not ok, but too early)
Nolan Foote (like)
A Nico, Bratt, Hughes, Siegenthaler
B Mercer, Yegor, Bastian
C Severson, Boqvist, Daws, Nas
C- Hamilton, Subban, Johnsson, Mcleod, Vesey, Ruff
D Tatar, Zacha, Kuokkanen
D- Geertsen, Blackwood, Fitz
F Gillies
F- Smith and Recchi
I`m ok with Fitz, but I don`t like the way how he act with goalie situation.
Incomplete
Kevin Bahl (like)
Fabian Zetterlund (big like)
Alexander Holtz (ok. too early)
Jonathan Berniers (wtf again!)
Nikita Okhotiuk (big like)
Miles Wood (we missed this guy)
Andrew Hammond (meh)
Akira Schmid (not ok, but too early)
Nolan Foote (like)
Billdo
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Bratt- A+
Hughes- A
Hischier- A
Siegenthaler- A
Severson- B+
Mercer- B+
Graves- B
Zetterlund- B
Okhotiuk- B
Hamilton - B-
Subban- C+
Boqvist- C+
Bahl- C+
Tatar- C
McLeod- C
Foote- C
Daws- C
Vesey-C
Naz- C
Greer- C
Schmid- C-
Geertsen- C-
Zacha- C-
Kuokkanen- D+
Smith- D
Johnsson- D
Bernier- D
Blackwood- D
Hammond- D
Ruff- D
Recchi- F-
Gillies- F--------------
The three A's would all have been A+s had they stayed healthy. The best ability is availability.
Hughes- A
Hischier- A
Siegenthaler- A
Severson- B+
Mercer- B+
Graves- B
Zetterlund- B
Okhotiuk- B
Hamilton - B-
Subban- C+
Boqvist- C+
Bahl- C+
Tatar- C
McLeod- C
Foote- C
Daws- C
Vesey-C
Naz- C
Greer- C
Schmid- C-
Geertsen- C-
Zacha- C-
Kuokkanen- D+
Smith- D
Johnsson- D
Bernier- D
Blackwood- D
Hammond- D
Ruff- D
Recchi- F-
Gillies- F--------------
The three A's would all have been A+s had they stayed healthy. The best ability is availability.
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Jersey Fan 12
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Agree with you on Nico but other than that can't see any of the others receiving A grades on a team that was nearly 20 games under .500 and on too many nights was laughably non-competitive.
I know you are not his biggest fan but Bratt looked like a play driver and produced offense with or without Hughes or Hischier. He was an even on plus minus which for a team as bad as NJ with a PP surrendering shorties so often and not being on the PK is pretty impressive. He did it without a crazy high shooting percentage and he didn't even play 18 minutes per game. I think he's tough for his size and will go to the tough areas to make a play. No, he's never going to be amazing defensively in his own zone, but I don't see the passive no effort guy you've suggested. As bad as the team was this season, Bratt, to me, deserves an A. Maybe an A- for letting his contract talks bog him down a bit at the end (just my speculation).
Jersey Fan 12
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I really did try to see it and will admit he did make strides - going to the crease at times (which he rarely did in the past).
His numbers for such a bad team increase his value but way too many times they seemed to come on the one or two goals in a one sided loss.
While it's tough for me to overlook the image of him gliding back to the zone leaving a player with far inferior speed and skill to create scoring chances.
Too many losses to continue to excuse.
I sort of look at it that he and Nico are rounding into the veterans to allow the next wave led by Hughes Mercer, Holtz, etc. to continue to develop their games. If the team stops bleeding shorties and gets stable goaltending my guess is their fancy numbers look better and the plus minus moves in their direction. They are becoming the insulation we've wanted the young guys to have while still developing elements of their own game. That's a big role and it can't be filled by mediocre vets like Johnsson and Tatar.
Eggtimer
Registered User
Liked everything but disagree with a couple grades .
Johnson is a D . Decent start but was shit after that .
