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I mean, saying this draft does not have elite talent and next years draft will be better is all speculation.

This is stuff I read since 2003 when I started to follow the draft. It means nothing to me.

Sometimes people were dead on and sometimes people were terribly wrong.
 
Frolov 6'3 said:
I mean, saying this draft does not have elite talent and next years draft will be better is all speculation.

This is stuff I read since 2003 when I started to follow the draft. It means nothing to me.

Sometimes people were dead on and sometimes people were terribly wrong.
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If you look at the depth and number of NHL players who enjoyed long successful careers, people were definitely right about the 2003 draft.
 
Herby said:
Well, whatever happens it's going to generate a lot of discussion. I think the only scenario that almost all fans would be cool with is taking Byram if he falls to 5. Even someone like me who wants to add more skill up front would be fine with that because the value is to much to pass up. But at this point it seems unlikely he falls to #5.

Blake's success as Kings GM is going to come down to what he does in the 2019 and 2020 drafts. He needs to find a franchise forward in one of these drafts.
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The way I see it, Blake has been desperately trying to add some talent in the forward positions since he took over. The Kovy signing, Iafallo, Lizzot now bringing Prokorkin over. If Byram does fall to 5, I think they got to take him but it will be bitter sweet for the brass since their expectations before the balls dropped was to select a franchise forward this draft.
 
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kings11 said:
Alex Turcotee is without a doubt the 3rd best prospect in tis class and will fall because of his hip injury which is a boon for us. As expect Podzolkin to slip in this draft as teams in the top 10 dont want to wait 2+ years for the kid..
NJ- Hughes
NYR- Kakko
CBH- Byram
COL- Dach
LA- Turcotte
DET- Cozens
BUF- Zegras
EDM- Boldy
ANA- Caufield
VAN- Kaliyev

If i get this right, im headed straight to Vegas!! lol
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Krebs will definitely be off the board, before Kaliyev. He may go as high as 5 even. If Byram and
Turcotte are gone by the Kings pick, could be any on that list except Kaliyev won't go that high,
but Krebs has an outside chance.
 
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I don't really follow prospects at all, but from what everyone is saying it sounds like after the first 4 picks (If guys like Byram and Turcotte go 3rd and 4th) there won't really be any elite level talent left. Is that correct? Pretty discouraging. If that's the case I can't help but wonder if it might be better to try to trade back a little bit and try to get one of Caufield or Newhook. Or who knows, maybe package our Toronto pick with something else and move into the top 10 (If possible) and select one of those two players.
 
people are starting to sell me more and more on taking Byram. I have a bias to a forward with a top 5 but Defense is such an organizational need.
 
I see Kupari\Vilardi* as future wingers. I just get this feeling we are drafting Kirby Dach. Big, skilled with 1C potential. There is no one in the farm system that even comes close to his potential.
 
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Mats26 said:
I see Kupari\Vilardi* as future wingers. I just get this feeling we are drafting Kirby Dach. Big, skilled with 1C potential. There is no one in the farm system that even comes close to his potential.
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Injuries aside and the fact that you have him as a winger, Gabe Vilardi is/was a much better prospect than Kirby Dach. So potential wise, Vilardi is still at the top
 
Mats26 said:
I see Kupari\Vilardi* as future wingers. I just get this feeling we are drafting Kirby Dach. Big, skilled with 1C potential. There is no one in the farm system that even comes close to his potential.
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Vilardi's potential is about equal to if not better than Dach. Both prospects are about even in terms of what they'd achieved up to their draft years, but Vilardi's accomplishments were more impressive because of his age.

It really just depends on what Dach does next season, but it'd be very impressive impressive for him to match Vilardi's 17/18 season.

Now if we're factoring in injuries, Dach is clearly the better prospect.
 
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Mats26 said:
I see Kupari\Vilardi* as future wingers. I just get this feeling we are drafting Kirby Dach. Big, skilled with 1C potential. There is no one in the farm system that even comes close to his potential.
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I'm impressed you still see a future with Vilardi.
 
It's only Craig Button, but he did an interview on Vancouver radio and alluded to Cole Caufield being bumped into his top 5 whenever his next list is released.
 
KINGS17 said:
If you look at the depth and number of NHL players who enjoyed long successful careers, people were definitely right about the 2003 draft.
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The Boyle (26th) and Tambellini (27th) picks right after eachother were two pretty big swing and misses.

But hey, Joe Pavelski was a 7th rounder and Dustin Byfuglien was a 8th rounder, so that's how the draft cookie crumbles.
 
savemefromtears said:
The Boyle (26th) and Tambellini (27th) picks right after eachother were two pretty big swing and misses.

But hey, Joe Pavelski was a 7th rounder and Dustin Byfuglien was a 8th rounder, so that's how the draft cookie crumbles.
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Yeah, I wasn't thinking specifically about the Kings 2003 draft. I was looking at these players taken in the 1st round:

MA Fleury, Eric Staal, Thomas Vanek, Ryan Suter, Dion Phaneuf, Jeff Carter, Dustin Brown, Brent Seabrook, Zack Parise, Ryan Getzlaf, Brent Burns, Ryan Kesler, Mike Richards, Bryan Boyle, Corey Perry, and Patrick Eaves

That's quite a long list of players taken in the 1st round of the 2003 NHL draft who have had significant careers in the NHL. Not many draft years have had that many successful players taken in the first round.
 
savemefromtears said:
The Boyle (26th) and Tambellini (27th) picks right after eachother were two pretty big swing and misses.

But hey, Joe Pavelski was a 7th rounder and Dustin Byfuglien was a 8th rounder, so that's how the draft cookie crumbles.
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same goes for Mr Irrelevant from the 2005 draft.. he turned out to be ok
 
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Yeah, I wasn't thinking specifically about the Kings 2003 draft. I was looking at these players taken in the 1st round:

MA Fleury, Eric Staal, Thomas Vanek, Ryan Suter, Dion Phaneuf, Jeff Carter, Dustin Brown, Brent Seabrook, Zack Parise, Ryan Getzlaf, Brent Burns, Ryan Kesler, Mike Richards, Bryan Boyle, Corey Perry, and Patrick Eaves
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I understood that, but having 2 picks back to back in quite significant; it's even more magnified that both picks were not good ones.

KINGS17 said:
That's quite a long list of players taken in the 1st round of the 2003 NHL draft who have had significant careers in the NHL. Not many draft years have had that many successful players taken in the first round.
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It even extends into the 2nd round as well.
 
johnjm22 said:
Vilardi's potential is about equal to if not better than Dach. Both prospects are about even in terms of what they'd achieved up to their draft years, but Vilardi's accomplishments were more impressive because of his age.

It really just depends on what Dach does next season, but it'd be very impressive impressive for him to match Vilardi's 17/18 season.

Now if we're factoring in injuries, Dach is clearly the better prospect.
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Just trying to be realistic and factor those injuries in.
 
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