GDT: 2020-21 season game 38 LA Kings vs Arizona Coyotes @7:00pm 4/7/21

[ScoreZeGoals]

Major props to Doughty for not only talking the talk after the last game, bring bringing it on the ice and playing an incredible game.

 

[Albi]

My favorite part of the game was when the Kings won. My second favorite part was when I found the kings feed and didn't have to listen to Tyson Nash. Jim fox is really annoying but that Nash dude is insufferable. Imagine sitting at a table with Jim Fox and Tyson Nash for a meal.

imagine also Bob Errey sitting at that table...

 

[cyclones22]

It was stupid as f*** when he got sent down before, and it will be stupid as f*** if they sit him at all the rest of the year, every part of his play from the points to the analytics to the eye test is strong. He'll get claimed if they don't protect him and I'm worried they've spoken loudly and clearly about what they think about him with their actions this year...

Unless they bribe Seattle, he's a goner. I'm not opposed to that depending on the draft choice. And the worst part is they trotted sorry ass MacDermid out there game after game and undoubtedly cost the team wins in the standings because of it. Just bungled the situation all together because in the end Clague is still a prime target for Seattle.

 

[SFKingshomer]

Protect Clague over Walker or trade Walker? You also have Strand that doesn't look out of place...

 

[tbrown33]

Protect Clague over Walker or trade Walker? You also have Strand that doesn't look out of place...

I would trade Walker

 

[Lt Dan]

I wish I could change my user handle to this but instead I'll use it as Austin Wagner's nickname for the rest of his career

Just out of curiosity, why can't you? Are moderator is not allowed to change their names?

Ginger Warcrimes is a pretty sweet username

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Just out of curiosity, why can't you? Are moderator is not allowed to change their names?

Ginger Warcrimes is a pretty sweet username

We can change them, I had a short lived stint as Brad Doty. I just don't think that one would go over as well

 

[Schmooley]

Do you protect 4 dmen? Doughty Roy Strand Clague. Expose or trade Walker? I think Strand and Clague is a good 3rd pair right now and start putting Clague on the power play.

 

[Lt Dan]

Do you protect 4 dmen? Doughty Roy Strand Clague. Expose or trade Walker? I think Strand and Clague is a good 3rd pair right now and start putting Clague on the power play.

I would protect Walker before Strand. they are very close in age and Walker is much more proven

 

[Schmooley]

I would protect Walker before Strand. they are very close in age and Walker is much more proven

I thought strand was much younger and had more developing to do but in that case you are right.

 

[bland]

Didn't watch the game but Clague and JAD will sit next game right?

Name one example of this happening under McLellan.

 

[Peter James Bond III]

It's insane the amount of defensemen that come out of Ontario, can play and play well: Walker, Roy, Bjornfot, Anderson, Clague and Strand (although Toby was a high pick and Anderson
had 2 NCAA Championships + team USA Cpt)

BUT, few of the forwards coming out of Ontario can flat out play, like the D ones...why? Only Jad is breaking through. Grundstrom is ok.
Vilardi and others, only moderate success.

Maybe they need to have new dev staff for forwards? Who are the forward dev staff? Glen Murray? Craig Johnson? It's just so uncanny the D prospects are actually
playing great and it's harder to become an NHL defenseman.

Damn, Clague is for real. He looked fearless and had uber confidence, while activating every time. Oh, but Todd says no such thing as confidence.
Drew talked about 'players being afraid / worried about being in the lineup' and that's probably true...go out there like Clague and take a job.
He's out there, not worrying about getting a spot...he wants top pairing. Go for it!!

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Clague looked really really good last night, composed, focused, driven, much much better than his earlier stint.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

It's insane the amount of defensemen that come out of Ontario, can play and play well: Walker, Roy, Bjornfot, Anderson, Clague and Strand (although Toby was a high pick and Anderson
had 2 NCAA Championships + team USA Cpt)

BUT, few of the forwards coming out of Ontario can flat out play, like the D ones...why? Only Jad is breaking through. Grundstrom is ok.
Vilardi and others, only moderate success.

Maybe they need to have new dev staff for forwards? Who are the forward dev staff? Glen Murray? Craig Johnson? It's just so uncanny the D prospects are actually
playing great and it's harder to become an NHL defenseman.

