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Speculation: 2020-21 LA Kings News/Rumors/Roster Discussion Part V

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I'd offer him two deals.

3 years, 3.75M
4 years, 3.25M

Willing to go up .25M on either deal. That's plenty reasonable considering the comps.

He wants more than that, then goodbye.
 
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YP44 said:
the discussion is about re-signing or trading. If he is re-signed it is not about this year.
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Fair enough, I don't think it matters all that much next year either.


Ziggy Stardust said:
It does when the organization claims that they're ready to take the next step, then proceed to trade their most productive LWer with nobody in line to replace his production or ice time.

For those who think just shoving prospects into the lineup is the solution, then I guess it doesn't matter.
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You should stop believing what "the organization" tells you and use your eyes instead. This team is posed to finish bottom 5 in the league. The "next step" isn't all that impressive. And I have never advocated "just shoving prospects into the lineup".
 
Bandit said:
You should stop believing what "the organization" tells you and use your eyes instead. This team is posed to finish bottom 5 in the league. The "next step" isn't all that impressive. And I have never advocated "just shoving prospects into the lineup".
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Not saying you said that, but many in favor of dumping Iafallo favor that direction. I know what the Kings communicate to the fans is just PR fluff to sell more tickets, but I’m also of the belief that they legitimately are trying to get better.

A lot depends on what the return they get for Iafallo. Getting more second round picks and a marginal prospect for him won’t accomplish much or help the team get better. This isn’t like they’re trading away a Dwight King like player.

And to fill Iafallo’s spot via free agency might end up costing more, and could be for an older player who may not work out here, which has occurred quite often in the past.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
Yep keep in mind he's also an RFA.

Even if he doesn't always bring it, when he does, he's high speed and skill and feistyness. Kings havne't had an 'instant offense' guy like ever.
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If the Kings had a legit second line. AA would offer the perfect amount of speed/skill for a third liner that platoons higher in the lineup for injuries etc. Unfortunately he isn’t consistent enough creating chances/production to be a lock second liner, on a legit contender.

Which is a round about way of saying, I’m ok with him on the Kings for the time being.
 
Jason Squirties said:
I love how people praise Iafallo for playing the right way and others bitch about Kempe and his inconsistency yet their production is nearly identical you have one playing with Kopitar and Brown and the other playing with fading and failure to launch.
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That’s cause Kempe looks lost 5on5 no matter who he plays with. Really only looks comfortable getting “slingshooted” (is that a word) on the power play.
 
lumbergh said:
I don’t get why folks are okay with trading Iafallo for a late first even. That kind of pick has a 50/50 chance of ending up as an NHL player anywhere near as good as Iafallo in, like 4 years.
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If his contract demands are too high, the Kings have no choice.

If they do trade him, I would prefer it be for a prospect that's closer to the NHL, rather than a late 1st round pick.

Some have suggested Sandin or Robertson from the Leafs. Personally I don't think Iafallo is worth that much, but those guys have some NHL games under their belt and have been good in the AHL, so they could possibly be ready this upcoming season. Those types of prospects would be a good fit for us.
 
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johnjm22 said:
I'd offer him two deals.

3 years, 3.75M
4 years, 3.25M

Willing to go up .25M on either deal. That's plenty reasonable considering the comps.

He wants more than that, then goodbye.
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What comps are good for Iafallo? It's hard to determine right now. He's quite similar to Johnson and Killorn in TB, they make a lot more than that.
 
The reason I can see Blake trading Iafallo is if he gets a 1st round pick and maybe something else, that help builds up an arsenal for a bigger move. I don't see Blake trading him anything less than a pretty substantial haul because of reasons that have been mentioned is that he fits great with the team and fulfills a role and we don't have any player ready to immediately step in and take that spot except for maybe Kempe, but even then they're different kind of players.

I bet Iafallo stays, but I can easily see a cup contending team getting desperate and offer a first.
 
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Fishhead said:
What comps are good for Iafallo? It's hard to determine right now. He's quite similar to Johnson and Killorn in TB, they make a lot more than that.
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The recent Toffoli and Pearson signings. Both wingers. Same age as well.
 
johnjm22 said:
The recent Toffoli and Pearson signings. Both wingers. Same age as well.
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Yea, he's probably in between those two. He's a lot better than Pearson, though. I'd be surprised if it was less than 4, certainly not 4 years at 3.25. It's hard to get a read on contracts with the pandemic.
 
I still think they have a deal in place and announce it after the expansion draft. They say thats not what they are doing but on the broadcast they talk about him like hes part of the next core going forward not someone they are trading or trying to bargain with.
 
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lumbergh said:
I don’t get why folks are okay with trading Iafallo for a late first even. That kind of pick has a 50/50 chance of ending up as an NHL player anywhere near as good as Iafallo in, like 4 years.
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The reason why I would be ok with that is because the kings could then take that 1st and use it as part of a package to get a top 4 LHD with some snarl.

Other teams generally aren't trading 1sts because with the flat cap, they need that ELC.

So I would be good with trading Iafallo only if it nets us a 1st.


Edit: I would rather keep him at 3 years at $3.5-3.75 million
 
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I saw some people mention that Hoven indicated the kings would have taken Byfield 1OA. Does anyone have a link for that?

Thanks in advance.
 
Fishhead said:
Yea, he's probably in between those two. He's a lot better than Pearson, though. I'd be surprised if it was less than 4, certainly not 4 years at 3.25. It's hard to get a read on contracts with the pandemic.
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I don't know about that. They seem about the same.
 
johnjm22 said:
If his contract demands are too high, the Kings have no choice.

If they do trade him, I would prefer it be for a prospect that's closer to the NHL, rather than a late 1st round pick.

Some have suggested Sandin or Robertson from the Leafs. Personally I don't think Iafallo is worth that much, but those guys have some NHL games under their belt and have been good in the AHL, so they could possibly be ready this upcoming season. Those types of prospects would be a good fit for us.
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Yeah see thats the flipside--i wouldn't be against Iafallo + a small add to get an NHL-ready youngster or killer prospect. I'd feel a lot better about that than slinging him for a nondescript late pick.
 
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