2020-21 World Junior Championships Draft Scoring

[Cerebral]

Thanks for updating my table Soli!

 

[The Head Crusher]

Well I'll be shutting my blinds a little tighter from now on. Geez THC, you got a dossier on all of us like that?

That I do. I'll post them all sporadically over the next 2 days just so I do not spam them all at once.

Well he does live in your closet.


He only looks ar my stars when he needs a laugh

Soli's closet? I though this was @Cloned 's!!!

If I were to laugh at your stats I would also have to laugh at my own, we are pretty evenly matched.

Heh that is intense.

It's crazy to think we've been doing this draft since back when RNH was actually playing in the WJC's! I honestly can't even remember if I came up with the idea, or stole it from one of the first drafts in the general forum.

I love the idea of seeing the all-time team and all-round team! I had a really strong start in this pool back in the day, but I've really struggled over the past few seasons.

That was Nuge's return with the lockout, we have been doing this longer than the stats I have, but after the forum's migration, we lost all the posts from before 2012. So unfortunately we do not have the first 5 years to pull from. Which sucks for me because my best year was 2011/12.

 

[Cloned]

That I do. I'll post them all sporadically over the next 2 days just so I do not spam them all at once.



Soli's closet? I though this was @Cloned 's!!!

If I were to laugh at your stats I would also have to laugh at my own, we are pretty evenly matched.



That was Nuge's return with the lockout, we have been doing this longer than the stats I have, but after the forum's migration, we lost all the posts from before 2012. So unfortunately we do not have the first 5 years to pull from. Which sucks for me because my best year was 2011/12.

Teachers living in people’s closets? What a world we live in.

 

[The Head Crusher]

Teachers living in people’s closets? What a world we live in.

I like to think I live in certain people's nightmares as well.

 

[Cloned]

I like to think I live in certain people's nightmares as well.

You’re not there to educate, you’re there to torment.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

aka the theme song to THCs resurrection

 

[The Head Crusher]

Had to make some changes to the stats when I noticed a mistake, so sorry @Lakai you know knocked down 1 spot in the All-time team, but you claimed the best overall point average for the first and second round. But let us take a look at another poster's stats, @Cerebral, the man who has been hosting this game for so long.