Damn, Clague is for real. He looked fearless and had uber confidence, while activating every time. Oh, but Todd says no such thing as confidence.
Drew talked about 'players being afraid / worried about being in the lineup' and that's probably true...go out there like Clague and take a job.
He's out there, not worrying about getting a spot...he wants top pairing. Go for it!!

Who has been down there longer than a year that isn't breaking through? Essiymont?

 

[Lt Dan]

Who has been down there longer than a year that isn't breaking through? Essiymont?

Essiymont, Dudas, Rymsha

 

[Schrute farms]

I thought strand was much younger and had more developing to do but in that case you are right.

Strand just turned 24 (Feb 17th)
Walker is 26.5 (Turns 27 Nov. 13th)

 

[Peter James Bond III]

Who has been down there longer than a year that isn't breaking through? Essiymont?

True...but you could say Amadio, Luff and Wagner (he's so fringe and no real NHL skills) did not, so much.

 

[Lt Dan]

Strand just turned 24 (Feb 17th)
Walker is 26.5 (Turns 27 Nov. 13th)

I thought that they were closer, my bad.
but I still stick with Walker over Strand

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Essiymont, Dudas, Rymsha

Dudas - 30 AHL games,
Rymsha - 31 AHL games,
Eyssimont - 148 AHL games,

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, Eyssimont is the only one who has played any substantial time in the AHL and hasn't broken in.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

True...but you could say Amadio, Luff and Wagner (he's so fringe and no real NHL skills) did not, so much.

100% those players have broken through....

Amadio - 168 NHL games, don't care how you feel about him, saying that someone who has played 168 NHL games hasn't broken into the NHL is idiotic.
Luff - 62 NHL games, more of a case, he has broken through but hasn't stuck.
Wagner - 157 NHL games, see Amadio....

 

[Lt Dan]

Dudas - 30 AHL games,
Rymsha - 31 AHL games,
Eyssimont - 148 AHL games,

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, Eyssimont is the only one who has played any substantial time in the AHL and hasn't broken in.

Shortened seasons because of the pandemic doesn't change that they still age like normal humans

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Shortened seasons because of the pandemic doesn't change that they still age like normal humans

And? The guy said forwards aren't breaking through like the D have.....and then goes on to discount Amadio, Luff, Wagner, etc.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

And? The guy said forwards aren't breaking through like the D have.....and then goes on to discount Amadio, Luff, Wagner, etc.

They are not.

Walker, Roy, Anderson, Bjornfot, Clague and Strand could make most of the 30 other NHL teams. That's 6

Jad is the only forward out of Ontario that could make the other 30 NHL teams.
This is a problem. Huge. Can you imagine of the Kings even had 3 good forwards
come out of Ontario? They would be in the playoffs.

Grundstrom and Moore were groomed mostly by the Leafs system.

 

[Lt Dan]

They are not.

Walker, Roy, Anderson, Bjornfot, Clague and Strand could make most of the 30 other NHL teams. That's 6

Jad is the only forward out of Ontario that could make the other 30 NHL teams.
This is a problem. Huge. Can you imagine of the Kings even had 3 good forwards
come out of Ontario? They would be in the playoffs.

Grundstrom and Moore were groomed mostly by the Leafs system.

There was a farmer had a dog and BINGO was his name-o

And? The guy said forwards aren't breaking through like the D have.....and then goes on to discount Amadio, Luff, Wagner, etc.

Are you really sure that you want to use these guys are examples of breaking through?
2 of the these 3 were waived and unclaimed and the third is a Ginger war criminal who is likely next to be waived

 

[Peter James Bond II]

There was a farmer had a dog and BINGO was his name-o


Are you really sure that you want to use these guys are examples of breaking through?
2 of the these 3 were waived and unclaimed and the third is a Ginger war criminal who is likely next to be waived

Most teams develop several NHL forwards and have a bitch of a time developing defensemen....the Kings are the opposite.

There are teams with #1 D picks, Brannstrom, Zboril, Fabbro, Stanley, Cal Foote, Lilegren...that can't make it and the Kings
are making their 7th rd (ROY) Free agent College (WALKER) and free agent juniors (Strand) into NHL defensemen.
It's impressive.