Fitz is given a hard time . I think he’s done a decent job . His only faults are not getting rid of Recchi sooner and … maybe not getting another goalie as soon as Bernier and Blackwood went down . In his defence though , they didn’t know how long Blackwood would be out for snd who knows what the asking prices were on a replacement .
Guadana
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I think Fitz made decent job.
But! We are talking about rankings of the season. Not off-season or draft etc.
devils lost their goalies in the beginning of the season. that was a problem Fitz should solved. He wasnt proacgive and it cost a lot for the team.
devils pp did svck. Fitz didn’t fire Recchi. In the end devils score and missed +/- the same number of goals in pp.
Smith was bad defenseman year ago. He was good puckmove, but his skating and puckbattling was bad. Nothing new was happening in the season. But he wasn’t sent down in Utica. His game hurt devils game. If you are only eye test guy - you did see that. Because that was brain farts. If you are advanced stat guy - his stats are bad. He is one of the worst defensemen in the league. And Smith doesn’t give him time to adapt, Bahl and Okhotiuk could play a lot more games.
I did talk about Okhotiuk before the season. I rank him high not because he is Russian only. I watched his game. Im smart guy ok, I’m understand something. But I’m fockin fan. I can’t watch every game. I don’t have video tapes. I don’t have assistants.
deadline. I think Fitz should work much harder.
Team was faced different calls, and I don’t like how Fitz solved it. I understand that he has a plan, I see it.
Now I’m ok with coaching changes, I can understand why he want to safe Ruff now, and even stay with him in the beginning of the season.
I understand that we must rank his job not only by results, because this is hard when you are exist and working in Fitzys situation, I rank moves. And I don’t like his season moves. But I’m not the man who will shout “fire Fitz!”.
Johnsson was great in the beginning of the season, but I do really think he did play pretty normal as defensive forward. I like how he play in the center of the rink. His offensive game lost in the second half of the season, I understand it, but I can’t rank him lower, because I didn’t have high expectations about his production. Anyway if we will rank him lower - I can understand it. He isn’t the player Iwant to safe and see in the roster. But I really like his overall play more than what Tatar showed.
Captain3rdLine
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You can’t have Johnsson and McLeod (or Vesey really) rated higher than Tatar and Zacha. The later two were much better. Also no way Severson should have a C. That is suggesting he had a bad season. Which he did not. Was one of the best of his career. B at least. Boqvist should get a B as well in my opinion.
Captain3rdLine
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Player Grades:
Based on expectations and overall. So an expected 4th liner who played like a good 3rd liner isn’t gonna get an A but will have a better rating than an expected 2nd liner who played like a good 3rd liner.
B= Met expectations and was pretty good.
*=small sample
A: Bratt
A-: Hughes, Siegenthaler
B+: Severson, Hischier, Sharangovich, Mercer, *Zetterlund, *Bahl, *Okhotiuk
B: Boqvist, Daws, *Foote
B-: Bastian, Bernier, *Walsh (1 game)
C+: *Wood, Subban, Graves
C: Tatar, Zacha, Hamilton, Vesey, Hammond, *Holtz, White
C-: Johnsson, *Schmid, Mcleod, *Greer
D+: Blackwood, Kuokkonen (stronger finish)
D: Geersten
D-: Smith
F: Gilles
Based on expectations and overall. So an expected 4th liner who played like a good 3rd liner isn’t gonna get an A but will have a better rating than an expected 2nd liner who played like a good 3rd liner.
B= Met expectations and was pretty good.
*=small sample
A: Bratt
A-: Hughes, Siegenthaler
B+: Severson, Hischier, Sharangovich, Mercer, *Zetterlund, *Bahl, *Okhotiuk
B: Boqvist, Daws, *Foote
B-: Bastian, Bernier, *Walsh (1 game)
C+: *Wood, Subban, Graves
C: Tatar, Zacha, Hamilton, Vesey, Hammond, *Holtz, White
C-: Johnsson, *Schmid, Mcleod, *Greer
D+: Blackwood, Kuokkonen (stronger finish)
D: Geersten
D-: Smith
F: Gilles
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