2018 NHL Draft Prospects

kunekune

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Oh please, your saying that a 9 year old kid can be a rock star in Finland if he's better than his peers in hockey? :laugh:

If a few people knew about him when he was 9 that does not by any standards make him a future super star. There are plenty of peewees out there who are showing superiority by being physically more mature compared to their average age class. It really means nothing at all at that age. Can you point me one article about Laine that's been published country wide while he was in the age range of 9-11? I also live in the same city as Laine and know a guy that publishes articles in "Jatkoaika" (a Finnish hockey magazine). I can assure you that neither he nor his colleagues knew this kid was going to be drafted in top 3 at 2016 draft class years back from today. In general sense, making comments about kids being superhyped in their pre-teen years is ludicrous.

I'm also from the same city and I have played several years in same team as Barkov. I'm a year older than Sasha and 4 years older than Pate.

Everyone knows its basicly impossible to predict anyone of age 9-11 to be a superstar. Not even Ovie or Crosby was certain superstar at that age but LAINE is the most hyped Finnish player of that age ever in Finland. Partly because of his skills and partly because of his mother. BTW. Its very strange that noone here has talked about his mom and what issues it brought to young Patrick's life.

One video about young Patrick hype.
http://liiga.fi/videot/2016/01/14/ville-nieminen-kuulin-patrik-laineesta-ensimmaisen-kerran-2007

Like I said its basicly impossible to know whether young player can morph into a superstar but Patrick was better and more hyped junior player than Barkov, Grandlund, Rantanen, Pulju, tervainen etc. Andost of those guys turned OK.
 

izzy

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Doubt it will end up beating 2015. Insane top end talent and lots of guys have really great +1 years in Jrs/College and a few even already being impact AHL guy at 18.
 

kunekune

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Laines mother was/is "boarderline" crazy. During games she was partly cheerleadet partly southern european football hooligan.

She had own chants for Patrik like "our Patrik is the best. He scores all the goals eventho he is couple years younger than everyone else". And those chants werent only for patrik or opposition. She would scream and mock even other Tappara players. If there was 2on1 and teammate didnt pass to patrik she would call them gay etc.

So if you think where patrik got that trouble attitude that he had when he was younger it came from his mother.

She was allmost as big of "rockstar" as patrik and people would come to see both him and his mother.

She stopped acting like that when Patrik moved to A-juniors. So either they banned her from games, drugged her or its harder to pick her out from stands when patrik is playing in bigger ice halls.
 

Pizza the Hutt

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I was looking at the top prospects for the 2018 draft and its pretty amazing to see how deep this draft is shaping up to be :

Europe : Andrei Svechnikov, Filip Zadina, Milos Roman, Kirill Nizhnikov
US : Jake Wise, Bode Wilde, Oliver Wahlstrom, Jake Pivonka, TJ Walsh, Jaxon Nelson, Blade Jenkins, Brady Tkachuk
QMJHL : Joe Veleno, Jared McIsaac, Benoit-Olivier Groulx
OHL : Ryan Merkley, David Levin, Aidan Dudas, Allan McShane, Dennis Busby
WHL : Ty Smith, Luka Burzan, Carson Focht

I forgot a lot of talent, but thats a pretty good draft class right there

Given that a player's viability as an NHL is largely determined by the "hockeyness" of their name, it actually looks like a pretty weak field.

But I would definitely keep an eye out for Bode Wilde, Dennis Busby and Jaxon Nelson.
 

Pavel Buchnevich

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I don't know why people can't say the 2018 draft is shaping up to be good. Its not like everyone says that every draft is good. Most people think that 2017 is a bad draft, and 2014 isn't regarded as a good draft either.
 

jdatb

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Pulj and Laine have definitely been hyped up for at least 3-4 years now. I recall reading about them back in 12/13.
 

kelsier

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I'm also from the same city and I have played several years in same team as Barkov. I'm a year older than Sasha and 4 years older than Pate.

