Prospect Info: 2020 NHL Draft 1st Overall Pick, Alexis Lafreniere, LW

[Off Sides]

It had been? Several times in order to quell the LW log jam.

I don't have a problem with it. If his game starts to suffer because of it, then sure move him back.


But to this point, he's played it for 2 games, one of those was his best game so far. His center in those games was Strome who can't do anything right at the moment.

How would they know if he is suffering for it, they only played him at LW for one game.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

How would they know if he is suffering for it, they only played him at LW for one game.

I know, Im saying if it becomes clear after further usage.

 

[Harbour Dog]

Complaining that Alf is getting top6 minutes on his off-wing, playing next to Panarin is next level satire.

Kudos to all you guys for pretending that this is some sort of travesty and injecting humor into these uncertain times.

Please don't correct me.

 

[LokiDog]

I would tend to disagree as playing the off side, you will loose his shot. I get what you are saying, and that may be a path when get gains more confidence and establishes himself.

I think that it is a bit more than coincidence. He is here and their game have improved. If we are going to five him grief for some players, then he gets to have some credit at those that have definitively taken steps forward.

I agree, and that’s why I tried to make sure to say this I’m not saying it isn’t the coach, just that his effect isn’t quantifiable. I could have empathized that more, as the post does come across fairly anti-Quinn. My point with the rest of the post though is that, even if a couple of players have progressed under him, that does happen on every team. Not for every player, but it doesn’t specifically earmark Quinn as “a development coach” in my mind. Even giving him credit for those two, his sum result is basically average, maybe a bit above. The other aspects, like preparedness, structure, promoting chemistry are lacking. I guess my general thesis was, if he isn’t *specifically* a development specialist, where that’s where he hits home runs all day, than his other deficiencies become more glaring.

If we could actually say, yeah the structure is lacking and the line juggling is a bit frustrating but there’s no one better out there to develop this young talent than you’d live with the warts. If the reality is that he’s really no better, or only a little bit better, than most coaches at development, than I’m less inclined to raise the kids in a system without structure and constant line juggling.

 

[SA16]

People around here make it out like LW and RW are an entirely different sport.

 

[True Blue]

People around here make it out like LW and RW are an entirely different sport.

They are

 

[True Blue]

I agree, and that’s why I tried to make sure to say this I’m not saying it isn’t the coach, just that his effect isn’t quantifiable. I could have empathized that more, as the post does come across fairly anti-Quinn. My point with the rest of the post though is that, even if a couple of players have progressed under him, that does happen on every team. Not for every player, but it doesn’t specifically earmark Quinn as “a development coach” in my mind. Even giving him credit for those two, his sum result is basically average, maybe a bit above. The other aspects, like preparedness, structure, promoting chemistry are lacking. I guess my general thesis was, if he isn’t *specifically* a development specialist, where that’s where he hits home runs all day, than his other deficiencies become more glaring.

If we could actually say, yeah the structure is lacking and the line juggling is a bit frustrating but there’s no one better out there to develop this young talent than you’d live with the warts. If the reality is that he’s really no better, or only a little bit better, than most coaches at development, than I’m less inclined to raise the kids in a system without structure and constant line juggling.

It is more than just those two. You throw Fox and Lindgren into the mix as well.

With regards to structure, we need to remember that a defensive structure is being taught basically on the fly as there were two weeks of camp and no pre-season games.

 

[SA16]

They are

They are as similar as possible. It's an easy transition for most players and any player who can't do it probably isn't NHL caliber in the first place.

 

[Larrybiv]

Quinn is a mixed bag to me. There are some criticisms of him that are perfectly understandable and fair, and that extends to player development.

On the other hand, I don't think we can mention Quinn's track record on player development without looking at guys like ADA, and Buch as well. Compared to some talents where we can debate whether they came ready to run or whether Quinn helped out the pieces together, there's no doubt that ADA and Buch have clearly come a long way in their development.

Yes, and if Quinn feels he has succeeded with those 2, why would he change his "tactics" for Chytil, Kakko, Lemieux and whomever else needing the same. Certainly isnt going to change because "WE" dislike his ways. With that said, here comes a................quickie quiz.

WHO was the LAST Rangers coach that this board was at least 75% happy with?

Was it Keenan? Emile Francis? See what I mean?

There isnt a fan board out there that is 100% behind their coach. Even fans of recent cup winners. You think every TB fan likes their knuckeheaded egotistical, snot nosed coach?

Every fan has better answers on WHAT TO DO with their team, then they do.......right?

 

[LokiDog]

It is more than just those two. You throw Fox and Lindgren into the mix as well.

With regards to structure, we need to remember that a defensive structure is being taught basically on the fly as there were two weeks of camp and no pre-season games.

He’s never had a structure and neither of those two developed here. I don’t give Quinn credit for that. Fox stepped in and looked as good out of the gate as he did most of the season. Not saying he isn’t absorbing NHL level coaching, but Quinn didn’t help him evolve into something he wasn’t reaching prior. Ditto Lindgren, developed in another organization and in Hartford. Stepped in and was steady. With Buch and ADA there’s a much stronger argument that they took measurable steps forward under Quinn. With the other two, especially Fox, it’s very difficult for me to say that if this team was being coached by someone else he’d have looked any different coming straight into the NHL.

But back to the system, and preparations, this isn’t Quinn’s first year with the team. Those are clearly not strong suits of his.

 

[LokiDog]

Yes, and if Quinn feels he has succeeded with those 2, why woule change his "tactics" for Chytil, Kakko and whomever else needing the same. Certainly isnt going to change because "WE"dislike his ways. Then again.......quickie quiz.

WHO was the LAST Rangers coach that this board was at least 75% happy with?

Was it Keenan? Emile Francis? See what I mean?

There isnt a fan board out there that is 100% behind their coach. Even fans of recent cup winners. You think every TB fan likes their knuckeheaded egotistical, snot nosed coach?

Every fan has better answers on WHAT TO DO with their team, then they do.......right?

I actually loved Torts and Renney even if I was in the minority.

 

[Fugazy]

Prospect Info: - 2020 NHL Draft 1st Overall Pick, Alexis Lafreniere, LW: Part II