Draft History
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	2012/13			2013/14			2014/15			2015/16
8	7. Cerebral: Alex Galchenyuk F (USA)		15	4. Cerebral: Teuvo Teravainen F (FIN)		11	4. Cerebral: Sam Reinhart F (CAN)		11	3. Cerebral: Auston Matthews F (USA)
7	10. Cerebral: Aleksander Barkov F (FIN)		9	13. Cerebral: Andrei Vasilevski G (RUS)		4	13. Cerebral: Sonny Milano F (USA)		6	14. Cerebral: Vladislav Kamenev F (RUS)
9	23. Cerebral: Johnny Gaudreau F (USA)		7	20. Cerebral: Pavel Buchnevich F (RUS)		11	20. Cerebral: Nicolas Petan F (CAN)		14	19. Cerebral: Sebastian Aho F (FIN)
6	26. Cerebral: Patrik Bartosak G (CZE)		3	29. Cerebral: Marko Dano F (SVK)		6	29. Cerebral: Lucas Wallmark F (SWE)		1	30. Cerebral: Alex DeBrincat F (USA)
4	39. Cerebral: Mikael Wikstrand D (SWE)		5	36. Cerebral: Derrick Pouliot D (CAN)		4	36. Cerebral: Sebastian Aho D (SWE)		4	35. Cerebral: Vili Saarijarvi D (FIN)
5	42. Cerebral: Tomas Hertl F (CZE)		1	45. Cerebral: Radek Faksa F (CZE)		3	45. Cerebral: Joe Hicketts D (CAN)		8	46. Cerebral: Christian Dvorak F (USA)
6	55. Cerebral: Ville Pokka D (FIN)		4	52. Cerebral: Andrei Mironov D (RUS)		2	52. Cerebral: Vitek Vanecek G (CZE)		10	51. Cerebral: Alex Nedeljkovic G (USA)
1	58. Cerebral: Anton Slepyshev F (RUS)		0	61. Cerebral: Kerby Rychel F (CAN)		2	61. Cerebral: Ondrej Kase F (CZE)		0	62. Cerebral: Chad Krys D (USA)
2	71. Cerebral: Shayne Gostisbehere D (USA)		3	68. Cerebral: Nikita Tryamkin D (RUS)		3	68. Cerebral: Jan Stencel D (CZE)		0	67. Cerebral: Damir Sharipzyanov D (RUS)
48			47			46			54
	2016/17			2017/18			2018/19			2019/20
8	7. Cerebral: Matthew Barzal F (CAN)		6	3. Cerebral: Eeli Tolvanen F (FIN)		6	7. Cerebral: Vitali Kravtsov F (RUS)		2	4. Cerebral: Alex Turcotte F (USA)
5	10. Cerebral: Pierre-Luc Dubois F (CAN)		5	14. Cerebral: Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen G (FIN)		1	10. Cerebral: Filip Zadina F (CZE)		6	13. Cerebral: Joe Veleno F (CAN)
0	23. Cerebral: Daniel Vladar G (CZE)		5	19. Cerebral: Adam Fox D (USA)		4	23. Cerebral: Adam Boqvist D (SWE)		10	20. Cerebral: Rasmus Sandin D (SWE)
6	26. Cerebral: Jonathan Dahlen F (SWE)		8	30. Cerebral: Klim Kostin F (RUS)		4	26. Cerebral: Eeli Tolvanen F (FIN)		8	29. Cerebral: Alexander Khovanov F (RUS)
4	39. Cerebral: Oliver Kylington D (SWE)		6	35. Cerebral: Kristian Vesalainen F (FIN)		6	39. Cerebral: Daniil Tarasov G (RUS)		6	36. Cerebral: Arthur Kaliev F (USA)
3	42. Cerebral: Lias Andersson F (SWE)		10	46. Cerebral: Kieffer Bellows F (USA)		4	42. Cerebral: Oliver Wahlstrom F (USA)		2	45. Cerebral: K'Andre Miller D (USA)
7	55. Cerebral: Yegor Rykov D (RUS)		0	51. Cerebral: Linus Högberg D (SWE)		1	55. Cerebral: K'Andre Miller D (USA)		4	52. Cerebral: Pavel Dorofeyev
2	58. Cerebral: Jake Bean D (CAN)		5	62. Cerebral: Conor Timmins D (CAN)		8	58. Cerebral: Ryan Poehling F (USA)		2	61. Cerebral: Daniil Zhuravlyov D (RUS)
6	71. Cerebral: Aapeli Rasanen F (FIN)		6	67. Cerebral: Joachim Blichfeld F (DEN)		2	71. Cerebral: Replacement: Ilya Morozov D (RUS)		10	68. Cerebral: Hendrik Hane G (GER)
41			51			36			50

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Cerebral is a 3-time champ, winning 3 of the first 5 years, with the last on being in 2011/12. Unfortunately, those same years' stats have been lost to us so we will have to focus on these last 8 years. I guess the saying "Always the bridesmaid, and never the bride" fits these last 8 tournaments for Cerebral, placing 4th or higher in every single year, including 3 2nd place finishes (2014,2015, 2018). When it comes to average draft score Cerebral has the highest average among all the competitors with an average of 46.63 points per tournament, eclipsing the next closest by over 2 whole points. When we look at average points per round he places 1st in the 3rd, 5th, and 9th rounds, while finishing 2nd or 3rd in 1st, 4th, and 6th rounds.

Points By Round Average
1st	8.38	2nd
2nd	5.38	5th
3rd	7.50	1st
4th	5.25	3rd
5th	4.88	1st
6th	4.50	2nd
7th	4.25	4th
8th	2.50	6th
9th	4.00	1st
Average Draft Score	46.63	1st

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Moving on to his All-Time and And Round Teams Cerebral continues to show some dominance, finishing 2nd in the All-Time team and 3rd in the All-Round Teams.

