NBA 2020 NBA Playoffs Thread

[DangleCity]

Masai had a trade on the table that would’ve kept Kawhi in Toronto. I believe it was something like OG, FVV, Siakam and multiple picks for PG and Westbrook.

Im sure they did because they were trying to convince him to stay. Wojo and others also reported though that the trade talks with OKC were simply to leverage the Clippers into more assets which worked

 

[Cloned]

Im sure they did because they were trying to convince him to stay. Wojo and others also reported though that the trade talks with OKC were simply to leverage the Clippers into more assets which worked

If Masai had said yes, do you think OKC would’ve said no? As much as the Clippers gave up, the Raps trade would’ve been even better for OKC.

Kawhi wanted to be like Lebron and Durant and orchestrate his own super team with his best friend PG. In the process of doing that he made a bad decision that cost his old team another title run and his new team a ton of assets.

 

[DangleCity]

If Masai had said yes, do you think OKC would’ve said no? As much as the Clippers gave up, the Raps trade would’ve been even better for OKC.

Kawhi wanted to be like Lebron and Durant and orchestrate his own super team with his best friend PG. In the process of doing that he made a bad decision that cost his old team another title run and his new team a ton of assets.

Even if you want to go under the assumption that what you're saying happened. He still owed Toronto nothing and never committed to them. Youre making a hypothetical argument that if Toronto made this trade or that trade he would have stayed and are thus using that as justification for Kawhi screwing Toronto which is just ridiculous.

 

[Power Man]

 

[Cloned]

Even if you want to go under the assumption that what you're saying happened. He still owed Toronto nothing and never committed to them. Youre making a hypothetical argument that if Toronto made this trade or that trade he would have stayed and are thus using that as justification for Kawhi screwing Toronto which is just ridiculous.

Actually what I’m saying is that he should’ve stayed for (at least) one more year because that was the obvious smart decision for everyone involved.

He made a bad decision and it cost his old team, his new team, and himself.

 

[Terry Yake]

Last night Paul George said this wasn't championship or bust, two months after saying it was championship or bust on Kevin Hart's podcast.

excuses excuses excuses. not surprising at all considering they are coached by mr. "our starting 5 is still undefeated when healthy"

the clippers chemistry issues are well known, but it makes you wonder if kawhi just isn't a good locker room presence. PG doesn't give off that vibe either. pat bev and lou seem to be good locker room guys, but i think there's a problem when the guys who are supposed to "lead" the team aren't the ones giving off good vibes in the locker room. plus i'm sure it didn't rub guys like pat bev or lou, who have worked their asses off for years to get to where they are now, the right way when kawhi and PG were skipping practices throughout the season

the lakers sure dodged a bullet in failing to land PG. they'd still be in the basement right now and another decade away from contending at least

 

[Cloned]

No idea how reliable this guy is but apparently Harrell also just unfollowed the Clippers and followed the Raptors on IG.

 

[Avs_19]

Imagine how different things would be if the Clippers had Butler instead of George. They'd keep all the assets (or most of them if a sign and trade was needed) and they'd have a guy who wouldn't shy away from the moment like so many Clippers did.

This is from last summer:

Basically, the whole week of free agency is when he zeroed in on Paul George. Ya know, he didn’t start there. He made a run at Jimmy Butler first, and that was going on even during the playoffs. And he also explored Kevin Durant. ‘Kevin, would you come to the Clippers with me?’ … We’ve known the Clippers have wanted Kawhi for a very long time. But Kawhi wanted to be joined by an elite-level player. And I’m not trying to suggest that Paul was his third choice. They’re obviously friends and he loves Paul George, but Paul George wasn’t gettable. He has three more years on his contract, two before a player option. So you wouldn’t have targeted Paul George first because even Kawhi Leonard wouldn’t have thought he was available.

Report: Kawhi Leonard asked Jimmy Butler to pair up before Paul George

 

[DangleCity]

Actually what I’m saying is that he should’ve stayed for (at least) one more year because that was the obvious smart decision for everyone involved.

He made a bad decision and it cost his old team, his new team, and himself.

You can say he made a bad decision in your opinion, but he did not screw Toronto over.

 

[Cloned]

You can say he made a bad decision in your opinion, but he did not screw Toronto over.

Meh, he screwed them out of another chance at a legitimate title run. That qualifies for me.

 

[DangleCity]

Meh, he screwed them out of another chance at a legitimate title run. That qualifies for me.

Well I think its pretty obvious that you are just bitter because he signed where he said he was going to. If that qualifies as screwing Toronto, then the bar is pretty low. Seems like you just want to argue about semantics though, Kawhi may have "screwed" their chances of winning another title by leaving, but he never screwed Toronto or the organization.

 

[Cloned]

Well I think its pretty obvious that you are just bitter because he signed where he said he was going to. If that qualifies as screwing Toronto, then the bar is pretty low. Seems like you just want to argue about semantics though, Kawhi may have "screwed" their chances of winning another title by leaving, but he never screwed Toronto or the organization.

Semantics is my favourite type of argument.

 

[Terry Yake]

so it was between butler and PG and kawhi chose PG? or i wonder if butler turned the clips down and kawhi had no choice but to ask the clips to trade their entire future for PG

two completely different players in this year's playoffs

 

[Suiteness]

so it was between butler and PG and kawhi chose PG? or i wonder if butler turned the clips down and kawhi had no choice but to ask the clips to trade their entire future for PG

two completely different players in this year's playoffs

From what I read, Kawhi went to Butler first but Butler was dead set on going to Miami so that was the end of that. He then turned to Durant but he was joined at the hip to Kyrie. PG was his last option, if that didn't happen, he probably ends up with the Lakers.

 

[Terry Yake]

From what I read, Kawhi went to Butler first but Butler was dead set on going to Miami so that was the end of that. He then turned to Durant but he was joined at the hip to Kyrie. PG was his last option, if that didn't happen, he probably ends up with the Lakers.

well he sure did a great job leading the lakers on during the FA period and caused them to miss out on some good FAs

 

[Hasbro]

well he sure did a great job leading the lakers on during the FA period and caused them to miss out on some good FAs

So he’s not such a bad guy after all.

 

[Terry Yake]

So he’s not such a bad guy after all.

guess it didn't really matter for the lakers in the end

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

The Heat just exploded in the 3rd, a 20 point turnaround.

 

[Avs_19]

Never in doubt.

Dragic's shotmaking and Butler's defense brought it home.

 

[c9777666]

The Bubble Heat are apparently never gonna lose again in regulation, aren't they?

 

[Jack Straw]

The Heat are starting to look like one of those “Team of Destiny” type deals.

 

[c9777666]

The Heat are starting to look like one of those “Team of Destiny” type deals.

Or they are merely the biggest beneficiary of this outlier bubble playoff

 

[Avs_19]

He can be quiet offensively but still make game changing plays like that. Great anticipation and hustle.

 

[Jack Straw]

Or they are merely the biggest beneficiary of this outlier bubble playoff

Not necessarily different things.

 

[Avs_19]