Everyone knows its basicly impossible to predict anyone of age 9-11 to be a superstar. Not even Ovie or Crosby was certain superstar at that age but LAINE is the most hyped Finnish player of that age ever in Finland. Partly because of his skills and partly because of his mother. BTW. Its very strange that noone here has talked about his mom and what issues it brought to young Patrick's life.

One video about young Patrick hype.
http://liiga.fi/videot/2016/01/14/ville-nieminen-kuulin-patrik-laineesta-ensimmaisen-kerran-2007

Like I said its basicly impossible to know whether young player can morph into a superstar but Patrick was better and more hyped junior player than Barkov, Grandlund, Rantanen, Pulju, tervainen etc. Andost of those guys turned OK.

You are mixing up nation wide exposure to what's happening in the local hockey circles and ice rinks. Most of the Finnish hockey viewers didn't have a clue who Laine was until he was 14 to 15. And no, he wasn't the most hyped junior player ever no matter what the points may indicate. Puljujärvi was ahead of him in that department (and generally being higher ranked in most early 2016 draft lists I used to keep an eye on) while I pretty much always considered Laine with the one with the highest ceiling, still do in fact. That interview doesn't support the argument which was previously discussed. Nieminen was part of Tappara so he naturally was far more aware of what's happening inside the organization than a common viewer. This on the other hand, has little to none to do with the rest of the Finnish hockey culture.

That aside, no point derailing the thread any further.
 

VictorLustig

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Watched a bit of the SWE U16 national team recently. Rasmus Dahlin looked terrific, clearly ahead of his peers at this point.

Things can change so quickly though. Alex Nylander who will likely go top 10 in this draft wasn't even invited to the U16 camp.
 

tony d

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Bit to early to be ranking these players. Maybe this time next year we'll know more of what their rankings should be.
 

Plastic Joseph

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Has MEP's stock fallen a bit? I remember people suggesting he could be the first overall pick a couple years ago.

According to some posters on here he is clearly a notch below some of the top guys like Wilde, Wise, Veleno, etc. Still an elite player for his age group though.
 

North Country

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I've seen him play and I think he's over-hyped. My guess (and I usually don't make predictions like this) is that he's a middle-of-the-road D1 prospect. He won't be a first round draft pick, but if he can keep the hype train going, he could be a mid-rounder.

K'Andre Miller made some of the all state teams as a sophomore and just got a invite to the NTDP eval camp. Some even have him ahead of Brinkman.


It's all a hype train?
 

HasbeenHallzy

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Jett Woo deserves some love too.. Already 5 WHL games and over a PPG in Winnipeg AA Midget. 6'ft 200lb 15 year old.... And that name!
 

nanzenkills

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Has MEP's stock fallen a bit? I remember people suggesting he could be the first overall pick a couple years ago.

I don't think it's fallen, I just think there were a lot fewer known names among hockey fans back then for that draft. Because I'm pretty sure it was fans and not scouts suggesting that he could go #1 back then. I've never heard any scout say that he is that level of prospect.
 

thething

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Anyone who closely followed the draft would know 2013 doesn't belong and shouldn't be in that group nor was it as hyped as the other 3.

The other 3 are definitely looking like elite drafts that deserve all their hype.

The 2013 draft was very hyped, perhaps it was because of the poor drafts of 2011 and 2012 drafts that proceeded it, but there was a lot of talk about it being at the level of 2003.

Also while the 2015 draft has a lot of strong talent, it's more of a top heavy draft imo. Depth wise its very average, I would say it's weaker than the 2014 draft (which is a very underrated draft class) in that regard.
 
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The 2013 draft was very hyped, perhaps it was because of the poor drafts of 2011 and 2012 drafts that proceeded it, but there was a lot of talk about it being at the level of 2003.

Also while the 2015 draft has a lot of strong talent, it's more of a top heavy draft imo. Depth wise its very average, I would say it's weaker than the 2014 draft (which is a very underrated draft class) in that regard.

Ya 2013 was considered the best draft since 2003 BUT I say every year the at the beginning of the year (or the years leading up) it is always considered a deep draft, then during the year it shifts to ok/whatever, then right before the draft it is considered the best since _____, then immediately after it is considered bad/average. Obviously we get the real result years after.
 

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