All-Time Team
F	15	4. Cerebral: Teuvo Teravainen F (FIN)
F	14	19. Cerebral: Sebastian Aho F (FIN)
F	11	3. Cerebral: Auston Matthews F (USA)
F	11	4. Cerebral: Sam Reinhart F (CAN)
F	11	20. Cerebral: Nicolas Petan F (CAN)
D	10	20. Cerebral: Rasmus Sandin D (SWE)
D	7	55. Cerebral: Yegor Rykov D (RUS)
D	6	55. Cerebral: Ville Pokka D (FIN)
G	10	51. Cerebral: Alex Nedeljkovic G (USA)
Total	95

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All-Round Team
1st	15	4. Cerebral: Teuvo Teravainen F (FIN)
2nd	9	13. Cerebral: Andrei Vasilevski G (RUS)
3rd	14	19. Cerebral: Sebastian Aho F (FIN)
4th	8	29. Cerebral: Alexander Khovanov F (RUS)
5th	6	35. Cerebral: Kristian Vesalainen F (FIN)
6th	10	46. Cerebral: Kieffer Bellows F (USA)
7th	10	51. Cerebral: Alex Nedeljkovic G (USA)
8th	8	58. Cerebral: Ryan Poehling F (USA)
9th	10	68. Cerebral: Hendrik Hane G (GER)
	90

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[The Head Crusher]

aka the theme song to THCs resurrection

 

[lakai17]

@The Head Crusher

thats awesome. I am in a keeper league and the manager does some insane stat collecting as well each year. I like to see some past picks but not all haha.

The one year I still can't believe canada cut Nuge. Then one year after DeBrincat made the USA team he got cut after I selected him early.

Each year I draft different depending on my draft position/position strength.

It's all fun to me.

 

[The Head Crusher]

@The Head Crusher

thats awesome. I am in a keeper league and the manager does some insane stat collecting as well each year. I like to see some past picks but not all haha.

The one year I still can't believe canada cut Nuge. Then one year after DeBrincat made the USA team he got cut after I selected him early.

Each year I draft different depending on my draft position/position strength.

It's all fun to me.

I find it funny that you have controlled the swing position 3 times and won 2 of those 3 times.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

this is easily thc vs cerbral and literallly....nothing...eels is impprtant

 

[lakai17]

I find it funny that you have controlled the swing position 3 times and won 2 of those 3 times.

That is fascinating to me as well. I love that feat.

 

[Paralyzer008]

Russia made some line changes.

2nd line is now Gritsyuk-Safonov-Chinakhov
3rd line is now Spirodonov-Abramov-Afanasyev

Much better.

 

[The Head Crusher]

Russia made some line changes.

2nd line is now Gritsyuk-Safonov-Chinakhov
3rd line is now Spirodonov-Abramov-Afanasyev

Much better.

Still needs to score 7 point

 

[Paralyzer008]

Still needs to score 7 point

Well, I said ONE of Gritsyuk, Firstov, Safonov or Abramov is getting 7 points.

Firstov is a healthy scratch so, not a good sign. But the other three, stay tuned.

 

[The Head Crusher]

Let us explore another team, the team that held the 1st overall pick the last 3 years in a row @McGhostbuster.

