GDT: 2020-21 season game 13 LA Kings vs San Jose Sharks @7:00pm 2/11/21

[Raccoon Jesus]

Let's pretend Olli Maatta is out of the lineup so we can have some fun

Bjornfot - 4
Strand - 4
Clague - 15
Anderson - 19
MacDermid - 100
Doughty - 932



Maatta - 436

 

[ShonSaunders]

Career GP

Bjornfot - 4
Strand - 4
JAD - 13
Clague - 15
Anderson - 19
Vilardi - 23
Petersen - 27
Grundstrom - 39
Luff - 54
Andersson - 76
Moore - 80

11 guys in the line-up last night with less than a full season under their belts. Each of these guys are going to have rough patches, its just a matter of continuing to get them games so that they're more comfortable by the time we're trying to work Turcotte, Byfield, Kaliyev et. al. into the lineup.

This right here. People concerned about points, standings, and the play of veterans past their prime are missing the big picture. We’re watching our future develop, enjoy it.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

This right here. People concerned about points, standings, and the play of veterans past their prime are missing the big picture. We’re watching our future develop, enjoy it.

Disagree only a little.

I think it's important they're not in a shitshow environment.

As long as the play is cohesive and structured like last night (to some degree--they won't play like that all the time obv), I don't care if they end up last place.

If the play is like the previous Sharks game or the Ducks game, it's fair to be worried.

Heart/effort and some semblance of structure and learning are vital.

 

[KingTech]

Let's pretend Olli Maatta is out of the lineup so we can have some fun

Bjornfot - 4
Strand - 4
Clague - 15
Anderson - 19
MacDermid - 100
Doughty - 932



Maatta - 436

I would rather pretend no more MacDermid in the lineup but we all have our own opinions

 

[apocalypse]

Disagree only a little.

I think it's important they're not in a shitshow environment.

As long as the play is cohesive and structured like last night (to some degree--they won't play like that all the time obv), I don't care if they end up last place.

If the play is like the previous Sharks game or the Ducks game, it's fair to be worried.

Heart/effort and some semblance of structure and learning are vital.

If they play like the second sharks game, we will win more games than we have been.

 

[kilowatt]

I would rather pretend no more MacDermid in the lineup but we all have our own opinions

MacDermid is a perfect 7th defenseman candidate. Seems like a great locker room presence, can step in when needed, big body and great fighter when necessary. In an ideal world, he's in the press box.

 

[cyclones22]

I'm fine with MacD playing 10 to 15 games a year in an 82-game schedule. But he is simply not good enough to play any more than that. He's an absolute liability on defense and the eye test and metrics back it up.

 

[KingTech]

MacDermid is a perfect 7th defenseman candidate. Seems like a great locker room presence, can step in when needed, big body and great fighter when necessary. In an ideal world, he's in the press box.

i don't mind him as a 7 but playing him as a 4 is not acceptable. This year its easy to sit him for the first game of a series and if someone needs to be dealt with u can put him in the 2nd game. I see no need to put him in back to back games at all anything he needs to do can be done in the one game of 2 he will play. It will also let our improve pp to make them pay where it hurts the worse in the score sheet

 

[kilowatt]

i don't mind him as a 7 but playing him as a 4 is not acceptable. This year its easy to sit him for the first game of a series and if someone needs to be dealt with u can put him in the 2nd game. I see no need to put him in back to back games at all anything he needs to do can be done in the one game of 2 he will play. It will also let our improve pp to make them pay where it hurts the worse in the score sheet

I mean we're not playing him as a number four on purpose. We lost Walker and Roy and turns out Maatta is even worse than MacDermid. Once those first two come back, we should be rolling out:

Bjornfot - Doughty
Anderson - Roy
Clague - Walker
MacDermid

I see no issue with that this season to be honest.

 

[KingTech]

I mean we're not playing him as a number four on purpose. We lost Walker and Roy and turns out Maatta is even worse than MacDermid. Once those first two come back, we should be rolling out:

Bjornfot - Doughty
Anderson - Roy
Clague - Walker
MacDermid

I see no issue with that this season to be honest.

I disagree we could have put Bjornfot in alot soon and saved ourselves the pain of seeing him as a top 4 Hell i would have rather seen Maatta then Mac as a top 4 at least he can play defense and skate at a nhl pace. Let not pretend Mac was playing any where near the mins that Maatta was/is Yes Matta is making mistakes in his time but Mac makes the same amount of mistakes in less time and against lesser oponets

 

[Schmooley]

Maatta played well the last couple games.

 

[cyclones22]

I think Maatta is finding his footing finally. Seems to play well with Strand.

 

[Stimpythecat]

New guy, limited training camp, no preseason games, guys in and out of the lineup with injuries...

shouldn't be surprising that a couple guys are starting off slow.

 

[driller1]

I think Maatta is turning it around as well, but it boggles my mind how a cerebral defenseman like him took so long to “get it”. You’d think he’d pick it up quicker than the rookies, but that wasn’t the case. Better late than never.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

He's also playing on the third pairing, so Im not thinking too much about him.

He was brought in to be a stabilizing influence on the youth and Doughty and it's been the absolute reverse.

Glad he's alright, at least hanging in the NHL, but vs. expectations of role, he's a bust.

 

[Sleeping Dog]

I think Maatta is turning it around as well, but it boggles my mind how a cerebral defenseman like him took so long to “get it”. You’d think he’d pick it up quicker than the rookies, but that wasn’t the case. Better late than never.

The team took 3/4 of the season to “get” Todd’s system. Gotta give Matta some time. He seems to be playing better recently. If he keeps moving in the right direction, maybe he’s the player that goes to Seattle.

 

[Telos]

I like Maatta as a person, and it is clear he cares a lot and is trying really hard. We will see, but I don't think he'll be anything but a stopgap for a couple of years while the kids get ready. He's slowly trending up, but I don't think he's having system issues. His problem is between the ears, though. He is not making good, quick, decisions and is second-guessing himself all over the place.

 

[Stimpythecat]

with all the injuries, MacD and Maatta have been getting the playing time and will have a decent number of games played. They will be the ones to fulfill the defenseman exposure requirement for the draft.

 

[crassbonanza]

I like Maatta as a person, and it is clear he cares a lot and is trying really hard. We will see, but I don't think he'll be anything but a stopgap for a couple of years while the kids get ready. He's slowly trending up, but I don't think he's having system issues. His problem is between the ears, though. He is not making good, quick, decisions and is second-guessing himself all over the place.

I do think some of it is coming to a new team, with a new system and not having any preseason to get up to speed. When you know what you are expected to do system-wise you don't have to think when making a decision. He likely is going to only be a bottom 4 guy, but he has been looking a lot better lately.

 

[driller1]

with all the injuries, MacD and Maatta have been getting the playing time and will have a decent number of games played. They will be the ones to fulfill the defenseman exposure requirement for the draft.

I think Maatta has already fulfilled the exposure requirement with games from last year, rendering MacD’s exposure games moot.