Draft History

	2012/13			2013/14			2014/15			2015/16
6	6. Ghostbuster: Mikhail Grigorenko F (RUS)		8	2. Ghostbuster: Mikhail Grigorenko F (RUS)		6	7. Ghostbuster: Pavel Buchnevic F (RUS)			Did Not Participate
7	11. Ghostbuster: Seth Jones D (USA)		4	15: Ghostbuster: Jon Gillies G (USA)		4	10. Ghostbuster: Thatcher Demko G (USA)
9	22. Ghostbuster: Niklas Lundstrom G (SWE)		6	18. Ghostbuster: Riley Barber F (USA)		9	23. Ghostbuster: Martin Reway F (SVK)
4	27. Ghostbuster: Rocco Grimaldi F (USA)		5	31: Ghostbuster: Nikita Zadorov D (RUS)		2	26. Ghostbuster: Noah Hanifin D (USA)
4	38. Ghostbuster: Martin Frk F (CZE)		2	34. Ghostbuster: Bogdan Yakimov F (RUS)		1	39. Ghostbuster: Nick Ritchie F (CAN)
4	43. Ghostbuster: Victor Rask F (SWE)		6	47: Ghostbuster: Jacob De La Rose F (SWE)		0	42. Ghostbuster: Alex Lintuniemi D (FIN)
0	54. Ghostbuster: David Musil D (CZE)		2	50. Ghostbuster: Mirco Muller D (SUI)		5	55. Ghostbuster: Vyacheslav Leshchenko F (RUS)
8	59. Ghostbuster: Miiko Salomaki F (FIN)		1	63: Ghostbuster: Marcus Soberg F (NOR) - AUTOPICK		3	58. Ghostbuster: Rinat Valiev D (RUS)
2	70. Ghostbuster: Tom Nilsson D (SWE)		1	66. Ghostbuster: Jan Kostalek D (CZE) - AUTOPICK		2	71. Ghostbuster: David Kampf F (CZE)
44			35			32
	2016/17			2017/18			2018/19			2019/20
	Did Not Participate		11	4. McGhostbuster: Casey Mittelstadt F (USA)		4	1. McGhostbuster: Jack Hughes F (USA)		10	1. McGhostbuster: Alexis Lafreniere F (CAN)
			6	13. McGhostbuster: Rasmus Dahlin D (SWE)		7	16. McGhostbuster: Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen G (FIN)		4	16. McGhostbuster: Yaroslav Askarov G (RUS)
			3	20. McGhostbuster: Jake Oettinger G (USA)		1	17. McGhostbuster: Alexis Lafreniere F (CAN)		2	17. McGhostbuster: Bowen Byram D (CAN)
			3	29. McGhostbuster: Victor Mete D (CAN)		2	32. McGhostbuster: Oskari Laaksonen D (FIN)		6	32. McGhostbuster: Kirill Marchenko F (RUS)
			1	36. McGhostbuster: Jesper Boqvist F (SWE)		4	33. McGhostbuster: Lucas Elvenes F (SWE)		5	33. McGhostbuster: Alexander Holtz F (SWE)
			4	45. McGhostbuster: Henri Jokiharju D (FIN)		2	48. McGhostbuster: Josh Brook D (CAN)		0	48. McGhostbuster: Sampo Ranta F (SWE)
			7	52. McGhostbuster: Joey Anderson F (USA)		4	49. McGhostbuster: Replacement: Milos Roman F (SVK)		5	49. McGhostbuster: Nolan Foote F (CAN)
			4	61. McGhostbuster: German Rubtsov F (RUS)		7	64. McGhostbuster: Sasha Chmelevski F (USA)		0	64. McGhostbuster: Martin Bucko D (SLO)
			3	68. McGhostbuster: Riley Tufte F (USA)		0	65. McGhostbuster: Mattias Samuelsson D (USA)		3	65. McGhostbuster: Adam Ginning D (SWE)
			42			31			35

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In the 6 of the last 8 years that McGhostbuster has drafted he has held the 1st overall pick in the last 2 years. He has used this to help him record the 3rd highest average for first-round picks. He has also excelled in the 8th round on average recording nearly 4 points. While he hasn't won a tournament yet, he has finished consistently in the middle of the pack with a 4th play finish in 2017/18.

Points by round average
1st	7.50	3rd
2nd	5.33	6th
3rd	5.00	7th
4th	3.67	6th
5th	2.83	9th
6th	2.67	8th
7th	3.83	5th
8th	3.83	1st
9th	1.83	7th
	36.50

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When looking at the All-Time and All-Round teams McGhostbuster finishes 7th in both regards.

All-Time Team
F	11	4. McGhostbuster: Casey Mittelstadt F (USA)
F	10	1. McGhostbuster: Alexis Lafreniere F (CAN)
F	9	23. Ghostbuster: Martin Reway F (SVK)
F	8	2. Ghostbuster: Mikhail Grigorenko F (RUS)
F	8	59. Ghostbuster: Miiko Salomaki F (FIN)
D	7	11. Ghostbuster: Seth Jones D (USA)
D	6	13. McGhostbuster: Rasmus Dahlin D (SWE)
D	5	31: Ghostbuster: Nikita Zadorov D (RUS)
G	9	22. Ghostbuster: Niklas Lundstrom G (SWE)
Total	73

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All-Round Team
1st	11	4. McGhostbuster: Casey Mittelstadt F (USA)
2nd	7	11. Ghostbuster: Seth Jones D (USA)
3rd	9	22. Ghostbuster: Niklas Lundstrom G (SWE)
4th	6	32. McGhostbuster: Kirill Marchenko F (RUS)
5th	5	33. McGhostbuster: Alexander Holtz F (SWE)
6th	6	47: Ghostbuster: Jacob De La Rose F (SWE)
7th	7	52. McGhostbuster: Joey Anderson F (USA)
8th	8	59. Ghostbuster: Miiko Salomaki F (FIN)
9th	3	65. McGhostbuster: Adam Ginning D (SWE)
	62

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[Paralyzer008]

Wait seriously? Ghostbuster had 1st pick three years in a row?

Lord.

I think I got 1st one year and took McDavid though. Lost, but that was fun.

 

[Snipes45]

Man that Byram kid stands out and the Avs got him? lol

 

[Soli]

Uh oh Dach...

 

[Paralyzer008]

Uh oh Dach...

That looks...bad.

 

[The Head Crusher]

Uh oh Dach...

Dach it off?

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

byfield looking ok.

 

[Del Preston]

Oh Jesus, here we go with the gun again.

 

[Paralyzer008]

Dach undergoing more X-rays tonight so no update on him.

Although that doesn't sound optimistic.

 

[The Head Crusher]

One more for tonight, the rest will be posted tomorrow. Lets go with @BoldNewLettuce.

Draft History

	2018/19			2019/20
3	5. BoldNewLettuce: Evan Bouchard D (CAN)		1	6. BoldNewLettuce: Quinton Byfield F (CAN)
4	12. BoldNewLettuce: Replacement: Barrett Hayton F (CAN)		3	11. BoldNewLettuce: Jan Jenik F (CZE)
8	21. BoldNewLettuce: Morgan Frost F (CAN)		5	22. BoldNewLettuce: Vasili Podkolzin F (RUS)
4	28. BoldNewLettuce: Martin Kaut F (CZE)		5	27. BoldNewLettuce: Ville Heinola D (FIN)
6	37. BoldNewLettuce: Emil Bemstrom F (SWE)		2	38. BoldNewLettuce: Bobby Brink F (USA)
2	44. BoldNewLettuce: Olle Eriksson Ek G (SWE)		5	43. BoldNewLettuce: Ty Dellandrea F (CAN)
6	53. BoldNewLettuce: Josh Norris F (USA)		3	54. BoldNewLettuce: Martin Hugo Has D (CZE)
4	60. BoldNewLettuce: Dmitri Samorukov D (RUS)		2	59. BoldNewLettuce: Lukas Dostal G (CZE)
1	69. BoldNewLettuce: Philip Broberg D (SWE)		3	70. BoldNewLettuce: Jamie Drysdale D (CAN)
38			29

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Lettuce hasn't been playing nearly as long as most of us so we only have the last 2 year to work with, but finished 3rd in his first year in 2018-19. While striking out on the first-round pick averaging 2 points, he does make up for it in the 3rd round (2nd best) and 7th round (1st). As he gets more drafts in this will balance out and give a better picture for us to work with.

Points by round average
1st	2.00	9th
2nd	3.50	9th
3rd	6.50	2nd
4th	4.50	5th
5th	4.00	4th
6th	3.50	7th
7th	4.50	1st
8th	3.00	5th
9th	2.00	6th
	33.50	8th

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As for his All-Time Team and All-Round Team, he rounds out the pack placing 9th in both categories. But there is lots of room for improvement.

All Time Team
F	8	21. BoldNewLettuce: Morgan Frost F (CAN)
F	6	37. BoldNewLettuce: Emil Bemstrom F (SWE)
F	6	53. BoldNewLettuce: Josh Norris F (USA)
F	5	22. BoldNewLettuce: Vasili Podkolzin F (RUS)
F	5	43. BoldNewLettuce: Ty Dellandrea F (CAN)
D	5	27. BoldNewLettuce: Ville Heinola D (FIN)
D	4	60. BoldNewLettuce: Dmitri Samorukov D (RUS)
D	3	5. BoldNewLettuce: Evan Bouchard D (CAN)
G	2	44. BoldNewLettuce: Olle Eriksson Ek G (SWE)
	44
All Round Team
1st	3	5. BoldNewLettuce: Evan Bouchard D (CAN)
2nd	4	12. BoldNewLettuce: Replacement: Barrett Hayton F (CAN)
3rd	8	21. BoldNewLettuce: Morgan Frost F (CAN)
4th	5	27. BoldNewLettuce: Ville Heinola D (FIN)
5th	6	37. BoldNewLettuce: Emil Bemstrom F (SWE)
6th	5	43. BoldNewLettuce: Ty Dellandrea F (CAN)
7th	6	53. BoldNewLettuce: Josh Norris F (USA)
8th	4	60. BoldNewLettuce: Dmitri Samorukov D (RUS)
9th	3	70. BoldNewLettuce: Jamie Drysdale D (CAN)
	44

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